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[Dragoonlordz]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

If you think Amazon will not continue to order stock of ME3 you are mistaken. All data we have points to the fact ME3 is selling better than all previous titles. You have no basis to say otherwise, and prophecy does not count as legitmate data based on what you think might happen in the future.

Unless EA negoiate a lower base price so that Amazon can still make a healthy profit they really have no incentive to do so. As long as something sells Amazon make money. What costs Amazon money is having things taking up space and gathering dust.

If EA do not wish to sell to them at a lower price, they won't. Amazon will increase their price retailing the product at to continue to make a profit. There is no evidence to say that the reason the price is low is because they cannot sell it at a higher price. They merely could be lowering the price due to the quantity they initially ordered allows them to make a larger profit and room to compete price wise. In the end you simply have no proof that individual retailers lowering their profit margins has or will have any effect on EA price they sell their stock to them. Literally no proof at all just random uninformed guessing with no facts to back up regarding the agreements between publisher and retailer. Fear mongers and drama queens with their own personal agendas based on their precious hurt feelings.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 04:21 .

[kbct]

Optimystic_X wrote...

VolusvsReaper wrote...

Its dropped 6 dollars on Amazon...OMG OMG RUN THE MARTIANS ARE COMING TIN FOIL HATS ACTIVATE!

If I had a sig, you would be in it.

You can get it for about $44 via a 3rd party vendor on Amazon (US) or $35 at Ebay. Both include shipping.

[durasteel]

nedpepper wrote...

I find it disheartening that you guys want to celebrate that this uproar has caused ME3 to suffer in sales. I just don't get it. This may the most cynical forum I've ever been to.

I guess most of us don't want to see this kind of crap happen again. Best case scenario would be for sales to tank in the short term, then surge when a propper ending is released via DLC. Punishing the failure of the shipped ending is only half of it, rewarding the correction is at least as important, if not more so.

[Dragoonlordz]

durasteel wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

I find it disheartening that you guys want to celebrate that this uproar has caused ME3 to suffer in sales. I just don't get it. This may the most cynical forum I've ever been to.

I guess most of us don't want to see this kind of crap happen again. Best case scenario would be for sales to tank in the short term, then surge when a propper ending is released via DLC. Punishing the failure of the shipped ending is only half of it, rewarding the correction is at least as important, if not more so.

Except all data we currently have access to shows short term as you put it sales are amazingly good. Which is why many on your side who did not like the endings have resorted to "Oh but in the future they are doomed!" instead of currently.

[durasteel]

slyguy200 wrote...

Fantasy you say... i call it an educated GUESS.

I would have called it LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE, because I am snarky.

[kbct]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
In the end you simply have no proof that individual retailers lowering their profit margins has or will have any effect on EA price they sell their stock to them.

You don't have proof either. You choose to believe the best case scenario. We don't.

[Dragoonlordz]

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
In the end you simply have no proof that individual retailers lowering their profit margins has or will have any effect on EA price they sell their stock to them.

You don't have proof either. You choose to believe the best case scenario. We don't.

Currently the sales data we do have even if just estimated backs up my stance while the only thing you have is fear mongering based on what you think will happen in the future and some possible few retailers lowering their profit margins.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 04:27 .

[kbct]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Except all data we currently have access to shows short term as you put it sales are amazingly good.

Week two and three were not good. Especially if you need to sell millions of copies to breakeven. There is revenue, there is cost, and there is profit.

[Farbautisonn]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Currently the sales data we do have even if just estimated backs up my stance while the only thing you have is fear mongering based on what you think will happen in the future and some possible few retailers lowering their profit margins.

-Did you have a background in spin too, mate? 

[Dragoonlordz]

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Except all data we currently have access to shows short term as you put it sales are amazingly good.

Week two and three were not good. Especially if you need to sell millions of copies to breakeven. There is revenue, there is cost, and there is profit.

What world do you live in? All 3 weeks it has out sold all previous titles based on that data? I did not see you moaning about how all those titles had "not good sales" at the numbers currently lower each week than this one. Face it, the only reason your saying they are magically "not good" now is because your precious feelings were hurt yet at the time those titles were out I bet if you liked them even though sold less each week, you would of said they were "great sales".

