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Playing adept, Tali or EDI?


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Mentxi

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I just wanted to know what are the advantages of each squad member (I like both as characters). As Adept I really need someone who takes care of barriers and shields, overload is good but energy drain sounds even better. My third party member is Kaidan with reave and cryo blast.

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Jaysh

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I like Tali because of her combat drone.

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Tali has sabotage. And a shotgun

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Overload >>> Energy Drain on a squadmate. Overload is far better offensive power.

I'd not bother with either though. Liara + Javik/Kaidain + Adept Shep = biotic bomb every 2 seconds or so. It's insane.

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In my current Adept run, I go with Liara and Garrus/James. Amazing combo also, and I agree with Kronner, biotic bomb every 2 seconds rocks the house :-)

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I used Liara+Javik and biotic bombed everything. This time around I'm trying to self gimp and play an adept with James/Javik for more firepower. I would have used James and Garrus but on this import he died on the collector base in ME2.

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Playing adept - really just take anyone for story reasons, and set them on auto pilot.

Occasionally using "Q" and "E" if a specific target needs attention, but I hardly bothered with controlling them.

Out of Tali and EDI, I'd say EDI is definitely the more useful of the two. Decoy is a very handy power for drawing aggro away from you.

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You're better off using Liara and Javik  (assuming you have the From Cashes dlc). Liara Warp-throw, Javik dark channel-throw. Rinse and repeat: Biotic chain-explosions. Javik's dark channel also spreads to nearby targets after first one dies. Boom. Follow-up with another biotic explosion.

Warp or dark embrace + throw is much more powerful than overload, and even works against shielded targets.

Modifié par steamcamel, 27 mars 2012 - 08:20 .


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Don't worry about who you bring, other than for story reasons.

I mean, if you are using biotic combos it really doesn't matter who you bring, since you will be setting off biotic explosions every 3 to 5 seconds anyway.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 27 mars 2012 - 08:21 .


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Yeah, Adepts can easily solo ME3 on Insanity. There is little point to bring squadmates for combat, weapons are equally redundant.

EDI has funnier dialog imho, but Talis Sabotage is really cool against the Geth. Roll with the both of em if you cannot make up your mind.

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I'd go for EDI as decoy is really useful. Also, if you unlock reave and biotic grenades as bonus powers you'll have no trouble with barriers or shields whoever you take.

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As an adept on my insanity run I didn't bother with either unless they had to come along. I used Garrus specced for sniper rifle, and gave him the black widow. I also used Javik more often than not as my other (unless one of the other squad HAD to come, then he was the one switched) and I used him with the rifle he comes with in the DLC. With guns alone, Javik was able to usually whittle down their shields/barriers easily.

With powers, overload is a lot better. Energy Drain is nice, but it's nicer on the main character that you can enhance it. On Tali you don't see the benefit from the shield drain restore. And overload can take their shields out in one shot if specced right, Garrus was able to take care of them easy and stun/stagger the organics a bit after. For barriers, spec warp (since you're an adept) that will take their barriers down very easy. And use pistols/SMG that will let you have a 200% cast recharge. That's the big thing, faster you can warp, the faster you can get the barriers down. It usually only takes me 2 or 3 hits at most and I don't have to wait long at all for recast. I also took a lot of power enhancers for damage and armor.

When the barriers are down and only armor is left, this pair was awesome for me as well. Hit them with Javik's dark channel, then throw a warp and you'll biotic explosion about half it's armor right off. Then throw warp on it again first, and use throw to cause another biotic explosion. Repeat if necessary but for me it took two, maybe 3 at most to eat through brutes, banshees, harvesters, Atlas, etc Added with Javik's rifle and Garrus's sniper shots this trio did a ton of damage and fast.


If you don't have Javik and you really want to bring either of the 2, I would bring EDI for incinerate for armor, and an extra overload. Tali is pretty useless huge damage burst wise unless she's fighting Geth.



Edit:  I also took Stasis as my bonus and enhanced it into a bubble.  You can statis any unarmored target (WITH shields and Barriers included (phantoms, marauders etc) then throw a warp on them to biotic explode their shields/barriers away fast and often do a bit of damage too.

Modifié par Aurien, 27 mars 2012 - 09:54 .


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On insanity I found Tali pretty much useless except in the levels with Geth.

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According to what I've read, Tali is apparently more durable in a fight than EDI, which doesn't surprise me, given how tough she was in ME2. Take that with a pinch of salt, though.

