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The Indoctrination Theory Has no Logic. It Isn't real. So Stop Saying That Shepard Is Indoctrinated, Because He's Not.


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Hey...guess what?

Shepard is indoctrinated.

COME AT ME BRO!




I just had too type that.

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sartt wrote...

JosephShrike wrote...

Why are you people arguing with someone who thinks that an asteroid hitting the Earth, thus contributing to the extinction of the dinosaurs, isn't supported by any evidence? You should just be saying 'prove it', because he can't do it anymore then the Indoc people can for their side.

i dont think a asteroid hit the earth. that a theory thatmost people beleive in with no proof. did you READ WHAT I WROTE?


I read what you wrote, and it was quite possibly the stupidiest thing I've ever read on these forums, which is saying a considerable amount. Maybe you should read up on the K-T boundary. Or maybe that's not 'proof' enough for you. If it isn't you should probably just take your multi millions and go hide in a cave. Upside, you wouldn't have to pay taxes on it, and since proof is entirely subjective to you, you wouldn't be all upset about everything that failed to establish itself to your high standards. Also, we wouldn't have to listen to you.

I can't think of a downside.

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brothers! sisters! no need to argue. have you heard the good news of the intoxication theory? A savior is coming and his name is dlc. proven. fact.

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sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

sartt wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

someone didn't read the IT...

i did. and i stated that theres no way shepard could be indoctrinated. so that guys entire thread was pointless.


Shepard isn't indoctrinated even in the theory, so your thread is entirely pointless.

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" The Reapers used Shepard's slight indoctrination and confused state as part of a last ditch effort to get Shepard to take himself out of the picture, since they knew that if they didnt do so, Shepard was about to win. "


Not sure if you're doing it on purpose but

If he was Indoctrinated he would never have been given the Control Option. He would have ended up like The Illusive Man and Saren. What's so hard to understand about this? He never would've been able to progress this far if he was.
 Like with all Theories. THEY ARE JUST SOMEONES misguided idea's and opinions on what they think has happened or is happening. With no real proof, and the masses just start to believe in it.


the whole ending scene, according to the IT, is a struggle in Shepard's mind to FIGHT indoctrination. The 3 choices are given because Harbinger doesn't have full control but wants him to 'give in', seemingly, via control or synthesis (both options that the starchild seems to favor and that doesn't result in the reaper's destruction), whereas he portrays the destroy ending in a bad light. The destroy ending doesn't LITERALLY kill the reapers, it just fights off the indoctrination in Shepard's mind and allows him to wake up in the 'secret' ending.

that's it...not that hard.

I suggest people stop replying to this so this seen-a-million-times-before thread doesn't stay at the top. 

Harbinger doesn't control the Reapers. He's just a pawn. Javik or one of those Prothean VI's even stated this on thessia.


what the.....any reaper can indoctrinate. Harbinger was the one doing the laser beaming, Harbinger is still the pack leader whether he's a pawn in a greater scheme or not and his personal vendetta against Shepard was highlighted pretty well in ME2.

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Sakanade wrote...

Read first line

Saw CAPS LOCK RAGE

didn't read rest.

This.

#156
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wheelierdan wrote...

brothers! sisters! no need to argue. have you heard the good news of the intoxication theory? A savior is coming and his name is dlc. proven. fact.

i thought his name was Marauder Sheilds Image IPB

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Lana Del Rey wrote...

Sakanade wrote...

Read first line

Saw CAPS LOCK RAGE

didn't read rest.

This.

Yet you still posted something.

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This

Modifié par Mandalore313, 27 mars 2012 - 03:29 .


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OP your flame baiting so I had to report you.

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bigbade wrote...

sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

sartt wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

sartt wrote...

bigbade wrote...

someone didn't read the IT...

i did. and i stated that theres no way shepard could be indoctrinated. so that guys entire thread was pointless.


Shepard isn't indoctrinated even in the theory, so your thread is entirely pointless.

QUOTED FROM BYNE I.T Post


" The Reapers used Shepard's slight indoctrination and confused state as part of a last ditch effort to get Shepard to take himself out of the picture, since they knew that if they didnt do so, Shepard was about to win. "


Not sure if you're doing it on purpose but

If he was Indoctrinated he would never have been given the Control Option. He would have ended up like The Illusive Man and Saren. What's so hard to understand about this? He never would've been able to progress this far if he was.
 Like with all Theories. THEY ARE JUST SOMEONES misguided idea's and opinions on what they think has happened or is happening. With no real proof, and the masses just start to believe in it.


the whole ending scene, according to the IT, is a struggle in Shepard's mind to FIGHT indoctrination. The 3 choices are given because Harbinger doesn't have full control but wants him to 'give in', seemingly, via control or synthesis (both options that the starchild seems to favor and that doesn't result in the reaper's destruction), whereas he portrays the destroy ending in a bad light. The destroy ending doesn't LITERALLY kill the reapers, it just fights off the indoctrination in Shepard's mind and allows him to wake up in the 'secret' ending.

that's it...not that hard.

I suggest people stop replying to this so this seen-a-million-times-before thread doesn't stay at the top. 

Harbinger doesn't control the Reapers. He's just a pawn. Javik or one of those Prothean VI's even stated this on thessia.


what the.....any reaper can indoctrinate. Harbinger was the one doing the laser beaming, Harbinger is still the pack leader whether he's a pawn in a greater scheme or not and his personal vendetta against Shepard was highlighted pretty well in ME2.

Vendetta? He admired Shepard was annoyed by shepard  and awed by shepard and the Human race. Thus, why he led the attack on harbinger.

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Jackal7713 wrote...

