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[kbct]

Salvatore510 wrote...

davidshooter wrote...
I'm not acting, I'm quoting the Walmart Canada website which is advertising the product at the price point I quoted.  Every store near me is showing that price (I'm in Toronto).  I'd demand that price at any location in Canada if it was marked differently on the floor.

You are. Not a single store has dropped the price to $30 that isn't a sale.

Buisness's are not as stupid as you seem to think they are.

EA is not stupid either. Prices are creeping down everywhere - in Canada, in the US, and in the UK. Maybe other countries too.

[davidshooter]

Salvatore510 wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Salvatore510 wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Salvatore510 wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Walmart Canada as of this post. Prices are in store (not just online)

ME3 xbox $29.83
ME3 PS3 $29.83

Skyrim xbox $59,83
Skyrim PS3 $59.83

I'd say sales of ME3 have been weak - in Canada at least.

No it's not. I was just in one a couple days ago.

Every single retail store that drops the price, is having a sale. Only online retailers are dropping the price. You guys are blatantly wrong (Or lying if you're stating it) if you think stores are halving the price not even a month in. A game would have to be moving no copies to drop that bad, and it's still selling copies.

I quoted their site.

http://www.walmart.c...equestid=135720


I can't say whether every store is up on their price maintenace but this isn't an online discount, it's an advertised store price.  When I put my postal code into the availability search engine all the stores near me come up showing stock and that price.  Don't know what else to tell you.

You act like it's all of Wal Mart in Canada when it's very likely it's a few stores doing a  in store sale. No Wal Mart in my region has dropped it below $60 (Or any store for that matter). The game isn't selling bad enough to let it drop a couple dollars let alone $30.

Stores simply do not slash the price in half unless the game hasn't moved a single copy, and that's obviously not the case.

Games go on sale all the time near release, but that doesn't mean it stays that low. A sale is a sale.

I'm not acting, I'm quoting the Walmart Canada website which is advertising the product at the price point I quoted.  Every store near me is showing that price (I'm in Toronto).  I'd demand that price at any location in Canada if it was marked differently on the floor.

You are. Not a single store has dropped the price to $30 that isn't a sale.

Buisness's are not as stupid as you seem to think they are.

Sale is what it's called in retail when you drop the price.

You started off disputing it was actually $29.00

Now you seem to be hung up on semantics of the word sale.

Walmart is selling ME3 for $30.

Modifié par davidshooter, 31 mars 2012 - 09:46 .

[thunderhawk862002]

Well a sale can either be temporary or permanent. If Mass Effect 3 has a permanent drop in price for Wal-Mart (Canada) that wouldn't be a good sign.

Modifié par thunderhawk862002, 31 mars 2012 - 09:45 .

[NightKay]

It's £21.85 on amazon.co.uk

[BronD69]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.

Holy kack. $ 29.99,Never known new release to be halved in same release month in any store .This
has to be a new for Bioware?.. generally Bioware games drop fast but not this fast.

Modifié par BronD69, 31 mars 2012 - 10:58 .

[BronD69]

[quote]davidshooter wrote...

[quote]Salvatore510 wrote...

[quote]davidshooter wrote...

[quote]Salvatore510 wrote...

[quote]davidshooter wrote...

[quote]Salvatore510 wrote...

[quote]davidshooter wrote...

Walmart Canada as of this post. Prices are in store (not just online)

ME3 xbox $29.83
ME3 PS3 $29.83

Skyrim xbox $59,83
Skyrim PS3 $59.83

I'd say sales of ME3 have been weak - in Canada at least.[/quote]

No it's not. I was just in one a couple days ago.

Every single retail store that drops the price, is having a sale. Only online retailers are dropping the price. You guys are blatantly wrong (Or lying if you're stating it) if you think stores are halving the price not even a month in. A game would have to be moving no copies to drop that bad, and it's still selling copies.[/quote]

I quoted their site.

http://www.walmart.c...equestid=135720


I can't say whether every store is up on their price maintenace but this isn't an online discount, it's an advertised store price.  When I put my postal code into the availability search engine all the stores near me come up showing stock and that price.  Don't know what else to tell you.

[/quote]

You act like it's all of Wal Mart in Canada when it's very likely it's a few stores doing a  in store sale. No Wal Mart in my region has dropped it below $60 (Or any store for that matter). The game isn't selling bad enough to let it drop a couple dollars let alone $30.

Stores simply do not slash the price in half unless the game hasn't moved a single copy, and that's obviously not the case.

