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The Indoctrination Theory Has no Logic. It Isn't real. So Stop Saying That Shepard Is Indoctrinated, Because He's Not.


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#126
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DaringMoosejaw wrote...

This is what we call a great example of how not to convince anybody of anything. This topic is inherently pointless.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

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sartt wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

This is what we call a great example of how not to convince anybody of anything. This topic is inherently pointless.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.


lolwut... your entire topic title is a persuasive statement.

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Hendrik.III

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Stop? Why? You feeling threatened or something?

I don't care what other people think about the ending, might be true - might not be. What's your problem, man? We'll know in a few weeks.

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RavenEyry wrote...

sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

someone didn't read the IT...

i did. and i stated that theres no way shepard could be indoctrinated. so that guys entire thread was pointless.


Shepard isn't indoctrinated even in the theory, so your thread is entirely pointless.

Its like you type something nd you tell me i didnt read it when BYNE has it  that " The Reapers Used Shepard Slight INDOCTRINATION " How ever small it was he is still   - INDOCTRINATED -

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Draconis6666 wrote...

sartt wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

This is what we call a great example of how not to convince anybody of anything. This topic is inherently pointless.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.


lolwut... your entire topic title is a persuasive statement.

THATS SARCASM AIMED AT daringmoosejaw.

#131
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There is logic behind the Indoctrination Theory, but all of it comes from the fanbase. Bioware has shown us that they're not smart enough to make such an ending.

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op is a moron, stop feeding the troll people :D

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I've found it amusing reading this topic and seeing sartt rapidly descending into madness.

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sartt wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

sartt wrote...
 WHY WOULD HARBINGER MOVE THE CITADEL TO EARTH IF SHEPARD WAS ALREADY UNDER HIS CONTROL.[/b]


Errr because Shepard isn't under his control at that point.....

Gotta love those posts that convey their whole message in the thread title.

You serious? So let me guess when was he  " Under Their Control " at what point? When the catalyst said stand up? When Admiral Hacket put the Crucible into position? Ultimately the only weapon that could defeat the reapers?  Or when shepard  chose his choice? Or has Sheperd been indoctrinated since his first reaper  artifact encounter. Maybe he was " Indoctrinated during his encounter with Object Rho, or maybe his entire squad was already indoctrinated. See what i did?

THEORYS WITH NO PROOF.


Well now if everyone had substantial proof and facts about what "exactly" happened during the ending, we wouldn't have to theorize, would we? Mr.Logic

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Worst post on the forum. Does not require more tests. Conclusive.

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sartt wrote...

My Mind Is simply " IS " You cannot fathom my way of thinking I am " Infinitely your greater "


I can't fathom you way of writing to begin with.

#137
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Murphy Nox wrote...

There is logic behind the Indoctrination Theory, but all of it comes from the fanbase. Bioware has shown us that they're not smart enough to make such an ending.

i agree with this. Either Bioware or E.A  messed this game up.

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Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

 
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Hahahahaha ^This

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BigEvil wrote...

I've found it amusing reading this topic and seeing sartt rapidly descending into madness.


That or doing something that's causing rapid brain cell loss and decreasing IQ.

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sartt wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

someone didn't read the IT...

i did. and i stated that theres no way shepard could be indoctrinated. so that guys entire thread was pointless.


Shepard isn't indoctrinated even in the theory, so your thread is entirely pointless.

QUOTED FROM BYNE I.T Post


" The Reapers used Shepard's slight indoctrination and confused state as part of a last ditch effort to get Shepard to take himself out of the picture, since they knew that if they didnt do so, Shepard was about to win. "


Not sure if you're doing it on purpose but

If he was Indoctrinated he would never have been given the Control Option. He would have ended up like The Illusive Man and Saren. What's so hard to understand about this? He never would've been able to progress this far if he was.
 Like with all Theories. THEY ARE JUST SOMEONES misguided idea's and opinions on what they think has happened or is happening. With no real proof, and the masses just start to believe in it.


the whole ending scene, according to the IT, is a struggle in Shepard's mind to FIGHT indoctrination. The 3 choices are given because Harbinger doesn't have full control but wants him to 'give in', seemingly, via control or synthesis (both options that the starchild seems to favor and that doesn't result in the reaper's destruction), whereas he portrays the destroy ending in a bad light. The destroy ending doesn't LITERALLY kill the reapers, it just fights off the indoctrination in Shepard's mind and allows him to wake up in the 'secret' ending.

that's it...not that hard.

I suggest people stop replying to this so this seen-a-million-times-before thread doesn't stay at the top. 

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Dude... before bashing someone's idea.. it is always best to study their idea which you clearly haven't, so my theory is that you are trolling or "TT" (Trolling Theory).

The indoctrination theory is based on a dream, so Shepard is not walking about and choosing, he is dreaming, and his choices are only a metaphor to describe his inner struggle.. so he is not actually shooting at anything or walking into any light.. this is like a dream, it doesn't have to make sense.. it is a decision, period.

That said I do not believe or disbelieve in the IT, but I do believe that this thread is reeking of TT.

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esideras wrote...

sartt wrote...

My Mind Is simply " IS " You cannot fathom my way of thinking I am " Infinitely your greater "


I can't fathom you way of writing to begin with.

i know you can't. I stated that for people like you with a low brain power to read the underline Part of  my First ost.Image IPB

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bigbade wrote...

sartt wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

someone didn't read the IT...

i did. and i stated that theres no way shepard could be indoctrinated. so that guys entire thread was pointless.


Shepard isn't indoctrinated even in the theory, so your thread is entirely pointless.

