Damn ;((( did the urn of sacred ashes ques. And disedied to to put dragon blood in the urn. Did know that if i did that with Wynne in party she would fight me. So took her out of the party and did the ques. saved some times and then came to party camp. (saved over the before the urn ) and she know about this and left. i have let her learnd 3 magic books and stuff and rely like playing with an healer . But im ****d now ? No way to get her back in party ??? thx thx
Wynne is leaving the party for me after the Urn of sacred ashes
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:05
StupidWiz
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This is considered as a spoiler question..
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:07
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You need a high coercing skill to pass the speech test, if you don't have a high coercing skill, easiest way would be to download a respec mod, pump up the relevant stats/skills before you go back to camp then respec back to your original stats afterwards.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:07
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Nah. You made the choice to not honor (a supposedly) holy relic and defiled it. I do believe she speaks her disapproval of the cult several times before you actually get to the Ashes. So you had plenty of hints, but you pretty much boned yourself of an entertaining companion. :/
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:12
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Should probably be asking this in the spoilers section, because this is a non-spoiler area (or at least edit your title so it doesn't give the spoiler right up front).
As for what to do: give Morrigan healing points and make her your new healer then, you can learn spirit healer buy buying the book from the mage store in Denerim (sp?). Might take a while but it's that... or re-do your game unfortunately or go without a mage healer (just make a ton of lesser health potions and you could probably go without a healer on one of the easier settings).
As for what to do: give Morrigan healing points and make her your new healer then, you can learn spirit healer buy buying the book from the mage store in Denerim (sp?). Might take a while but it's that... or re-do your game unfortunately or go without a mage healer (just make a ton of lesser health potions and you could probably go without a healer on one of the easier settings).
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:12
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heh...Wynne never had an option of joining my party after running into her at the Circle...muahahahahahah....
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:13
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Oh whoops, btw what I wrote above was for Leliana, not sure if Wynn has any speech test dialog, but now that you have unlocked the reaver class you have it for good, so you can reload an older save and go the Champion route if you want.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:17
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I managed to get her mad enough that I had to kill her. I could have reloaded but I figure actions should have consequences. I'll miss the healing but I'm sure I'll manage.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:20
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Zorr Crew wrote...
Nah. You made the choice to not honor (a supposedly) holy relic and defiled it. I do believe she speaks her disapproval of the cult several times before you actually get to the Ashes. So you had plenty of hints, but you pretty much boned yourself of an entertaining companion. :/
Well yeah she does say they're crazy but she herself isn't religious and never says anything that would indicate she cares about the ashes. Hell she never really even tells you not to do it or that you shouldn't do it. Her turning on you really isn't something you can reasonably see coming.
The other nut who flips over this action is all too predictable but NOT Wynne......Wynne just flips for no aparent reason and completely out of nowhere. I was like "yeah so.......you said to be carefull and that the cult was crazy but you never said YOU are crazy and will trip over some ashes".....well couldn't actually say that in the game but I wish I could say that.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:37
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They aren't just some ashes, they are the ashes of the prophet Andraste. The prophet for the majority of people in the Ferelden. So I think she has a good reason to flip out when you defile the ashes.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:43
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Hardin4188 wrote...
They aren't just some ashes, they are the ashes of the prophet Andraste. The prophet for the majority of people in the Ferelden. So I think she has a good reason to flip out when you defile the ashes.
I think Morrigan says it best in the Sacred Ashes trailer "the ashes of a mad woman"......yes that fits best.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:45
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She's not that religious but she is conservative.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 02:46
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Darth_Trethon wrote...
Hardin4188 wrote...
They aren't just some ashes, they are the ashes of the prophet Andraste. The prophet for the majority of people in the Ferelden. So I think she has a good reason to flip out when you defile the ashes.
I think Morrigan says it best in the Sacred Ashes trailer "the ashes of a mad woman"......yes that fits best.
Morrigan (and Rhys Cordelle) approves +10
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 07:27
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Hardin4188 wrote...
