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#251
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y u no tell us about the ending expansion :(

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Chris Priestly wrote...

People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


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They fondle our triggers then blame our guns...

back into deep depression I go.

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Madness! This is going to get so much worse!

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Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


:devil:


Wait, that makes no sense. Read the tweet again:

We never said (We as in Bioware) we were changing it (The ending) :) We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3 (This is in response to what is said about changing the endings) It (Changing the endings) isn't a response-It's been in the works (DLC)

How can anyone read that and think

 "Oh, this tweet, that is a response about the endings, has nothing to do with the endings".

If i am wrong, please explain more carefully.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


:devil:


I have to  ask, mr. Priestly, does it ever get bothersome having to moderate and clarify every iota of information that comes cross-sourced in regards of company strategy? Not going on a "oh PR-nonsense" bandwagon or anything, but it just strikes me as particulary exhausting on having to clarify and modulate the tone on just about every piece of information that regards the 'controversy'. 

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Mass Effect has tweeted several times that they aren't changing, just adding closure and clarity.

That's what the twitters have said. Multiple times.

That's all I'm saying.

right, except i never used the word changed.. so why do you have to "just say" anything to me about that?

you do know that you are taking the words closure and clarity and assuming that means 5 minutes of text, when it could just as well mean an hour long dlc right?

there was never a "just" before closure and clarity either. You have to read these things like an intelligent person. At present time. Closure and clarity can mean anything. We DON'T know yet.


Oh, sweet mother of mercy...


All I am telling you is what Bioware has said.

That is it. Nothing more, nothing less. Understand? Quit reading so goddamn far into what I'm not saying.

then dont quote me. i didnt need to hear this from you. i know what was said

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Scoob wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


:devil:


Wait, that makes no sense. Read the tweet again:

We never said (We as in Bioware) we were changing it (The ending) :) We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3 (This is in response to what is said about changing the endings) It (Changing the endings) isn't a response-It's been in the works (DLC)

How can anyone read that and think

 "Oh, this tweet, that is a response about the endings, has nothing to do with the endings".

If i am wrong, please explain more carefully.

I seriously doubt Bioware is carefully hiding messages in their words. It seems to me like some people are just determined to spin everything they say.

:(

#258
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InsaneAzrael wrote...

Krushiev01 wrote...

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You seriously are barking up the wrong f**king tree.  Calm down a bit.

You... Me...  We agree, get over yourself.  Stop looking for an argument where there isn't one.

Or do I really have to explain where I'm coming from so five year olds can understand me?

Guess I will, seeing as you will just poke some more...  The whole "From Ashes" thing, really should have been included in all editions... For starters.  If the tweets allege that this was all planned, and IF it was all a big publicity stunt to generate buzz, the epilogue better be free, with some additional content for grief and suffering.

Otherwise folks like you, folks like me, and anyone else who "held the line", or believed in the "Indoc Theory", or the golden pony theory, or whatever floats their damn boat will do a 180 and burn these forums down to the ground with the hate and vitriol equalling the power of a thousand suns.

The fact is, look at ME 2, and all the additional content that we paid for.  You don't think they're going to do the same?  I found LotSB and Arrival to be pretty damn fun.  I guarantee that they'll do the same for ME 3.

The problem though, is the ending that was shoveled down our collective throats.  "If" there's an upcoming DLC, whatever it is, better be free.  And for cripes sake, clean up the mess that's the ending we have now (or at least explain it in some frigging good detail too). 

Once that is satisfied, they can add whatever content they want, including optional or wild arsed endings... Personally, I would have had my FemShep ride the damn Crucible all the way to the Citadel (with Magboots on, of course) bypassing the whole damn "Hammer" plan... (Do-do-do-do...do-do..do-do.. Can't touch this).

If you're still bitter over a possible publicity stunt, then no-one can help you.  My suggestion, grab a cold beer (I'll join you... Here, have one on me), chill and watch from the sidelines....

Until then, I'm suspicious, and if they burn us by charging for a proper ending that explains WTF happened...  Trust me, I'll be standing right beside you, back to raging.


Not channeling the rage at you man, it's cool.
I'm not as bitter as you perceive me to be (although I am bitter, like that beer I am drinking with you on the sidelines http://en.wikipedia....i/Bitter_(beer))

Good to see you have the fire in ya, for a second I thought you were mad, brah.. :P

If BW delivers (I have my doubts, due to EA), then we can breathe easy
and say "Yep... They got us good..." and talk about it some more.


Although that aint my bag. If Bioware delivers, they have some "Sorry" to add to their April's fool joke. If this were taxes they were collecting, I predict a riot.


Understood, and sorry for coming down on you that hard. :bandit: Not mad, just "clarifying"  you know... SPECULATION FOR ALL ain't exactly my thing :lol:

And /agree on all fronts.

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I Soya I wrote...

Sorry if this has been posted, but I just had a right place right time moment on the Mass Effect twitter feed.

 @masseffect @PatrickWeekes did you feel pressured to change the ending, Isn't it important to stick to your guns on some things?

@satootaku We never said we were changing it :) We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3. It isn't a response-It's been in the works


That's a tweet that surely inspires lots of speculation :)

On one hand he indicates that BW never said they are "changing" the ending.  I guess that leaves clarification & closure open as those may not qualify as changes.

