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#101
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Exicuren wrote...

M2J Revan wrote...

Exicuren wrote...

I liked vega, but the problem is that he doesn't have enough background story like ashley or even javik (and he is a DLC character), another thing to point is that it should have been posible to romance him, honestly, femshep doesn't have much to choose in ME3.


He was in a short comic, and there is supposed to be an animated movie about his mission against the Collectors. Unless the movie falls through, you will get your wish of a more detailed background.

As far as other new Characters went... As much as I liked Kelly, Samantha was a much better, more in depth character. I definitely prefer Traynor as my yeoman over Chambers.

Steve was a good guy, I liked his character- though he did seem to be thrown in there as a LI for male Shep.



The problem is that it's still the same mission that shepard heard from him, when you speak to ashley, she tells you her likes and dislikes, her family history, but qhen you try to get something out of vega he doesn't tell you much, that's the only thing i didn't like.

And i still think that he should have been a LI for femshep, she doesn't have much, if you kill kaidan and garrus and then romance another character, she just ends up lonely because thane dies, jacob moves on, and in the case garrus didn't die and you didn't romance him, you can't have him as LI, so she ends up lonely (if you want her to be heterosexual), not like maleshep who still has Liara if everything goes wrong.


Femshep still has Liara if everything goes wrong...

assuming your femshep is into that.

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Exicuren wrote...

M2J Revan wrote...

Exicuren wrote...

I liked vega, but the problem is that he doesn't have enough background story like ashley or even javik (and he is a DLC character), another thing to point is that it should have been posible to romance him, honestly, femshep doesn't have much to choose in ME3.


He was in a short comic, and there is supposed to be an animated movie about his mission against the Collectors. Unless the movie falls through, you will get your wish of a more detailed background.

As far as other new Characters went... As much as I liked Kelly, Samantha was a much better, more in depth character. I definitely prefer Traynor as my yeoman over Chambers.

Steve was a good guy, I liked his character- though he did seem to be thrown in there as a LI for male Shep.



The problem is that it's still the same mission that shepard heard from him, when you speak to ashley, she tells you her likes and dislikes, her family history, but qhen you try to get something out of vega he doesn't tell you much, that's the only thing i didn't like.

And i still think that he should have been a LI for femshep, she doesn't have much, if you kill kaidan and garrus and then romance another character, she just ends up lonely because thane dies, jacob moves on, and in the case garrus didn't die and you didn't romance him, you can't have him as LI, so she ends up lonely (if you want her to be heterosexual), not like maleshep who still has Liara if everything goes wrong.


Technically, Liara isn't female, despite the feminine pronouns used to describe her, as her species is monogendered, but I do get your point.

I honestly didn't see the need for him as a LI myself and laughed extremely hard when Shep called him out on his flirting. Watching him talk all that big game only to choke when called on to play was one of the funniest things I've seen in the series.

He DOES talk about his family, though not in the same amount of depth as Ash. Something about his uncle might have been nice, but was unneccessary, imo. I am curious as to why he is estranged from his father. Again, that's also an unneccessary tidbit of info, especially since he isn't a LI.

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He was OK, but If I were Bioware, I would have just taken the time and money given to writing and voicing Vega to the ME2 characters.

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He's a pretty cool guy. A good addition to Garrus and Wrex. I don't know about the hate but sure his physique could use a little less touch. He looks like he can crush someone's head with his barehands.

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Dunno, I actually liked him.

Initially, I thought I was going to hate him - his whole image just strikes you as a dumb brute. He also had it tough being introduced this late on, competing with so many loved characters. However, the character actually has some real depth, funny quirks (the gambling etc.) and genuine thoughts on things within the story of both a political and philosophical nature.

I guess Vega is an example of not judging a book by its cover! And on the flip-side I thought his physique was interesting in one way: I'd like to see him fight a Krogan!

Can't wait for ending to be fixed so I can do a 2nd playthrough - please make it be true!

Modifié par Myrmedus, 27 mars 2012 - 10:02 .