OP your flame baiting so I had to report you.

Once again your opinion. I;ve never even heard of flame baiting before.

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OP I don't believe The Indoctrination Theory either, but I don't get why you have to bait those that do, if its true its true if its not its not.

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Actually,...if you're intelligent enough, with enough creativity, you can pick up on all the evidence throughout the game.

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OP I don't believe The Indoctrination Theory either, but I don't get why you have to bait those that do, if its true its true if its not its not.

Because i want to see why they believe that shepard is where in numerous parts though out this game it clearly shows Shepard no indoctrinated and he's immune to it. Yet, people continue to think he is. Bioware has yet to say anything about Shepard being Indcotrinated yet BYNE someone who had no say in the development of the game  says that shepard was " Slightly " indoctrinated and multiple people just start saying he is, when it's clear that shepard IS NOT INDOCTRINATED. That little Ghost kid gave him 3 choices AND YOU/SHEPARD CHOSE THEM.

CONTROL =  Shepard Cannot Be INDOCTRINATEDNOT EVEN SLIGHTLY

Synthethis  =  New D.N.A   CYCLE of destruction ends

 Destroy     =  ( Depending on your E.M.S rating )  All synthetic life is destroyed I.E THE REAPERS ARE DEAD GETH ARE DEAD. WHY WOULD THEY LET YOU CHOOSE TO DESTROY THEM.

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Are you ****ing retarded? The whole point of the final battle is a way for Reapers to deal with you via negotiation, and giving the illusion of choice in a negotiation is a perfectly valid move.

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Liquoid wrote...

Are you ****ing retarded? The whole point of the final battle is a way for Reapers to deal with you via negotiation, and giving the illusion of choice in a negotiation is a perfectly valid move.


Which would mean they sold us an unfinished game without the intention to clarify the ending. Because they were pretty much suprised the community disliked it.

Bioware stated: "Clearing" and "Closure", not telling another "after-Indoc" story.

The text after the game says, no matter your choice, you defeated the reapers and became legend.

You get the "Destroy" option as your first choice. If you dont have enough EMS this is your ONLY choice.
IT states: Destroy is your way rejecting the Indoctrination.
How should that come together? If you are unprepared and your forces are weak you can always reject Indoctrination?

And if you are strong in your EMS you get bonus choices to loose, so i can pick if i want to loose the green or blue way?
Sorry guys, that just doesnt fit. No IT in the end.

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#168
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Liquoid wrote...

Are you ****ing retarded? The whole point of the final battle is a way for Reapers to deal with you via negotiation, and giving the illusion of choice in a negotiation is a perfectly valid move.

Did bioware at anypoint  up until now say this? NO THEY HAVEN'T YET PEOPLE CONTINUE TO THINK  Shepard is Indoctrinated at some point in this game WHEN HE ISN'T  and cannot be.

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Falconee wrote...

Liquoid wrote...

Are you ****ing retarded? The whole point of the final battle is a way for Reapers to deal with you via negotiation, and giving the illusion of choice in a negotiation is a perfectly valid move.


Which would mean they sold us an unfinished game without the intention to clarify the ending. Because they were pretty much suprised the community disliked it.

Bioware stated: "Clearing" and "Closure", not telling another "after-Indoc" story.

The text after the game says, no matter your choice, you defeated the reapers and became legend.

You get the "Destroy" option as your first choice. If you dont have enough EMS this is your ONLY choice.
IT states: Destroy is your way rejecting the Indoctrination.
How should that come together? If you are unprepared and your forces are weak you can always reject Indoctrination?

Wow the only person who actually understands what i've been trying to say. Yet the sheeple continue to debate the ending of the game.

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Falconee wins Infinite Internets the rest of you go back to Writing on stone with a pick and a Chisel. Thread done.
I will however continue to reply to people with low brain power who try to deny all the facts presented to you.

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sartt wrote...

Falconee wins Infinite Internets the rest of you go back to Writing on stone with a pick and a Chisel. Thread done.
I will however continue to reply to people with low brain power who try to deny all the facts presented to you.



your not replying to yourself though

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Draconis6666 wrote...

sartt wrote...

Falconee wins Infinite Internets the rest of you go back to Writing on stone with a pick and a Chisel. Thread done.
I will however continue to reply to people with low brain power who try to deny all the facts presented to you.



your not replying to yourself though

I'm too busy replying to you. Curiously have you paid any attention to your message inbox?

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sartt wrote...

Falconee wrote...

Liquoid wrote...

Are you ****ing retarded? The whole point of the final battle is a way for Reapers to deal with you via negotiation, and giving the illusion of choice in a negotiation is a perfectly valid move.


Which would mean they sold us an unfinished game without the intention to clarify the ending. Because they were pretty much suprised the community disliked it.

Bioware stated: "Clearing" and "Closure", not telling another "after-Indoc" story.

The text after the game says, no matter your choice, you defeated the reapers and became legend.

You get the "Destroy" option as your first choice. If you dont have enough EMS this is your ONLY choice.
IT states: Destroy is your way rejecting the Indoctrination.
How should that come together? If you are unprepared and your forces are weak you can always reject Indoctrination?

Wow the only person who actually understands what i've been trying to say. Yet the sheeple continue to debate the ending of the game.



Except thats not what you said, what he just said is a logical argument what you said was innane dribble that ignored all the points of the argument it was attacking and gave evidence that supported nothing and in facted used the wrong evidence out of the evidence available while attempting to argue that something else was illogical. So your either a troll or have no idea what the word logic actualy means.

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I tbink I just saw the OP claim that the IT is fake but his crazy irl conspiracy theory is true.

Mind blown.