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[lillitheris]

Instantly reminded of this. Worth the watch, if you don't know Mitchell and Webb…

Modifié par lillitheris, 27 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[Blindspy]

If this is true, and I'm not saying I'm 100% convinced yet, it would be the most brilliant thing in game writing history.  Not only was Bioware intoxicating your main character, but my first overwhelming urge after completing the game was to get intoxicated IRL.  Bioware's intoxication theme was so subtle, powerful, and subliminal that it influenced their players to go along with the intoxication.

[Jaze55]

Wow. Just wow. This is just...... RIGHT!

How could I have missed this? Clever clever Bioware.

This just makes so much sense! I mean you have clear and indisputable proof. If you look at all the clues in the game there is no way you can deny this.

I am a believer. Thank you OP for opening my eye's to the Majesty that is Bioware. I eagerly await the Hangover DLC.

Thank you OP now I think I can cope finally. You saved my sanity OP thank you THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[wheelierdan]

Blindspy wrote...

If this is true, and I'm not saying I'm 100% convinced yet, it would be the most brilliant thing in game writing history.  Not only was Bioware intoxicating your main character, but my first overwhelming urge after completing the game was to get intoxicated IRL.  Bioware's intoxication theme was so subtle, powerful, and subliminal that it influenced their players to go along with the intoxication.

**** the kinect right, now this is immersion!

[GBGriffin]

I actually want to drink my way through the entire trilogy to see if I can pick up on any more facts...though, really, do we even need any more evidence at this point?

The theory is sound enough already, but people still don't seem to accept it for some reason.

[Jaze55]

GBGriffin wrote...

I actually want to drink my way through the entire trilogy to see if I can pick up on any more facts...though, really, do we even need any more evidence at this point?

The theory is sound enough already, but people still don't seem to accept it for some reason.

What do you mean more evidence? Didn't you see the circles he drew around that stuff that was in the game near that other stuff? And didn't you notice all the FACTS?!?! 

That was enough for me. It is clearly correct and I believe it. Bioware are geniuses and if anyone can't see that I think those people just need a drink. 

[Nefelius]

Did you guys see the episode in How I Met Your Mother when they struggled to realize something, even made some research on the issue and eventually combined letters of the sentences in "GET DRUNK"?
That's how you understand ME3.
Get Drunk.

Modifié par Nefelius, 27 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[nomoredruggs]

This is not a theory! It's FACT!

[GBGriffin]

I posted this in a different thread, but because we can always do with more facts:

Look at Dr. Kenson's eyes in ME2: Arrival. They're yellow, right? When Shep "gets indoctrinated" (gets really wasted next to Object Rho), he/she sees Dr. Kenson with yellow eyes.

You know what can cause yellow eyes? Jaundice.

Do you know what jaundice is a symptom of? Alcoholic liver disease.

That is wayyyyyyyyyy more than a coincidence.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 27 mars 2012 - 04:59 .

[Burnham1]

The best part of this entire thing is that I have a friend who hates Mass Effect simply because of the beginning of the first game.

He complains about having to go back and forth between Flux and Chora's Den all the time. He says in a very humorous way, "All you do in that stupid game is go to the space bar! I went to the space bar to talk to a guy and he sent me to the other space bar! All I do is get drunk at space bars!"

It seems he picked up on this intoxication theory at the very beginning of Mass Effect 1. I'll let him know he was right all along.

[GBGriffin]

Burnham1 wrote...

The best part of this entire thing is that I have a friend who hates Mass Effect simply because of the beginning of the first game.

He complains about having to go back and forth between Flux and Chora's Den all the time. He says in a very humorous way, "All you do in that stupid game is go to the space bar! I went to the space bar to talk to a guy and he sent me to the other space bar! All I do is get drunk at space bars!"

It seems he picked up on this intoxication theory at the very beginning of Mass Effect 1. I'll let him know he was right all along.

Honestly, that's awesome. I feel so stupid that all this evidence was in front of me for three games and I totally missed it.

Well done, BioWare.

