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[meiwow2]

Gotta love dumb people who act smart

[LTKerr]

The real ending has no logic and can't be real as well.

[Draconis6666]

sartt wrote...

DeathScepter wrote...

Well thinking you have a choice is a major part of being indocrinated. So giving the control option to Shepard while he is thinking he has free will is key.

He had a Choice 3 Choices actually. 1 choice was to control which would not have been possible if he was Indoctrinated as the Illusive man was already there before him and tried and failed. BECAUSE THE ILLUSIVE MAN WAS ALREADY UNDER THE REAPERS CONTROL. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because it has nothing to do with the theory?

If the theory is true then the choice doesnt actualy exist, its a construct of shepards mind,  The choice is possible because it represents giving in to the reapers, the indoctrination theory clearly rely s ont he fact that none of it actualy happens and is all in shepards mind. Your argument is completely rediculous because it ignores every basic logical concept of the theory and claims the issue is false through arguing a statement that has nothing to do with the premises that comprise the theory.

Your argument makes no sense anyway, control is the option the reapers WANT you to pick indoctrinated or not. Even if you assume that its all real, TIM chose control BECAUSE he was indoctrinated, so of course they will give you the option its what they want. Your argument makes no sense at all, the option that should not exist if shepard is indoctrinated is destroy, and even that is only true if he is completely indoctrinated already which is not what the theory even states to begin with,

[sartt]

Bronze65 wrote...

Your face doesn't have any logic.

But yours does?

[I Soya I]

Let's troll about a concept we still haven't grasped!!!

[Reign Tsumiraki]

Bronze65 wrote...

Your face doesn't have any logic.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T

[High Kicks]

We can believe whatever we want. If I want to believe in a theory that elephants high on PCP farted out the Rainbow Road on Mario Kart, than I can.

[Aurvant]

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

Bronze65 wrote...

Your face doesn't have any logic.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T

AWWWW SNAP.

[spz123]

Well I'm sure that well reasoned post changed a lot of peoples minds...

Me, I'm waiting till I hear something solid some time next month before making an ass out of myself on the worldwide web.

[Zardoc]

Well, it certainly doesn't make any less sense than the ending we got at the moment.

[Reign Tsumiraki]

 

[kkndgr]

@OP
You didn't understand the logic behind the indoctrination theory or you didn't read it .So your point is invalid . I don't see why we have to reject it . It is an alternative that can lead to the great finale smoothly.

[Mcfly616]

OP is troll...obviously

[Draconis6666]

The title of the thread is ironic because the OP has no logic either

[kazar86]

Troll -.-
If you are not trolling, all you are saynig is argued here http://social.biowar...5/index/9727423

[sartt]

Draconis6666 wrote...

sartt wrote...

DeathScepter wrote...

Well thinking you have a choice is a major part of being indocrinated. So giving the control option to Shepard while he is thinking he has free will is key.

He had a Choice 3 Choices actually. 1 choice was to control which would not have been possible if he was Indoctrinated as the Illusive man was already there before him and tried and failed. BECAUSE THE ILLUSIVE MAN WAS ALREADY UNDER THE REAPERS CONTROL. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because it has nothing to do with the theory?

If the theory is true then the choice doesnt actualy exist, its a construct of shepards mind,  The choice is possible because it represents giving in to the reapers, the indoctrination theory clearly rely s ont he fact that none of it actualy happens and is all in shepards mind. Your argument is completely rediculous because it ignores every basic logical concept of the theory and claims the issue is false through arguing a statement that has nothing to do with the premises that comprise the theory.

Your argument makes no sense anyway, control is the option the reapers WANT you to pick indoctrinated or not. Even if you assume that its all real, TIM chose control BECAUSE he was indoctrinated, so of course they will give you the option its what they want. Your argument makes no sense at all, the option that should not exist if shepard is indoctrinated is destroy, and even that is only true if he is completely indoctrinated already which is not what the theory even states to begin with,

So then what blew up the mass relays ultimately destroying the Reapers? A Reaper slave? 

Tim choose control because thats what he wanted, but he couldn't BECAUSE TIM WAS ALREADY INDOCTRINATED.