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Vega is a cool guy... Hes very funny too

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Personally, out of all the generic human soldier characters I think he's the best. Of course compared to the likes Kaiden and Ashley pretty much everyone's full of personality.

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I liked Vega! He's just someone introduced late into the story and who also isn't given much of a chance to develop, so it's the writings fault and not the character's that he wasn't as interesting as others. Most people were used to the older squad mates and would have rather had one of them around, but I liked the new faces. It was refreshing and made me feel more like I was playing ME 3 instead of 1 or 2 again.

Plus, he's cute and funny. :D He has a good attitude despite being a little rough around the edges, young and sorta brash, and he cares about his job.

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PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Vega is one hot latino. He is so cute when femshep calls him out on his flirting and he gets flustered. Why can't I jump his bones!!?!?!??


This, and also, I was in the military, he may look like your standard issue douche but he's deeper then some of the men I worked with and hotter too Image IPB

I wish we'd had more back story on him though and I didn't use him because my femshep is a soldier but I talked to him between missions.

I would give him up to get an old squad member from ME2 but would prefer to keep him (romance him or something Image IPB) and bring old ME 2 squadmates back to my crew .


LOL. And women complain about guys only being interested in their body!

I swear this just confirms it! Women's hotness scale for men is simply directly proportional to the man's lean mass. Doesn't matter if a guy's face looks like it's been smashed with a hammer (not that Vega looks terrible but he's not a "looker") as long as he's got the pecs - just put a paper bag over that ****, eh girls?

:lol:

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Vega was a great addition...much better then Jacob was.

Vega is not the one that gets the hate....just look at the post above me. The reason those two are hated so much is because they have more then 3 fingers and toes are not blue and have the label "human" attached to them.

:)

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There was no hate here for Vega. 

1. I felt Vega was one that actually had Shepard's back when it hit the fan.
2. I enjoyed his good natured banter.
3. It was good not having to heal him up every 30 seconds in some of the heavier fighting.
4. Vega had enough quirks to be interesting, but was not a pain.
5. Very good voice acting.

Feelings about other characters mentioned in this thread (Optional reading)
Jacob on the other hand tended to have conversations that felt forced.  It was like he was afraid he was going to be shanghai'd to serve on the Normandy.  It was obvious Jacob wanted to be elsewhere.

I was glad to see Grunt as leader of Aralak Company, and  I was happy enough without him as part of my crew in ME3.  Since the beginning, conversations with Grunt always made me feel like I was disarming a bomb.  One could not relax around him.  He was handy in a fight though.

It was good seeing Urdnot Wrex again, but I understand why he could not come back,  It would be hard for him to lead his people from the Normandy.

Ashley/Kaiden: Left me feeling both Virmire survivors were selected to be Spectres as they were someone Udina could control.
Ashley never seemed to trust Shepard when they talked, but seemed to busy to talk most of the time even as a Love Interest.
Kaiden: Seemed consistantly depressed, but was at least willing to talk about his issuses.

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Raanz wrote...

Vega was a great addition...much better then Jacob was.

Vega is not the one that gets the hate....just look at the post above me. The reason those two are hated so much is because they have more then 3 fingers and toes are not blue and have the label "human" attached to them.

:)


I'll have to agree on this. Kaidan and Ashley aren't the most interesting I'll agree, but  the amount of hate they recieve because "human = generic" and isn't as interesting/cool/different as an alien is weird to me. :S

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Venturisection wrote...

because he was in wing commander 


Freddie Prinze jnr. couldn't command fries at a drive-thru.


(not mine, but I'm fond of it)

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Myrmedus wrote...

LOL. And women complain about guys only being interested in their body!

I swear this just confirms it! Women's hotness scale for men is simply directly proportional to the man's lean mass. Doesn't matter if a guy's face looks like it's been smashed with a hammer (not that Vega looks terrible but he's not a "looker") as long as he's got the pecs - just put a paper bag over that ****, eh girls?

:lol:


LOL, busted Image IPB I think in this ME universe where every womans outfit accentuates, well... not her intelligence Image IPB, women want eye candy too.  And his face isn't bad enough to where I'd need a paper bag over it Image IPB

#115
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I love him!