[Dragoonlordz]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Currently the sales data we do have even if just estimated backs up my stance while the only thing you have is fear mongering based on what you think will happen in the future and some possible few retailers lowering their profit margins.

-Did you have a background in spin too, mate? 

I like to base my statements on what we have not what we will have because what we will have noone here knows.

What we have is data (estimates) of sales which show very good sales *currently* and also a few retailers who have lowered their profit margin to sell some stock, some of which are actually in financial trouble (retailers including specifically one one the OP mentions).

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 04:35 .

[BadlyBrowned]

I no financial analyzer, but it seems to be the short term sales would have been significantly high because of all the pre-orders.

Either way, the only people who can say how ME3 is selling is EA/Bioware because they are the ones with the projections that they are trying to match. Doesn't really matter if you compare the ME3 sales to ME1/ME2 if their projections for ME3 are different anyways.

[kbct]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Except all data we currently have access to shows short term as you put it sales are amazingly good.

Week two and three were not good. Especially if you need to sell millions of copies to breakeven. There is revenue, there is cost, and there is profit.

What world do you live in? All 3 weeks it has out sold all previous titles based on that data? I did not see you moaning about how all those titles had "not good sales" at the numbers currently lower each week than this one.

Again, you don't know how much it cost to make ME3. Believe me, it cost more than ME1. Also, you don't know the profit margin on each unit sold. It's not the same when retail prices fall.

Also, there is more to this than just ME3 sales. There is DLC and the next game to consider as well.

[Dragoonlordz]

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Except all data we currently have access to shows short term as you put it sales are amazingly good.

Week two and three were not good. Especially if you need to sell millions of copies to breakeven. There is revenue, there is cost, and there is profit.

What world do you live in? All 3 weeks it has out sold all previous titles based on that data? I did not see you moaning about how all those titles had "not good sales" at the numbers currently lower each week than this one.

Again, you don't know how much it cost to make ME3. Believe me, it cost more than ME1. Also, you don't know the profit margin on each unit sold. It's not the same when retail prices fall.

Also, there is more to this than just ME3 sales. There is DLC and the next game to consider as well.

I notice how you ignored the second part of my comment, maybe because it is true?

[PluralAces]

if this game didnt have multiplayer i would have traded this game and the first two games weeks ago...

[slimgrin]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It'll go back up to $60. Trust me.

No it won't. If prices have dropped already you can expect more deals in the future. I remember the price for Arkham Asylum held it's $50 tag for a year at places like Walmart, Target, and Best Buy. 

[Dragoonlordz]

PluralAces wrote...

if this game didnt have multiplayer i would have traded this game and the first two games weeks ago...

Which is ironic given so many here (and wasa vast amount at the time), if got their way on that issue ranting on about how "Bioware should keep their MP out of SP games", you would not have MP to begin with. Listening to what the fans want does not always equal the right choice to make.

[DoctorEss]

Dragoonlordz wrote...


Except all data we currently have access to shows short term as you put it sales are amazingly good. Which is why many on your side who did not like the endings have resorted to "Oh but in the future they are doomed!" instead of currently.

80% drop in the second week is not "amazingly good".  Maybe you're looking at copies shipped, not actually sold.  SOLD.  Not "sold in".

[kbct]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

What we have is data (estimates) of sales which show very good sales *currently* and also a few retailers who have lowered their profit margin to sell some stock, some of which are actually in financial trouble (retailers including specifically one one the OP mentions).

YOU say they show very good sales. People can make their own judgments about the situation.

Also, Walmart, Amazon, and Ebay are not in financial trouble. Lower prices abound. It goes beyond Best Buy and your theory they're selling ME3 for cheap because they are in financial trouble.

[Dragoonlordz]

DoctorEss wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...


Except all data we currently have access to shows short term as you put it sales are amazingly good. Which is why many on your side who did not like the endings have resorted to "Oh but in the future they are doomed!" instead of currently.

80% drop in the second week is not "amazingly good".  Maybe you're looking at copies shipped, not actually sold.  SOLD.  Not "sold in".

What are you babbling about? Firstly was not 80% and was close to 70% which is what every single title they have ever made has dropped by in second week, secondly shipped has nothing to do with data I talked about when I was specifically talking about sold, not sold in not shipped.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 04:51 .