The option that should not exist if he was indoctrinated would e the Destroy option.... WHICH WAS AN OPTION. You seriously trying to debate me when you proved yourself wrong.

[sartt]

Draconis6666 wrote...

The title of the thread is ironic because the OP has no logic either

Nice name. so where you from?

[FatalX7.0]

I just want people to stop posing a player formed theory as fact.

[Jadebaby]

sartt wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

sartt wrote...
 WHY WOULD HARBINGER MOVE THE CITADEL TO EARTH IF SHEPARD WAS ALREADY UNDER HIS CONTROL.[/b]

Errr because Shepard isn't under his control at that point.....

Gotta love those posts that convey their whole message in the thread title.

You serious? So let me guess when was he  " Under Their Control " at what point? When the catalyst said stand up? When Admiral Hacket put the Crucible into position? Ultimately the only weapon that could defeat the reapers?  Or when shepard  chose his choice? Or has Sheperd been indoctrinated since his first reaper  artifact encounter. Maybe he was " Indoctrinated during his encounter with Object Rho, or maybe his entire squad was already indoctrinated. See what i did?

THEORYS WITH NO PROOF.

No, if you choose synthesis or control then you become indoctrinated. Hence the only way to break indoctrination and wake up (breath scene) is to pick destroy. That's why it's coloured red to represent renegade... The bad choice... It's a trick.

Seriously... Are you trolling? If so you're a terrible one.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

I don't buy into Indoctrination Theory. But! Those eyes at the end give me pause.

Anyways, while I don't agree with IDT, I support the IDT folks right to their own opinions. High Fives for everyone!

[sartt]

meiwow2 wrote...

Gotta love dumb people who act smart

Right back at you.... Except for the " Smart " part. Stupid Pyjak.

[Jadebaby]

Draconis6666 wrote..

The title of the thread is ironic because the OP has no logic either

Go easy on him.. He's a husk, Im surprised he can type coherently!

[sartt]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

sartt wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

sartt wrote...
 WHY WOULD HARBINGER MOVE THE CITADEL TO EARTH IF SHEPARD WAS ALREADY UNDER HIS CONTROL.[/b]

Errr because Shepard isn't under his control at that point.....

Gotta love those posts that convey their whole message in the thread title.

You serious? So let me guess when was he  " Under Their Control " at what point? When the catalyst said stand up? When Admiral Hacket put the Crucible into position? Ultimately the only weapon that could defeat the reapers?  Or when shepard  chose his choice? Or has Sheperd been indoctrinated since his first reaper  artifact encounter. Maybe he was " Indoctrinated during his encounter with Object Rho, or maybe his entire squad was already indoctrinated. See what i did?

THEORYS WITH NO PROOF.

No, if you choose synthesis or control then you become indoctrinated. Hence the only way to break indoctrination and wake up (breath scene) is to pick destroy. That's why it's coloured red to represent renegade... The bad choice... It's a trick.

Seriously... Are you trolling? If so you're a terrible one.

Yet what proof do you have that if you choose the control or synthesis option that you are indoctrinated? or is it just your Opinionated Theory?

[Icinix]

There isn't just one indoctrination theory. There are many.

Some believe Shep is indoctrinated at the beam when Harbinger does his little ray of sunshine.

Others believe its at the Cerberus base and some only after Tim and Anderson.


You either have faith its deeper, or you believe BioWare decided to took their paper, used it as toilet paper and then submitted that as the ending....

..personally I find the latter much harder to believe.

[draken-heart]

there's a lot of evidence against the Ending Defenders right now in the indoctrination theory, which also gets a lot of evidence from the very best "destroy reapers" ending, which has Shepard alive, which logically would not happen unless Shepard was still on Earth. Evidenced by the explosion, Being spaced, again, sent flying to the Earth, landing in rubble and surviving. Either Shepard w/extremely high EMS gives him/her massive Plot Armor, or the ending we have now is not the real ending as the last time Shepard got spaced, he/she died and had to be rebuilt.

watch that ending and see if you still believe that these are the endings. (not saying i believe Indoctrination theory, but it is a viable theory if all the evidence is put together)