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Richard 060 wrote...

According to what I've read, Tali is apparently more durable in a fight than EDI, which doesn't surprise me, given how tough she was in ME2. Take that with a pinch of salt, though.


She is more durable but her powers aren't as good. Since you are fighting reapers and cereberus troops for almost all the game. Her only useful powers for these enemies are drone and energy drain. Overload and incinerate are much better.

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Thetri wrote...

Richard 060 wrote...

According to what I've read, Tali is apparently more durable in a fight than EDI, which doesn't surprise me, given how tough she was in ME2. Take that with a pinch of salt, though.


She is more durable but her powers aren't as good. Since you are fighting reapers and cereberus troops for almost all the game. Her only useful powers for these enemies are drone and energy drain. Overload and incinerate are much better.


I have come to like sabotage as it makes turrets and atlas mech more vunerable.
Also Vega is durable in a fight because of lots of hp and shields, he can deal with both armor and shields if you spec his grenades to do so.

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Feirefiz1972 wrote...

Thetri wrote...

Richard 060 wrote...

According to what I've read, Tali is apparently more durable in a fight than EDI, which doesn't surprise me, given how tough she was in ME2. Take that with a pinch of salt, though.


She is more durable but her powers aren't as good. Since you are fighting reapers and cereberus troops for almost all the game. Her only useful powers for these enemies are drone and energy drain. Overload and incinerate are much better.


I have come to like sabotage as it makes turrets and atlas mech more vunerable.
Also Vega is durable in a fight because of lots of hp and shields, he can deal with both armor and shields if you spec his grenades to do so.



I usually drop engineers before they deploy turrets. Atlases are easy enough with me and Kaidan/EDI/Garrus spamming overload until its shields are down. After that me and Liara spam it with warp and throw, never needed Tali for them.

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Kronner wrote...

Overload >>> Energy Drain on a squadmate. Overload is far better offensive power.

I'd not bother with either though. Liara + Javik/Kaidain + Adept Shep = biotic bomb every 2 seconds or so. It's insane.


This. As a Sentinel using Warp I ALWAYS wanted Liara for biotic bombs. As an Adept I would as well, and if you have Kaidan you are good to go with Overload/Warp redundancy.

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EDI has more.... Padding :P

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Jaysh wrote...

I like Tali because of her combat drone.


This. I love the combat drone.

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I always pick Garrus. Always. With Javelin and Overload he is perfect to cover an Adept. Always order him to attack that enemy you don't want to be bothered with(like Nemesis).

For a second squad mate, depends on your enemy. Against Reapers I use James Vega, he gets 1200\\1200 of life\\shields plus fortification. Reaper forces are relentless and stupid, so equip him with Revenant. Enemies just keep coming to his aim. Also, Vega can take a brute heads-on and survive.

Against Geth I like to bring Tali, for obvious reasons. Against Cerberus, doesn't really matter they suck the big one...

Garrus' overload is usually enough to take care of shield but I keep Energy Drain as bonus power. Avoid to use it tough, as an Adept, cooldown on a tech power is not exactly short...

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Mozts wrote...

I always pick Garrus. Always. With Javelin and Overload he is perfect to cover an Adept. Always order him to attack that enemy you don't want to be bothered with(like Nemesis).

For a second squad mate, depends on your enemy. Against Reapers I use James Vega, he gets 12001200 of lifeshields plus fortification. Reaper forces are relentless and stupid, so equip him with Revenant. Enemies just keep coming to his aim. Also, Vega can take a brute heads-on and survive.

Against Geth I like to bring Tali, for obvious reasons. Against Cerberus, doesn't really matter they suck the big one...

Garrus' overload is usually enough to take care of shield but I keep Energy Drain as bonus power. Avoid to use it tough, as an Adept, cooldown on a tech power is not exactly short...


Garrus and Liara, this team with a Adept or Sentinel makes Insanity easy.

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Gnoster wrote...

In my current Adept run, I go with Liara and Garrus/James. Amazing combo also, and I agree with Kronner, biotic bomb every 2 seconds rocks the house :-)


I also go Liara Garrus too.  Stasis from Liara is very useful and Garrus uses a Widow and has Overload.  I also take Drain Shield. Is there a better way to deal with shield from the extra abilities?

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EDI is a keeper. Her Overload is great for shields, but her Incinerate utterly decimates huge amounts of armor when leveled as such. She's a banshee killer.

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when taking javik and Liara, what has to be thrown first for biotic explosion?