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[Trickshavv]

If they're surrounded, they stay dead.

No sense losing two players because one player has the situational awareness of Chris Farley.

[SinerAthin]

That depends, really.


On my Infiltrator, I'll revive them almost all the time as I can just sneak past the mobs then get the hell away.

But on my other classes... only if I can get away with it or I can ress 2 players before getting downed myself.


When ressing people, there are two main factors that come into play:

1. If I can ress the person without getting killed myself, then I'll do it.
2. If I get knocked unconscious, it is still worth it if I can revive 2 or even 3 of my teammates.

Modifié par SinerAthin, 27 mars 2012 - 03:48 .

[HowlingSiren]

I was killed by Swarmers once on Silver, just as a new objective was starting. That's right, Swarmers. No other enemies around. I was revived but should have stayed dead. That embarrassing a death deserves no rez.

[Pyrceval78]

It depends. I usually will try to save everyone if I can get to them.

Last night though had the case of letting a guy die intentionally as he was bieng an **** over the mic saying how awesome he was and he didn't need the rest of us and he was getting all the kills (Salarian engineer with a widow of course).

He died. Several times. I never revived him. I was the lone person (Asari Adept) to complete a wave with the rest dead, and we even only got a partial extraction at the end because I lured the nasties away and doubled back to the extraction zone, me and one of the others are the only two that made it.

So yeah, if you aren't an **** I will try everything I can to revive you. Been in a number of situations where we just traded revives because we coudn't survive the group otherwise.

[Serkevan]

I almost always play with 3 friends, so we have a plan if one of us dies alone. If I'm not dead (engineer most of the times), I place my drone and start spamming chain overloads, while another one provides more covering fire and the third one gets the fallen comrade. That is, unless it is totally impossible to make it to him (read: 3 banshees/phantoms that spawned out of nowhere, turret-killingfield, etc.) When playing with randoms, it is a matter of judgement. If it is the I AM KROGAN kind of guy, okay. Bleed out and learn not to headbutt a full shield Atlas. If it is a novaguard charging the first thing that moves (which happened to be 3 primes, for example), admire the floor while we clean the wave. Any circumstances where being a moron was not the cause of dead and there is the slightest chance of making it out, balls to the walls with the guy.

[maxulic]

Lonewolfe2015 wrote...

At what point (and what class) do you feel confident in letting them die and/or use a medi-gel (if it's random people you may not know what they have in stock) and run off rather than charge in to save them?

I don't think there is some guide with every action to take according on the situation. It really depends on what's going on and if this is worth the risk.

By default I will always go this route:

and do my best either by rezzing or offering suppression fire to take some heat off your back. But when the cost is too high, if you died in front of a turret with a couple of phantoms wandering around you will have to wait for the place to be clean, I think that people now understood that you are not protected by a magical shield because you are rezzing someone.

There is also a time when priorities come first, if the timer is telling that there is little time to activate the last couple of objectives, I won't think twice about going:

Which can be pretty hard when you are actually leaving to die someone who just rezzed you a few times earlier.

[Johnny B. Goode]

depends, i only revive people if i think i can revive them without going down, i will always try my best to revive people, so even if i gone down after reviving you, it is your job to finish the wave now, not me

[Trix-Rabbit]

if they are standing next to you and you are not overrun, i revive otherwise you dead. And if you die nonstop then yearh, you gonna stay dead too.

[Cipher_73]

Lonewolfe2015 wrote...

Something I've come into a lot on Gold now that I've finally reached a point I can handle them well both with friends leveling up and my own equipment at level 10...

There usually comes once a game a point where your group got stuck somehow, someone got downed and then all of a sudden you get the cascading deaths as people try to revive the fallen comrade.

At what point (and what class) do you feel confident in letting them die and/or use a medi-gel (if it's random people you may not know what they have in stock) and run off rather than charge in to save them?

I tend to run Infiltrator a lot on Gold, I love using my Mantis 10 with Damage Mod 5 + Cloaked Headshot and I've let people die and took the long road of guerrilla warfare to finish off a round by myself. But I've also gone balls to the wall and thrown grenades, shot missiles and used sabotage combined with cloaking to try and revive groups of fallen comrades.

