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[xsdob]

Before the 19th last week, people were here complaining that the endings didn't make sense and went against cannon and choices didn't affect them yadda yadda yadda. After the 19th however, the forums narrative shifted, it went from making the endings better through DLC to wanting the entire endings gutted and started from scratch, a large extremem than the former.

Now I'm seeing forum post creep up around here about how the endings weren't the only thing wrong with the game, but that everything about mass effect 3 was bad. I guess what I'm trying to ask is that, since there really isn't a calaneder or schedule for this type of thing, and I'm not that good at reading trends, does this mean that the new flavor of the week to complain about is that the whole game needs to be changed now, cause it'd be good to get a heads up on this.

[Reptilian Rob]

To be fair, this wasn't even close to the quality ME1 or ME2 was.

A lot of the hate is justified, then again a lot of it isn't.

[xsdob]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

To be fair, this wasn't even close to the quality ME1 or ME2 was.

A lot of the hate is justified, then again a lot of it isn't.

I know, I would just like something to let me know when what I'm complaining about has already become old hat.

[gnaag]

I don't hate the games, just the ending of the trilogy which ruins the others by the reason of what you have done means nothing in the end. Other than the ending it is a fantastic series.

[Kanner]

* The ending is orders of magnitude worse than the rest of the game.

* The ending is potentially salvagable, with enough rage, will, and humility.

Just like how with the planet scanning, the Jacob loyalty mission, and Joker-as-playable-character segment, there was a lot wrong with ME2 as well, but it could be overlooked in favour of the good.

[Calbeb]

I loved everything in Mass Effect 3 except for the ending. The choices made in previous games have WAY more of an impact this time around. The characters have more dialogue. The combat is improved. Some people are just moving to hating the rest of the game because their frustration overall is just growing.

[Chaota Vos]

I haven't seen any demands for the whole thing to be scrapped.

I stand by my opinion that 90% of the game is great, with only the ending and several other factors like the journal bringing it down.

[DJBare]

The initial surge of feedback about the endings drowned out a lot of other criticism, I've got a few myself but since I'm having problems bringing myself to complete another play through, then they are not a priority at this time.

[KaeserZen]

I think the ending hate spilled over some of the content from the main game. Because everyone feels they are running in in circles, people keep building rage and the minds needs to direct it somewhere.

I personnally felt that the main game was flawless. Of course, there are some moments I would have seen differently, but it is nitpicking/head canon compared to commenting on the absolute direction chosen for the endings.

[Admiral H. Cain]

People are just upset, and since they are upset they are looking for anything in the game that they can complain about.

Without a doubt, Mass Effect 3 was an awesome game spoiled by it's ending. (Most) people will eventually realize this if they do another playthrough or at least do some reflection on the better parts of the game.

At least that's my opinion. =P

Using one of the themes from Battlestar Galactica: 

Humans are flawed, therefore anything we do will have flaws. Mass Effect 3 is no different.

Modifié par Admiral H. Cain, 27 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[xsdob]

Here's one I found three post under this one at this time.

http://social.biowar.../index/10671354

While fair points, these types of criticisms tend to take off like a rocket here and soon I see everyone saying the same thing. So I still can't tell yet whether this is just a few peoples opinions or if this will become the new fan consensus.

Modifié par xsdob, 27 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[Megachaz]

I liked the rest of the game before the endings. It had flaws, but it was still good. I think what's happening is that people are burned out talking about the ending, but they're still mad, so they exaggerate the problems that the rest of the game had.

[mrbeermeister]

Kanner wrote...

* The ending is orders of magnitude worse than the rest of the game.

* The ending is potentially salvagable, with enough rage, will, and humility.

Just like how with the planet scanning, the Jacob loyalty mission, and Joker-as-playable-character segment, there was a lot wrong with ME2 as well, but it could be overlooked in favour of the good.

What was wrong with playing as Joker in ME2? I really liked that part.

[MakeMineMako]

A good game, despite a few nitpicks, up until the Star Brat.

[shadey]

well i've done 5 playthroughs now.

