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[Plasma Prestige]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Habs25 wrote...

It's not an incomplete game, ME3 is an ending in its own right. The way ME3 finished was purposely done in order to implement future content. It is the last game in the series, so it makes sense to have big plans for the future of ME3. I see some people are already upset at that tweet... so now we don't want a change or clarification? Is the tweet still not reliable? I guess it makes sense for them to tweet it then never deliver on it... not. This is good news, and evident after paying attention during the ending - there is more. More ME3 - GOOD!

My essential problem is that people who don't have internet connectivity on their consoles are inherently screwed.

DLC is sold at game stores now too. 

[Troy Sayers]

oh hey look a troll

[Mojenator12345]

Talon2000uk wrote...

You know the more I see what Bioware is doing the more I'm seeing great PR at work. Over the last couple of days the story has been dying down on here and in the media and now, BANG! we have some "Information" that brings the story back into the media glare, you can bet that this will be on Kotaku and Forbes tomorrow when this thread reaches 200 pages.

Interesting.  The only impression I'm getting is that they are not taking any of this seriously and are going to go ahead  with whatever DLC releases they had planned pre-release.  Maybe they'll add in a few extra lines of dialog to retcon the godchild into the story a bit earlier.  Maybe there's be an extra 30 seconds of cinematics at the end of the game to provide "closure".  But basically, they're not going to fix the end.

[VanishedFaces]

Guys, it was a social experiment! Honest.

[Fisto The Sexbot]

chengthao wrote...

so they shipped out an incomplete game?

To be fair inconclusive endings aren't that uncommon in video games. Half-Life 2 had a pretty WTF ending (granted it wasn't meant to be the end of a trilogy, though).

[Alexraptor1]

This better be free, or theres a new major ****storm on the horizon.

[Il Divo]

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

chengthao wrote...

so they shipped out an incomplete game?

To be fair inconclusive endings aren't that uncommon in video games. Half-Life 2 had a pretty WTF ending (granted it wasn't meant to be the end of a trilogy, though).

That's really the issue. Halo 2's ending was kinda cruddy, but there was always the implied promise "Hey, we're not done yet", so we got to see how the story came together. As much as Bioware is saying this was always planned, Ray's statement he released a few days ago indicates more than anything that this is in direct response to criticism released by the fans.

[OdanUrr]

chris fenton wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Fdingo wrote...

https://twitter.com/...769555774709761

Am I reading too much into this reply?

Yes.

On a related topic, didn't they say they'd release DLC next year? As in 2013?

It's gonna take em 8+ months to release a DLC? With EA? Nah, it's releasing tommorrow, more likely. 

Casey Hudson said, "throughout next year" here.

[Tazzmission]

OdanUrr wrote...

chris fenton wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Fdingo wrote...

https://twitter.com/...769555774709761

Am I reading too much into this reply?

Yes.

On a related topic, didn't they say they'd release DLC next year? As in 2013?

It's gonna take em 8+ months to release a DLC? With EA? Nah, it's releasing tommorrow, more likely. 

Casey Hudson said, "throughout next year" here.

dude its a typo.

[Tazzmission]

Alexraptor1 wrote...

This better be free, or theres a new major ****storm on the horizon.

oh shut up get a life and be gratefull you get anything at all

[Mylia Stenetch]

chengthao wrote...

so they shipped out an incomplete game?

Most games now a days from what I have seen are shipping out incomplete, so they can gain more profits via DLC. This is one "solution" to piracy acts etc whatever the Distributors would like to call it.

The last game I played Rage was horrid for this. In the first map, you find a guy next to a sewer entrance, talking to him, he just spews about mutants in the sewer. Once clicking the entrance it states you need the DLC to enter this, and asks if you want to buy it now. AFAIK that was in since day 1 also.

[kbct]

I don't buy it. Why would BioWare troll its fan base? Why let sales suffer in the short-run with negative reviews and negative word of mouth? Isn't the fiscal year-end in a couple days?

[Alexraptor1]

Tazzmission wrote...

Alexraptor1 wrote...

This better be free, or theres a new major ****storm on the horizon.

oh shut up get a life and be gratefull you get anything at all

Grateful? you serious?
I should be grateful because I had the "privilige" of spending $100 on an incomplete game?

Yeah right...

[GhostV9]

Tazzmission wrote...

Alexraptor1 wrote...

This better be free, or theres a new major ****storm on the horizon.

oh shut up get a life and be gratefull you get anything at all

Oh shut up and learn to spell grateful.

[philippe willaume]

Il Divo wrote...

Dezdecaydance wrote...

Oh god this fanbase is worse than the mortal kombat fanbase....shut up u don't care about the ending...u like it...ur just scared u will have to pay for dlc.this has been the plan IMO.so u all keep getting on here saying I spent "x" amount of money on an incomplete game...well DAMN I guess ME2 was incomplete as well huh?cause we didn't get the arrival dlc till months after me2 was released.omg ten bucks!!!its the end of the world.yea that's right go and cry about how me was unfinished as well.