Games go on sale all the time near release, but that doesn't mean it stays that low. A sale is a sale.[/quote]

I'm not acting, I'm quoting the Walmart Canada website which is advertising the product at the price point I quoted.  Every store near me is showing that price (I'm in Toronto).  I'd demand that price at any location in Canada if it was marked differently on the floor.


[/quote]

You are. Not a single store has dropped the price to $30 that isn't a sale.

Buisness's are not as stupid as you seem to think they are.
[/quote]

Sale is what it's called in retail when you drop the price.

You started off disputing it was actually $29.00

Now you seem to be hung up on semantics of the word sale.

Walmart is selling ME3 for $30.



It sure is $29.99 in my store and thats no BOJEST

[kbct]

BronD69 wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.

Holy kack. $ 29.99,Never known new release to be halved in same release month in any store .

Don't worry, it will all get better soon. Heh.

[Farbautisonn]

kbct wrote...

BronD69 wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.

Holy kack. $ 29.99,Never known new release to be halved in same release month in any store .

Don't worry, it will all get better soon. Heh.

[Cancer Puppet]

BronD69 wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.

Holy kack. $ 29.99,Never known new release to be halved in same release month in any store .This
has to be a new for Bioware?.. generally Bioware games drop fast but not this fast.

I picked up Arkham City for half-price in November. Battlefield 3 was on sale too. This was, of course, black Friday though...

[Dridengx]

BronD69 wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.

Holy kack. $ 29.99,Never known new release to be halved in same release month in any store .This
has to be a new for Bioware?.. generally Bioware games drop fast but not this fast.

God of War 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City, shall I go on or do you want to continue believing Retake?

[petipas4141]

Dridengx wrote...

BronD69 wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.

Holy kack. $ 29.99,Never known new release to be halved in same release month in any store .This
has to be a new for Bioware?.. generally Bioware games drop fast but not this fast.

God of War 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City, shall I go on or do you want to continue believing Retake?

please, continue.

[DigitalAvatar]

BioWare sold an incomplete game on false promises. Feeling some impact from that can only be a good thing. If they don't feel financial consequences EA don't give a proverbial rat's ass about player satisfaction or game quality.
But of course, major publishers never admit they've made a mistake, or that part of their game is fundamentally flawed. They'll just blame the lack of sales on piracy.

[Dragoonlordz]

kbct wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

kbct wrote...

Agreed. I love it when people have actual knowledge of the situation. Any more info on which party eats what percentage of the discount? Does EA eat the entire discount?

EA might want the sales number up irrespective of profit margin. Sale numbers can be presented to mean different things. They are vague. They are the big print. Only when you look at the small print do you see the truth.

I'm not familiar with any of the terms between Walmart and any of the gaming vendors so I don't know. 

In my industry they would have asked for a credit (thereby lowering their cost price) so they could move the inventory discounted with the original margin.  It's been a long time since those days though.

Thanks. The big dogs like Amazon and Walmart are definitely not eating the discounts. I just wish I had knew the actual terms.

When dealing with smaller companies and I bet the one who made the claim that EA are taking the hit instead of Walmart is very much part of a smaller company than EA and far less influencial. EA is a truly huge asset to any retailer and I would say Walmart are taking the hit on profits, not EA.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 avril 2012 - 04:55 .

[Dragoonlordz]

NightKay wrote...

It's £21.85 on amazon.co.uk

Amazon is one of the biggest retailers so the quantity of stock they ordered would of been vast, this would of given them a very large discount on their purchase. In turn this allows for far more discretion and ability to lower prices in order to compete with every other retailer, out pricing them and still retaining great deal of profit.

[Dreogan]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

NightKay wrote...

It's £21.85 on amazon.co.uk

Amazon is one of the biggest retailers so the quantity of stock they ordered would of been vast, this would of given them a very large discount on their purchase. In turn this allows for far more discretion and ability to lower prices in order to compete with every other retailer, out pricing them and still retaining great deal of profit.

Amazon doesn't buy the games for half MSRP, even at very large orders. At most, their profit on orders would be around 20%.

[Dragoonlordz]

Dreogan wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

NightKay wrote...

It's £21.85 on amazon.co.uk

Amazon is one of the biggest retailers so the quantity of stock they ordered would of been vast, this would of given them a very large discount on their purchase. In turn this allows for far more discretion and ability to lower prices in order to compete with every other retailer, out pricing them and still retaining great deal of profit.

Amazon doesn't buy the games for half MSRP, even at very large orders. At most, their profit on orders would be around 20%.