QUOTED FROM BYNE I.T Post


" The Reapers used Shepard's slight indoctrination and confused state as part of a last ditch effort to get Shepard to take himself out of the picture, since they knew that if they didnt do so, Shepard was about to win. "


Not sure if you're doing it on purpose but

If he was Indoctrinated he would never have been given the Control Option. He would have ended up like The Illusive Man and Saren. What's so hard to understand about this? He never would've been able to progress this far if he was.
 Like with all Theories. THEY ARE JUST SOMEONES misguided idea's and opinions on what they think has happened or is happening. With no real proof, and the masses just start to believe in it.


the whole ending scene, according to the IT, is a struggle in Shepard's mind to FIGHT indoctrination. The 3 choices are given because Harbinger doesn't have full control but wants him to 'give in', seemingly, via control or synthesis (both options that the starchild seems to favor and that doesn't result in the reaper's destruction), whereas he portrays the destroy ending in a bad light. The destroy ending doesn't LITERALLY kill the reapers, it just fights off the indoctrination in Shepard's mind and allows him to wake up in the 'secret' ending.

that's it...not that hard.

I suggest people stop replying to this so this seen-a-million-times-before thread doesn't stay at the top. 


and /end thread

#144
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bigbade wrote...

sartt wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

someone didn't read the IT...

i did. and i stated that theres no way shepard could be indoctrinated. so that guys entire thread was pointless.


Shepard isn't indoctrinated even in the theory, so your thread is entirely pointless.

QUOTED FROM BYNE I.T Post


" The Reapers used Shepard's slight indoctrination and confused state as part of a last ditch effort to get Shepard to take himself out of the picture, since they knew that if they didnt do so, Shepard was about to win. "


Not sure if you're doing it on purpose but

If he was Indoctrinated he would never have been given the Control Option. He would have ended up like The Illusive Man and Saren. What's so hard to understand about this? He never would've been able to progress this far if he was.
 Like with all Theories. THEY ARE JUST SOMEONES misguided idea's and opinions on what they think has happened or is happening. With no real proof, and the masses just start to believe in it.


the whole ending scene, according to the IT, is a struggle in Shepard's mind to FIGHT indoctrination. The 3 choices are given because Harbinger doesn't have full control but wants him to 'give in', seemingly, via control or synthesis (both options that the starchild seems to favor and that doesn't result in the reaper's destruction), whereas he portrays the destroy ending in a bad light. The destroy ending doesn't LITERALLY kill the reapers, it just fights off the indoctrination in Shepard's mind and allows him to wake up in the 'secret' ending.

that's it...not that hard.

I suggest people stop replying to this so this seen-a-million-times-before thread doesn't stay at the top. 

Harbinger doesn't control the Reapers. He's just a pawn. Javik or one of those Prothean VI's even stated this on thessia.

#145
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Why are you people arguing with someone who thinks that an asteroid hitting the Earth, thus contributing to the extinction of the dinosaurs, isn't supported by any evidence? You should just be saying 'prove it', because he can't do it anymore then the Indoc people can for their side.

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sartt wrote...

  
             THIS PART IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES AND          DECIPHER                 
AND          PROCESS INFORMATION QUICKLY.


Scroll Down for the Simple Version for those who " BrainImage IPB Hurt " from Wall of Text. Go under the ______________.







If he was Indoctrinated he would never have been given the  Control Option. He would have ended up like The Illusive Man and Saren.    What's so hard to understand about this? He never would've been able to progress this far if he was.
 Like with all Theories.  THEY ARE JUST SOMEONES misguided idea's and opinions on what they think has happened  or is happening. With no real proof, and the masses just start to believe in it. 


Here's an example of a Conspiracy Theory that you can prove is real the N.W.O  when the last 5 President have all pubicly stated for a New World Order by killing 6.9 Billion people on earth and its all video taped, or the fact Leon Panetta ( The United States Secretary of Defense ) has said that the U.N and N.A.T.O now control the U.S military and is on video tape saying it.. The current State of Affairs with our planet in the REAL WORLD.

Its a Theory... THAT YOU CAN PROVE.

Heres one you cannot Prove. What killed the Dinosaurs? Some people say an asteroid wiped them out. With no  "Humans"  alive during that time theres no way to prove it. Yet , it's all taught in school thats thats a fact. WITH NO REAL EVIDENCE THAT THATS WHAT HAPPENED.

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Now some of  YOU PEOPLE  with a short attention span may not have any idea what im talking about  so heres the Simple Version of what im trying to say about the " Indoctrination Theory "

  ITS COMPLETE AND UTTER BULL**** Image IPB DON'T BELIEVE IT. ITS ISN'T REAL  WHY WOULD HARBINGER MOVE THE CITADEL TO EARTH IF SHEPARD WAS ALREADY UNDER HIS CONTROL.


...Wow. Well, at least you've proven that your inability to reason doesn't only apply to video games.

#147
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Hey...guess what?

Shepard is indoctrinated.

COME AT ME BRO!

#148
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JosephShrike wrote...

Why are you people arguing with someone who thinks that an asteroid hitting the Earth, thus contributing to the extinction of the dinosaurs, isn't supported by any evidence? You should just be saying 'prove it', because he can't do it anymore then the Indoc people can for their side.

i dont think a asteroid hit the earth. that a theory thatmost people beleive in with no proof. did you READ WHAT I WROTE?

#149
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Of course Shepard was not indoctrinated. He was just drunk and had drunken hallucination about the kid citadel moved on earth etc.
It's strongly confirmed ingame.

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FoxShadowblade wrote...

Hey...guess what?

Shepard is indoctrinated.

COME AT ME BRO!

How big of a Load do you want?...










I just had too type that.