Leaving a comrade to die in dire situations is never an easy thing to do in a coop mission. But both my friends and I have come to a much greater understanding that sometimes its best to leave them behind and complete the mission objective. It doesn't help if everyone dies and you lose the match. But if you can accomplish your mission objective and then wipe the enemy out, you revive your fallen comrade. Thus saving the day and not adding to the loss. Its a tough call, but If you're seriously surrounded and have no rockets in inventory, get the hell out and run. If there's an objective to complete, pay attention to the time limit and what needs to be done. Take out targets one at a time and don't get surrounded. Trust me, your teammates will congratulate you.

[Youmu]

Ridiculously situational, really.

Can I kill the enemies in the proximity, so I can safely revive (and get to the nearest cover)? If no, sorry, I'm out of here.

I had a game earlier where I (foolishly) rushed towards the objective, and didn't notice the bunch of Cannibals/Marauders hiding behind large crates, so I got cut down. Few seconds later, another teammate comes to revive me. And dies pretty much instantly. And then in runs third teammate, and gets shot in the same manner.

Wish there was a suicide button so you could avoid people from even trying

[Cipher_73]

Youmu wrote...

Ridiculously situational, really.

Can I kill the enemies in the proximity, so I can safely revive (and get to the nearest cover)? If no, sorry, I'm out of here.

I had a game earlier where I (foolishly) rushed towards the objective, and didn't notice the bunch of Cannibals/Marauders hiding behind large crates, so I got cut down. Few seconds later, another teammate comes to revive me. And dies pretty much instantly. And then in runs third teammate, and gets shot in the same manner.

Wish there was a suicide button so you could avoid people from even trying

Best answer for that is comms. Use it if you've got it. If you don't then. buy one if you can afford it. It's great to have comms. I use it sometimes with randoms and sometimes they can hear me. It helps.

[PrimeMN]

Cipher_73 wrote...

Best answer for that is comms. Use it if you've got it. If you don't then. buy one if you can afford it. It's great to have comms. I use it sometimes with randoms and sometimes they can hear me. It helps.

This.

My worst death, on Silver, I accidently got myself caught by a Brute trying to be sneaky running to get an objective. I wasn't at the objective, and when I died. as I lay bleeding out all I could see was the Brute stomping back and forth over and over on me.

Thankfully, we all had mics so when I heard a teammate say 'I'm coming, hold on' I was able to tell them not to bother, I was meat. They finished the level.

So the moral of the story is. Get a mic.

[AriaDoUrden]

We came here together, we are going home together. Or we will die here, one person lying on another, with a three brutes standing on our dead bodies :X

[Jigsaw Complex]

I will go out of my way to save somebody. It's a team game and the enemies don't care if you're down a player or three. They spawn all the same.

I make a split second flight or fight decision. Are you being lorded over by big nasties? Are you in the middle of nowhere away from the team?

If I can, i'll save you because that's what i would want somebody to do for me, but i'm not going to risk the team being down two instead of 1.

Just depends.

[Sussurus]

I'll try, but even cloak does not give certain safety.
I fail often though with holding off.
Being cornered in a tiny dead end with a Brute blocking and killing multiple times even when cloaked, just because you revived someone once again is bad.

Modifié par Sussurus, 27 mars 2012 - 05:50 .

[Jovian09]

If Grunt charges out of the biotic field in the Collector base, he doesn't get revived.

[fafnir magnus]

If you're rocking infiltrator you should be able to get a cloaked revive. If its a late wave and they have /everything/ on top of them you should be using a cobra missile for time's sake.

[shrimprahmen]

it depends. i play infiltrator alot in MP. if i see a cascade of people going down one right after another usually means an atlus got them dont see that much with banshees or brutes unless the people im playing with are just being retarted. i tend to finish a round solo. if there are nodes to catch i will still solo. if its a hack point that we have to hold i will do my best to revive people. as a soldier or any other class i will usually rush into a group after tossing a grenade or somthing to clear a path to get to a downed comrade.

[Avissel]

gotta weigh your chances.

I had to let the my team, and the guy who picked me back up, die on wave 10 of a silver game in order to get away. But I finished the round alone and my team went on to full extraction.

[RazRei]

If three people are down I usually try to remember or you should have a mic on GOLD who's going to die soon. I make a run around with the enemies following me the long way and come back revive one after another.

[vladgd]

it depends on the situation. if i know for sure i am going to die if i try, i wont revive.

one dead player > two dead players

[Mandalore313]

Rule of the thumb :

If you can save your squadmate without getting hit or at the very worst case lose your shields do it.
If he's inside or nearby an objective, do it.

Otherwise no.

/Ruthless calculus.

Modifié par Mandalore313, 27 mars 2012 - 08:52 .