You're 0/2, I'm afraid.

You see, I hate the ending and I don't care about paying for dlc. Do you really want to know how much I'm willing to shell out for this particular piece, assuming it's good?

amen Il divo.
Dez  i am affraid you might have to get your trolling up a notch my good man. you current effort seems to be on the par with ME3 ending.
phil

[Tazzmission]

kbct wrote...

I don't buy it. Why would BioWare troll its fan base? Why let sales suffer in the short-run with negative reviews and negative word of mouth? Isn't the fiscal year-end in a couple days?

think of it like this


bioware ships game with incomplete ending


fans rage and return game


bioware releases dlc


fans go out and rebuy a new copy in order to acess the multiplayer


to those who did take  there games back imo shouldve wated until the dlc was announced because now those same fans have to re purchase the title they just sold


now before you or anyone twists what i just said around i dont think bioware did this to troll i do however believe they did rush to meet the 3-6-12 deadline because they already had a 1 year pushback

Modifié par Tazzmission, 28 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[OdanUrr]

Tazzmission wrote...

dude its a typo.

My point exactly. People can make mistakes and/or communicate poorly.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Quit your b*tchin', lets just wait and see what comes in April and just enjoy what we got.

[Fisto The Sexbot]

Il Divo wrote...

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

chengthao wrote...

so they shipped out an incomplete game?

To be fair inconclusive endings aren't that uncommon in video games. Half-Life 2 had a pretty WTF ending (granted it wasn't meant to be the end of a trilogy, though).

That's really the issue. Halo 2's ending was kinda cruddy, but there was always the implied promise "Hey, we're not done yet", so we got to see how the story came together. As much as Bioware is saying this was always planned, Ray's statement he released a few days ago indicates more than anything that this is in direct response to criticism released by the fans.

From the ending (having just finished the game) I got the vibe that they still had something in mind for the series anyway. Like when you see your squad that was just with you when the Normandy was stranded. Crap ending maybe, but I think it may not be a design oversight (too obvious to anyone who's played the game).

I think that cut to white screen before Harbinger is about to hit you is pretty telling; indoctrination theory or not a lot of things after that could be part of a dream sequence.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Tazzmission wrote...

Alexraptor1 wrote...

This better be free, or theres a new major ****storm on the horizon.

oh shut up get a life and be gratefull you get anything at all

"Gratefulness" is only logical when you're being done a favour.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 28 mars 2012 - 12:37 .

[Chaoswind]

Habs25 wrote...

It's funny how expansion packs were not accused of trying to make more money. DLC is basically broken down expansions, they are cheaper and easier to obtain. In the end you get as much content as you do with an expansion for roughly the same price. But it doesn't make sense to actually make sense on internet these days

Wrong, call me crazy but old expancions did cost more than DLC today, but you could say that most of the time the expansion gave you a content that was almost equal to the finished game.

And back then companies had to pay for CD and distribution, now they do it at almost no cost... 

[kbct]

Tazzmission wrote...

kbct wrote...

I don't buy it. Why would BioWare troll its fan base? Why let sales suffer in the short-run with negative reviews and negative word of mouth? Isn't the fiscal year-end in a couple days?

think of it like this

bioware ships game with incomplete ending

fans rage and return game

bioware releases dlc

fans go out and rebuy a new copy in order to acess the multiplayer

to those who did there games back imo shouldve wated until the dlc was announced because now those same fans have to re purchase the title they just sold

The goal is to maximize sales. People will be annoyed (as I'm sure there are even people in this thread that are annoyed). You don't maximize sales by trolling the customers. Do you think this tactic is a net-positive for sales? Not from the evidence I've seen. It would be a major gambit on BioWare's part. Why would BioWare roll the dice?

Modifié par kbct, 28 mars 2012 - 12:38 .

[Siegdrifa]

Fdingo wrote...

https://twitter.com/...769555774709761

Am I reading too much into this reply?

I'm not the kind of guy to get enthusiasted by few words unless:
1-clear statement from official sources (check)
2-summurize what i'm expecting (uncheck)

But if to do a little synthax analyse.
1-"We never said we were changing it "        tweet related to the ending
2-"We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3"   could only be related to subject (the ending)
3-"It isn't a response-It's been in the works"    Refering to Mr Muzyka statement ? but denying it influenced their plan as it seems they where already planyng something, and the "big plan" imply something huge (not especialy about huge contant, but making something out of ME3 memorable in the longer run).

So, congrat Bioware you got my hope up by 0.7%
I think the mass effect twitt is good if you want to give feedbad and anything related to the game it self as we know it, but it is not the kind of source i would interpret to my liking on he sensitive subject and future content they can't talk about yet (new info on april, not before).

So, wait and see for me, people who are getting their hope up too much could face another let down.
If it's going to be a good news, then it will be a good (awsome) surprise, if it isn't, well, touching the bottom wasn't that far so it won't hurt much more.

Just my 2 cents.

[I_Jedi]

Bioware - "To hell with this!"