I have explicitly rejected the terms and conditions several times when I log into dragon age. But each time it simply reprompts me to "accept" the terms.
I logged back into my account online for the sole purpose of posting this question.
Anyone else reject the terms? How can I continue to play the game under the original terms that I purchased the game? I'm not a huge fan of EULAs, but I'm not a fan of EULAs that change. I'm considering trying to return the game unless someone can explain how to stop being prompted by the new terms and allow me to reject them.
Rejecting new terms and conditions
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mmmbeerz
, déc. 02 2009 12:41
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#2
Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:44
Valkeyr
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Does this apply for when you're trying to load your game offline? You don't need to be online for dragon age except for the achievements after all.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:46
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I have no idea. I seem to be caught in an endless loop. I'll try to click buttons fast enough to not log me in.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:48
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hmmm...disconnect your cable modem? then try it. Once you're offline, you can adjust the options to not log you on automatically.
Anyway, anything specific in the new EULA you didn't like or you just don't like the fact it changed from the original?
Anyway, anything specific in the new EULA you didn't like or you just don't like the fact it changed from the original?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:50
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Click accept and it will go away forever.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:51
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You only have to accept the EULA if you log in.
Don't log in.
Don't log in.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:52
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What's in the new EULA that is so bothersome? And it wasn't in the old EULA? Please explain your position.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:53
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Where's the problem in accepting? What harm will it cause you? Don't want to sound harsh here, just curious ...
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:56
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What changes in the EULA do you not accept?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:57
Sloth Of Doom
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Well, there is that one line about EA claiming your immortal soul for all of eternity or something like that.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 12:58
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Disconnecting and stopping the log in process worked.
Well, its frankly nearly impossible to tell if I don't like something new. The new terms run for pages that aren't printable, offer no comparison between the original and the new terms, etc. The update says that they are the Terms of Service, but I think they mean just the "Privacy Policy" (see "updated" on this site).
Well, its frankly nearly impossible to tell if I don't like something new. The new terms run for pages that aren't printable, offer no comparison between the original and the new terms, etc. The update says that they are the Terms of Service, but I think they mean just the "Privacy Policy" (see "updated" on this site).
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 01:01
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Who actually spends the time to read those things in the first place?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 01:02
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People who are afraid there might be an "EA gets your firstborn" clause snuck in.Shannara13 wrote...
Who actually spends the time to read those things in the first place?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 01:03
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mmmbeerz wrote...
Well, its frankly nearly impossible to tell if I don't like something new. The new terms run for pages that aren't printable, offer no comparison between the original and the new terms, etc. The update says that they are the Terms of Service, but I think they mean just the "Privacy Policy" (see "updated" on this site).
They see me trollin'.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 01:08
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chances are its the same terms of service really, which is kind of funny. if they update the game or make any new changes they have to make you accept the terms of service again in most cases. thats so anything new or changed still falls under the terms of service you originally accepted and isnt outside the scope of it.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 03:14
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I don't tend to be in the habit of accepting unilateral changes to contracts. I'm also the guy that calls my credit card company to reject changes to terms too.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 03:19
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I did that once. Fortunately, I still had half a year on my lease, so I was able to find a new place to live.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 03:20
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Probably smart, but I doubt a canuck videogame company will attempt to screw you like credit companies do. Notice the word "doubt".
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 03:23
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EULAs are pretty non-binding, kind of like those "swim at your own risk" signs and waivers that schools have parents sign for their kids going on field trips.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 03:32
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This.MerinTB wrote...
EULAs are pretty non-binding, kind of like those "swim at your own risk" signs and waivers that schools have parents sign for their kids going on field trips.
it is always good to at least skim them. but overall most EULAs basically say "This is our game, you can play it but you can't steal it or steal parts of it. if it breaks your computer it isnt our fault. We have the right to change our game without consulting you."
That being said, i agree with the OP that having a new EULA that yu can't print to compare the old one is a little fishy. What exactly have they changed in less than a month that needs an entirely new agreement?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 03:38
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Sloth Of Doom wrote...
This.MerinTB wrote...
EULAs are pretty non-binding, kind of like those "swim at your own risk" signs and waivers that schools have parents sign for their kids going on field trips.
it is always good to at least skim them. but overall most EULAs basically say "This is our game, you can play it but you can't steal it or steal parts of it. if it breaks your computer it isnt our fault. We have the right to change our game without consulting you."
That being said, i agree with the OP that having a new EULA that yu can't print to compare the old one is a little fishy. What exactly have they changed in less than a month that needs an entirely new agreement?
Why do you wish to read the entire EULA anyway? It doesn't really force you into anything.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 03:51
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DaeFaron wrote...
Sloth Of Doom wrote...
This.MerinTB wrote...
EULAs are pretty non-binding, kind of like those "swim at your own risk" signs and waivers that schools have parents sign for their kids going on field trips.
it is always good to at least skim them. but overall most EULAs basically say "This is our game, you can play it but you can't steal it or steal parts of it. if it breaks your computer it isnt our fault. We have the right to change our game without consulting you."
That being said, i agree with the OP that having a new EULA that yu can't print to compare the old one is a little fishy. What exactly have they changed in less than a month that needs an entirely new agreement?
Why do you wish to read the entire EULA anyway? It doesn't really force you into anything.
If you didn't read it then how do you know that?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 04:00
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Because how many EULA's vary between game? I know that buying and installing (or playing on console) a video game is not going to legally bind me into some big contract that can ruin my life. I don't even build mods myself besides in Neverwinter Nights with the toolset, nor do I rip or steal things from games that would put me in violation.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 04:20
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*shrug* I only read a few EULAs/ToS, but normally only from online retail sites. For games, it seems that every time it is updated, patched, etc. you need to accept a new ToS/EULA for the most current updated game. I think the ToS/EULA are only valid through the version of the game that you originally accepted, if it is updated... it is no longer valid and you need to reaccept the ToS/EULA for the updated version.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 05:20
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Even if you violate the EULA there's nothing they can do about it except deny you service.
And even if they could there is nothing they could do to find out about it, or pay to have you prosecuted--which they can't.
The EULA is pretty much there so you can't screw them over and to legally clarify ownership of their intellectual property.
And even if they could there is nothing they could do to find out about it, or pay to have you prosecuted--which they can't.
The EULA is pretty much there so you can't screw them over and to legally clarify ownership of their intellectual property.