I don't hate it but mass effect 3 is the least interesting in the series, just the lack of squadmates, the fact you can only visit the citadel, more auto-dialogue and less choices, your decisions from previous games mean less, just things like that.

[JMJ_91]

There actually ARE a few things I didn't like (not as much havens as in previous games, too many scanning-side missions and not shooting, and the messed up journal), BUT they are heavily outweighed by my disappoitment about the ending

EDIT: Oh, and I really enjoyed the improved fighting mechanics.

Modifié par JMJ_91, 27 mars 2012 - 08:10 .

[dsl08002]

I think that the game is fantasitic with a few problems

Unfortunatly the game gets overshadowed by the bad ending

[askanec]

I recall ME2 had lots of people hating as well. Hating on the planet scanning, hating on the lack-of-RPG-elements, hating on the lack-of-inventory, hating on the lack-of-Mako, hating on the comparatively weaker storyline, hating on the why-did-they-copy-Gears-of-War. There's no end to it.

ME3 could be the best game in the world, and people will still find something to cry about.

[DarkSpiral]

People, when placed in a situation where their passion is left impotent, start looking for other thing sto vent on.

That and some people (or a lot of people) just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something relatively unimportant as if it were the end of the world.

The has been quite a few comments the last few days along the lines of "Bioware didn't do (X, Y, Z), so they dropped the ball! Another missed opportunity!"

Myself, I find those comments to be a waste of time to look over. These people are now complaining about something that didn't get added to the game, rather than about something that ACTUALLY happened in the game, and simply didn't measure up to the quality of the rest of ME3. Which is by far the best game in the series, up until I met the Catalyst.

[VAIOMANIAC]

Well endings aside I think my biggest complaints have to be the horrible questing system where you listen in on conversations god I just hated that.

And you have to fly around scanning planets and if you find what you are looking for it does not tell you where to deliever said item.

Yeah I thought that could have been handled better but fixing that should not be hard with a patch which I think is not unreasonable to ask for.

Modifié par VAIOMANIAC, 27 mars 2012 - 08:18 .

[Icesong]

If I really thought about I could complain about a lot of things in ME3. But I thoroughly enjoyed myself up until the ending and I would again if they fixed it, so I'm just focused on that. This isn't to discourage criticism that others might have as I think that would only help for the next game.

[moater boat]

I moved there a while ago once I did my second playthrough and realized the whole thing is crap.

[Kanner]

VAIOMANIAC wrote...

Well endings aside I think my biggest complaints have to be the horrible questing system where you listen in on conversations god I just hated that.

Indeed.  You're now a giant space wally walking up to people and saying "I couldn't help but overhearding you have a a problem with..."

[eventhewaves]

I think the main body of the game is objectively in the 6.5 to 7.5 range, if you're gonna put a score on it. Unlike the gaming press, I think that's perfectly acceptable for a good game with solid fundamentals but some underdeveloped quirks. The side quests are gutted beyond all sense; the quest journal feels like somebody lost a bet; the Galaxy at War system's a poorly-implemented joke with an unfair force divisor if you're not into multiplayer, and thus it all feels a little bit like punishment for long-time players of the single-player mode; and even a couple of the main story moments feel more limited than they really ought to.

But pretty good all in all. Lots of nice character moments. Sufficiently epic scope. Interesting places to go. Interesting things to destroy. A couple of the most epic Renegade Interrupts in the series to date. For most of the running time, subjective affection for the world and the characters and the previous two games boosts that score reasonably up to the 8 to 9 range, along with the good-faith feeling that you're in good hands and the trilogy's mainly going to stick its landing.

And then the ending rows the entire trilogy out to the middle of a lake and executes it Fredo-style, but that's another matter.

Modifié par eventhewaves, 27 mars 2012 - 08:20 .

[mothbanquet]

I say what I've always said; I loved the game right up until the last 5 minutes. Unfortunately, those 5 minutes were also the most important ones...

More than anything I just find it incredibly ironic that Modern Warfare 3's ending was a million times more satisfying than Mass Effect 3's...