They aren't just some ashes, they are the ashes of the prophet Andraste. The prophet for the majority of people in the Ferelden. So I think she has a good reason to flip out when you defile the ashes.
Exactly. It would be like someone spilling goat's blood on the bones of Jesus in a deliberate attempt to defile them and remove any power something like that would be believed to have. I'm an atheist and even I would take something like that badly. In the world of Thedas, where the ashes *demonstratably have magical powers*? I'm pretty sure the only reason *Alistair* doesn't mutiny is because of Plot.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 07:36
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why do ppl want every best thing in 1 game. u must make decisions and stick with it.. makes game alot more fun
i played a power hungy human noble last campaign.. with 1 goal : kill arl howe.. and then settle the blight.
no-one goes unpunished if they opposse or betray me.
and i had a real hunger for power.
so.. alot of possible char. died... but the choices i made in the whole campaign were alot different from my first char and i experienced alot of new cut scenes.. etc.
just accept different play styles.....
i played a power hungy human noble last campaign.. with 1 goal : kill arl howe.. and then settle the blight.
no-one goes unpunished if they opposse or betray me.
and i had a real hunger for power.
so.. alot of possible char. died... but the choices i made in the whole campaign were alot different from my first char and i experienced alot of new cut scenes.. etc.
just accept different play styles.....
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 08:08
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I don't think Wynne can be convinced to stay with you after the defilement. Which makes sense to me: Wynne never really feels that influenced by your character. You don't change her, and she's an old woman- whether you want to call her set in her ways or confident in her beliefs is up to you.
I'm agnostic and I generally get frowny face against religion, but I can most certainly understand the outrage of your companions that follow the Chantry after your actions. It's an incredibly petty thing to do. Wynne, by the way, if you talk to her will explain her past- including that the teachings of the Chantry and a prietess helped her come to terms with who she is. She is a follower of the Chantry- why would you expect her to be cool with defiling her religions' holy artifact that actually has magicish powers?
I'm agnostic and I generally get frowny face against religion, but I can most certainly understand the outrage of your companions that follow the Chantry after your actions. It's an incredibly petty thing to do. Wynne, by the way, if you talk to her will explain her past- including that the teachings of the Chantry and a prietess helped her come to terms with who she is. She is a follower of the Chantry- why would you expect her to be cool with defiling her religions' holy artifact that actually has magicish powers?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 08:16
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Not to mention, you aren't just defiling the urn and making it powerless, you are attempting to transfer the urn's power of a high dragon and its cult of psychos and murderers. Its really a pretty silly thing to do..
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 08:49
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Vormaerin wrote...
Not to mention, you aren't just defiling the urn and making it powerless, you are attempting to transfer the urn's power of a high dragon and its cult of psychos and murderers. Its really a pretty silly thing to do..
Seconded. I DID do it, in fact, but only to unlock the specialization of Reaver. This particular scenario was the one that kind of jumped the shark for me. even siding with a demon in the Redcliffe scenario to learn Blood Magic made more sense to me. I side with the Reavers and I get....er...nothing, basically. No new powers, no stat bumps, no earthly reason to side with a group of demonstratably insane fanattics. Not even some recruits to fight the Blight! They actually say to let the Blight come, and wipe away the unbelievers (read: every other living soul in Fereldan)! Oh yeah. Not even the most evil character I ever made sided with the dragon cult. They needed to die.
....however, several times I had characters that were more than happy to LIE to the cult about defiling the Ashes...and then once I failed to do so, I killed Kolgrim and his two little friends, who were now VERY far away from their fellow cultists.
Then I killed their "god" too. It was a good day.
Anyway, to get back on topic. I never had Wynne flip out on me. Leiliana wasn't in the party the one time I did follow through with it, but when I got back to the camp there was an immediate cutscene and she wanted to know what had happened. It did not take a genius to know what my lovely (and extremely devout) little Andrastian would do if I told her to truth, so I lied. Apparently I did it very, very well, because she mentioned she'd take a pilgrimage after the Blight was ended.
Don't know what happened after that though; I reloaded at that point.