I dispatch and sell hundreds of thousands of stock of my product on a regular basis, the stores/customers that order on that scale get on average 60% discount or there abouts. The ones that order a few hundred get vastly less discount more inline with 20%. So yes I think Amazon who who is one of the biggest retailers would of got more than 20% profit on the stock they ordered. I doubt very much they did not order enough to qualify for much larger discount.

[Dreogan]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Dreogan wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

NightKay wrote...

It's £21.85 on amazon.co.uk

Amazon is one of the biggest retailers so the quantity of stock they ordered would of been vast, this would of given them a very large discount on their purchase. In turn this allows for far more discretion and ability to lower prices in order to compete with every other retailer, out pricing them and still retaining great deal of profit.

Amazon doesn't buy the games for half MSRP, even at very large orders. At most, their profit on orders would be around 20%.

I dispatch and sell hundreds of thousands of stock of my product on a regular basis, the stores/customers that order on that scale get on average 60% discount or there abouts. The ones that order a few hundred get vastly less discount more inline with 20%. So yes I think Amazon who who is one of the biggest retailers would of got more than 20% profit on the stock they ordered. I doubt very much they did not order enough to qualify for much larger discount.

Please keep in mind even if they were able to get such a hefty discount, they'd also have costs on top of all of this. Amazon certainly is run on a fairly low budget, but being able to drop the price that low, especially for Best Buy, is likely costing them something.

[BronD69]

[quote]Dridengx wrote...

[quote]BronD69 wrote...

[quote]ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.[/quote]

Holy kack. $ 29.99,Never known new release to be halved in same release month in any store .This
has to be a new for Bioware?.. generally Bioware games drop fast but not this fast.
[/quote]

God of War 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City, shall I go on or do you want to continue believing Retake?

Understandable with those games.. but this is Mass Effect the greatest game series ever made!!
well to me anyway.Granted the last 10mins wasn't what I wanted but was a hell of a ride up till then

[Marixus99.9]

Rockpopple wrote...

 Business doesn't seem to be hurtin' for Mass Effect 3

Interesting site..

Global stats on site:

10th March 2012 :  Week 1  :   1,631,609  :  1,631,609
17th March 2012 :  Week 2  :      338,672  :  1,970,281
24th March 2012 :  Week 3  :      165,734  :  2,136,015

No information on week 4 though.

Modifié par Marixus99.9, 01 avril 2012 - 05:39 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Marixus99.9 wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

 Business doesn't seem to be hurtin' for Mass Effect 3

Interesting site..

Global stats on site:

10th March 2012 :  Week 1  :   1,631,609  :  1,631,609
17th March 2012 :  Week 2  :      338,672  :  1,970,281
24th March 2012 :  Week 3  :      165,734  :  2,136,015

No information on week 4 though.

Thats also just the 360 version linked. When combine all formats on the site and articles it comes to about 2.4 million first week, over 560k second and around 220k third. This is more than ME1 and ME2 when they came out and while there is a valid point about not knowing cost to develop if I was EA looking at those estimated numbers I would be far from upset.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 avril 2012 - 05:56 .

[FluffyScarf]

Riding on backs of previous success. Same reason why BF3 had so many sales, despite being quite mediocre compared with previous BF titles.

[Tiax Rules All]

nedpepper wrote...

I find it disheartening that you guys want to celebrate that this uproar has caused ME3 to suffer in sales. I just don't get it. This may the most cynical forum I've ever been to.

[Dragoonlordz]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Riding on backs of previous success. Same reason why BF3 had so many sales, despite being quite mediocre compared with previous BF titles.

I don't see why any reason makes more sales is a bad thing. More sales is good for Bioware meaning more money possibly invested by EA for their next title. It could create more sales due to coming with free cookie or provocative box art, more sales the better because it means more investment in future products from a developer that more often than not has created products I like.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 avril 2012 - 06:07 .

[FluffyScarf]

More sales for mediocre products is only going to reinforce to the devs/publishers that it's okay to put half-arsed efforts into a big name title because you know it'll sell well regardless. Kind of like how CoD 1,2 and 4 were great. Strong SP and fun MP. Now, the series has stagnated, and it's nothing more than a laughing stock.

[Dragoonlordz]

FluffyScarf wrote...

More sales for mediocre products is only going to reinforce to the devs/publishers that it's okay to put half-arsed efforts into a big name title because you know it'll sell well regardless. Kind of like how CoD 1,2 and 4 were great. Strong SP and fun MP. Now, the series has stagnated, and it's nothing more than a laughing stock.

I personally never considered CoD 1 to 4 being good single player content. My stance remains unchanged.