[Jaze55]

 Here is more proof.

The endings are CLEARLY trying to show you Shepards goal all along. 

Destroy - Shepard gives into his alcoholism and destroys his liver. (that's why we see him wake up, the pain knocks him out of his stupor)

Control - you can clearly see the 2 rods for him to hold onto. That's because he hasn't had a drink since getting hit by the beam so he has the shakes. He obviously needs those bars to hold onto to keep him steady while waiting for the Hangover DLC to come out.

Synthesis- I mean isn't this obvious? It only took me a minute to find this. He is clearly trying to get this drink made -

Konarita(http://www.konaclub.net/specialties) A synthesis of tequila, triple sec, fresh lime and other juices, served in a pilsner glass and rimmed with our sweet and salty plum-flavored Li Hing powder

It's so clear now how could I have been so blind.

Bioware=Writing Geniuses. 

Modifié par MassEffected555, 27 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[Burnham1]

GBGriffin wrote...

Honestly, that's awesome. I feel so stupid that all this evidence was in front of me for three games and I totally missed it.

Well done, BioWare.

Mass Effect 2 starts out the same way. The very first thing you do is go to the space bar on Omega. This game is just going from one big space bar to the other, while drinking at your space bar on your space ship.

Modifié par Burnham1, 27 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[wheelierdan]

you know, i thought i was alone in all this. even my cat stopped listening to me, but well, its just really nice to find a group of people that get it.

hold the wine!

[Falconee]

Thank you OP.

This is just great! =D

HOLD THE WINE!

Modifié par Falconee, 27 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[Falconee]

Now it came to me.

See my Sig?
This is what Garrus and Shepard are talking about at the VERY END.

Another hint for the Intoxication Theory...ah bah theory; its FACT.
The Indoc.-Theory can go home.

Hold the wine!

Modifié par Falconee, 27 mars 2012 - 05:21 .

[LilyasAvalon]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Kai Leng is actually the Tiger you find in your bathroom

Is Star Child the Baby then?

[GBGriffin]

wheelierdan wrote...

you know, i thought i was alone in all this. even my cat stopped listening to me, but well, its just really nice to find a group of people that get it.

hold the wine!

Well, I knew I was probably hard to deal with when I reached the height of my drunken rage post-ME3, but now that I see BioWare planned for that to happen, for me to share in Shepard's drunken fable, I'm just blown away at how successful they were at drawing me into the experience.

I can't believe I thought it could be anything other than this now...bad writing, indoctrination, it all falls short in the face of this theory!

[wheelierdan]

Falconee wrote...

Now it came to me.

See my Sig?
This is what Garrus and Shepard are talking about at the VERY END.

Another hint for the Intoxication Theory...ah bah theory; its FACT.
The Indoc.-Theory can go home.

Hold the wine!

can you help me get the detials was garrus saying that to shepard or vice versa

[ShepardTheHopeful]

wheelierdan wrote...

only bioware has the artistic integrity to make an entire game a drunken hallucination.


game design document showing a martini glass. proof.

  an extended bender scene, why is it green, how does this scene tie into the ending?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQpCSgN-lU ashely drunken proof
(is asheley real or just a part of shepards mind making sense of this new reality?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjymkPW1XNs&feature=related  more proof that shepard is in fact drunk, but aria's role in this has not yet been discovered, maybe you have to beat insanity without drinking any booze?


Think about it guys, just how many times in the game has alcohol been present.  Off the top of my head I can think of the two bars on omega. the ships bar. drinking with the doctor. Tali getting drunk, Ashely getting drunk, implicating james vega was involved.  On the upper part of the citadel, you shoot... bottles!   Why are they shooting bottles instea dof drinking them, is garrus your sponsor? top of citadel = moral high ground.

What does all this mean?  What is bioware trying to say?!

It is my firm belief that mass effect 3 never happened. You see, theres a scene in the omega bar where a man gives you concotion and you awaken in an alley of vorcha.  now bioware made sure the vorcha talked about how they wanted to eat some fresh meat. why? why would they give us this clue.  They wouldnt, unless it meant something!


you always see mordin behind a counter, everytime you see him, a
counter? or a bar. because he is a bartender. he mixes shepard's drinks.
why? because someone else mgiht have gotten it wrong.