He's a bit of a teddy bear.

But I think some people don't like him because he takes space that could be occupied by an ME2 character. Understandable, especially if it's an LI.

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I thought James was really cute. I liked him much more than Kaidan, god Kaidan was even more whiny in this game.

Modifié par Eterna5, 27 mars 2012 - 11:04 .


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Vega is a good, if a weak addition, much like Jacob was in 2. It's not really his fault, he came in late in the series. Like Kaiden/Ashley (whom I also view as a weak additions but grew over time), he really doesn't... fit in?

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Red Dust wrote...

Jimmy Vega's not good. He's not bad. He's inert.

He's a marine that took it unto himself to tag along with Shepard and crew. He knows Shepard -somehow-, though we're never told why and left to assume. He likes to give inappropriate nicknames to his superiors, he's never in uniform, the last time he had a command he got everyone killed... and he's somehow being scouted by N7 for recruitment. Because this is totally the profile of an elite soldier..

He's a blank space that's taking up a spot that could be occupied by a more interesting character.


Awesome^:o

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I agree alot of hate for Vega comes from the fact his human. Imagine if Garrus was human, he would still be funny but everyone would still call him boring. Being male and human is hard work in the Mass Effect series.

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mokbass87 wrote...

I couldn't warm to him really,after i was able to remove him from my squad i did and never added him again,perhaps when i replay the game i will give him a chance and see what happens :)

You could get rid of him? Not that I would I need him (frag grenades)

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You know, I liked Vega just fine, I thought his charecter was a decent addition. I just wish more ME2 charecters had a more prominent role in the game or were team members still, that was kind of disappointing.

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I hate him because of the forced friendship. But at least maleshep doesn't have to be subjected to the forced flirt between femshep and vega. That was just unbelievable. Sucks for femshep players who don't like him and have to watch the auto dialogue make their Shepard flirt with him.

-Polite

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Admiral H. Cain wrote...

sydranark wrote...

To clarify my "Mass Effecsey Shore" comment: Vega gambles a lot, partys a lot, and lets be honest, he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. That said, I don't hate the guy. He amuses me.


You've just described your average grunt.

For what it's worth, I had three close(ish) friends (and the cousin I mentioned) join the Marines straight out of high school, and they love to party and drink A LOT, much more than they used to. I spent the weekend in Vegas with two of them three years ago when they were still in, and whoa... Let's just say I wasn't even close to keeping up with them.

I can see how you could turn that into a Jersey Shore thing, though, considering he does kind of look the part.


Haaa you spent the weekend in Vegas with a bunch of Vegas! I couldn't resist. 

But anyway, I can't apply the same to your cousin or friends since I don't know them. All I am saying is that the way bioware portrayed Vega was an insubordinate guy who's kinda slow when it comes to decision making and such. He also loves to gamble - and is maybe an addict; plus the whole party and drinking thing. Don't get me wrong, I believe that if you work hard you should party hard. But Vega doesn't seem like he deserves it. 

Plus there's no depth to is character. It's kind of whatever you see on the surface is what you get. Sure, he had one mission that he led to disaster... but that's as far as we know about him. Other than that, he's nothing but a typical bro who likes to chill and do bro things. Again, I'm not saying I hate any of this. I just find it amusing. Also, compared to all of the other characters with interesting backgrounds or skills, Vega is nothing but (like you said) a grunt. You can teach a monkey how to fire a weapon. 

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Didn't like him before playing the game. But after playing it I can say he's ok. He's got his own personality.

lol'd at his speech with garrus in the normady's kitchen

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I was actually disappointed he wasn't fleshed out more, because I liked him. I especially liked him on Javik's recruitment mission "Hey, I just like Dinosaurs". I couldn't help but to crack up.

Then again, I stopped taking him on missions once I got Garrus back, so he just kind of sat in the armory quipping back and forth with Cortez for the rest of the game. His back and forth with Garrus was also funny.  

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