Why so many references to booze? what does it all mean?

I submit to you that the entirety of events that follow that moment are nothing more than the boozed fueled hallucinations of commander shepard.  if any of that happened the vorcha would have eaten shepard while he was passed out, obviously.  therefore it didn't.

I anxiously await the hangover dlc, so we can finally get these questions answered!

First of all this is NOT INDOCTRINATION THEORY. indoctrination theory is nothing but a bunch of people taking a
theme of the game and applying facts completely out of context to support a very unlikely idea.  We don't do that
here only facts!

edit:

why are there no fat people? beer googles.

why is it called a reputation BAR?

why are everyones eyes so glassy? because they are drunk.


crucible, galatic super weapon or alarm clock?

notice the colors of the booze in normandy's bar, red and blue. this clearly symbolizes shepards morality being affected by booze as the story continues.

Why do we never see tali's alleged straw, why would they leave out showing us the straw unless it was a clue that it wasnt real?  think about it.

red sand is a brand of alcohol that gets mentioned through out the games.

that volus guy, niftu cal, that guy was druuunk.

The Illusive Man smokes cigarettes, people often smoke cigarettes in... bars. bars where they drink... alcohol. it all makes sense.

Marauder Shields was a bouncer, trying to tell you that you've had enough. or was he part of shepards addiction not letting him leave (wake up)  you decide!

what about husks, cybernetic creatures or drunken patrons running away from something (what bioware tell us!) which makes more sense?! are they alcoholics trying to take your booze? Do they simply want to dance?



Hold the wine!

Because otherwise we'd have to accept that all those events actually happened, and that's enough to drive a man to drink.


Please share any clues i might have missed so we can piece this epic mystery together!

^this...this is full of so much damn win I can't even talk about it anymore now if we can only just convince the indoctrination theorists of this truth we'd be all set. 

Mass Effect 3 DLC. The turian brandy. Triple distilled of course. 

[Jaze55]

GBGriffin wrote...

wheelierdan wrote...

you know, i thought i was alone in all this. even my cat stopped listening to me, but well, its just really nice to find a group of people that get it.

hold the wine!

Well, I knew I was probably hard to deal with when I reached the height of my drunken rage post-ME3, but now that I see BioWare planned for that to happen, for me to share in Shepard's drunken fable, I'm just blown away at how successful they were at drawing me into the experience.

I can't believe I thought it could be anything other than this now...bad writing, indoctrination, it all falls short in the face of this theory!

Me and you both. How could we have been so blind? 

Once again OP thank  you for opening everyones eyes to the truth.

[Falconee]

wheelierdan wrote...

Falconee wrote...

Now it came to me.

See my Sig?
This is what Garrus and Shepard are talking about at the VERY END.

Another hint for the Intoxication Theory...ah bah theory; its FACT.
The Indoc.-Theory can go home.

Hold the wine!

can you help me get the detials was garrus saying that to shepard or vice versa

Well, my Sig is what Shepard said.

But Garrus goes with "meet me at the bar" before.

So they both give strong evidence for intoxication.

[WilliamDracul88]

It... it everything makes sense now!

[wheelierdan]

Falconee wrote...

wheelierdan wrote...

Falconee wrote...

Now it came to me.

See my Sig?
This is what Garrus and Shepard are talking about at the VERY END.

Another hint for the Intoxication Theory...ah bah theory; its FACT.
The Indoc.-Theory can go home.

Hold the wine!

can you help me get the detials was garrus saying that to shepard or vice versa

Well, my Sig is what Shepard said.

But Garrus goes with "meet me at the bar" before.

So they both give strong evidence for intoxication.

youre absolutely right. garrus says it, meet me at the bar" meaning hey im your sponsor dont do anything stupid, and when shepard says it, it is further proof. 

fact confirmed. i just need to get the wuotes right,