On the other hand saying they've always had big plans for ME3 and what they're doing isn't a response but seems to have been planned seems like BW wanted to "indoctrinate the fans".

Then again this is the same guy that claims his Penny Arcade account got hacked / spoofed / whatever so if the same hackers are just having more fun I'm not sure if the tweet can be trusted to be from the source it claims ....

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Scoob wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


:devil:


Wait, that makes no sense. Read the tweet again:

We never said (We as in Bioware) we were changing it (The ending) :) We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3 (This is in response to what is said about changing the endings) It (Changing the endings) isn't a response-It's been in the works (DLC)

How can anyone read that and think

 "Oh, this tweet, that is a response about the endings, has nothing to do with the endings".

If i am wrong, please explain more carefully.


well mass effect feed also said just a week ago that they have no plans to expand upon the ending.  That was also fixed by the community managers shortly after.  

#261
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I find it nearly impossible to believe that a company that has given me the greatest gaming moments i can remember in gaming history (i still have goosebumps thinking of Revan taking off his helmet in the reveal) could fall so low with this ending and call it final without having a trick up their sleeves.

I think Bioware knew all this was going to happen, indeed wanted it to, to pull off a genius gaming move. I think they wanted to indoctrinate the player, they wanted to create a real ME to life situation. Think about it

Shepard and Crew = The take back movement, rallying against seemingly impossible odds
Cerberus = Those who like the ending and back it 100% and don't want it changed, because they accept what is given to them as truth without question because it came from...
Reapers = Bioware (not meant as an insult at all, i think those at Bioware would like being compared to a product of their own creation that is just massive in scope and meaning)
Harbinger = Lead writer? Sorry i forget who that is.

Hell it wouldn't surprise me if all the Bioware staff had Reaper nicknames...

Stanley which one are you?

#262
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Mesmurae wrote...

Scoob wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


:devil:


Wait, that makes no sense. Read the tweet again:

We never said (We as in Bioware) we were changing it (The ending) :) We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3 (This is in response to what is said about changing the endings) It (Changing the endings) isn't a response-It's been in the works (DLC)

How can anyone read that and think

 "Oh, this tweet, that is a response about the endings, has nothing to do with the endings".

If i am wrong, please explain more carefully.

I seriously doubt Bioware is carefully hiding messages in their words. It seems to me like some people are just determined to spin everything they say.

:(

we wouldn't have to assume anything if they spoke clearly

#263
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Bioware needs to get this PR mess fixed, it is making things worse.

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Iwillbeback wrote...

I don't know what to think, I think Mass effect 3 is the last Bioware game I am going to buy.



exactly what I'm thinking too.

Originally wanted to pick up the Dragon Age series from the beginning.

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I'm just going to give BioWare the benefit of the doubt that they have no PR support and can't get their story straight.

Chris, this is in reference to the Dr's post saying something was to be announced in April that would be a "compromise" between the fans and BioWare's artistic integrity.

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Tiax Rules All wrote...

we wouldn't have to assume anything if they spoke clearly


I really don't think they can be any more clear than they already are.

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Tiax Rules All wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Mass Effect has tweeted several times that they aren't changing, just adding closure and clarity.

That's what the twitters have said. Multiple times.

That's all I'm saying.

right, except i never used the word changed.. so why do you have to "just say" anything to me about that?

you do know that you are taking the words closure and clarity and assuming that means 5 minutes of text, when it could just as well mean an hour long dlc right?

there was never a "just" before closure and clarity either. You have to read these things like an intelligent person. At present time. Closure and clarity can mean anything. We DON'T know yet.


Oh, sweet mother of mercy...


All I am telling you is what Bioware has said.

That is it. Nothing more, nothing less. Understand? Quit reading so goddamn far into what I'm not saying.

then dont quote me. i didnt need to hear this from you. i know what was said


Oh my god. You are the most difficult person I have ever had the displeasure of talking to.

My initial post to you?

Simply to say that they made an announcement about the ending a week ago. How in the bloody freakin' hell did you manage to drag it to this?

This is the first time in a very long time that I have become so agitated in a forum discussion. Good job.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


:devil:


You guys all have NDA agreements you had to sign, didn't you.

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DOYOURLABS wrote...

I'm just going to give BioWare the benefit of the doubt that they have no PR support and can't get their story straight.

Chris, this is in reference to the Dr's post saying something was to be announced in April that would be a "compromise" between the fans and BioWare's artistic integrity.


They can't use PR anymore. They don't have anyone else to throw at us.

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TheMadBlimper wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.


:devil:


You guys all have NDA agreements you had to sign, didn't you.


COUNT on it my friend, pretty much anyone related to a game developer/publisher is under NDA, especially community managers.

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

Oh my god. You are the most difficult person I have ever had the displeasure of talking to.

My initial post to you?

Simply to say that they made an announcement about the ending a week ago. How in the bloody freakin' hell did you manage to drag it to this?

This is the first time in a very long time that I have become so agitated in a forum discussion. Good job.

u mad now?

im not aggitated, just wondering why you are still talking directly at me even though you even said you were just stating random info that had nothing to do with me in a quote.

was i not supposed to respond to you quoting me?

I dont understand. but whatever.

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Mesmurae wrote...

I seriously doubt Bioware is carefully hiding messages in their words. It seems to me like some people are just determined to spin everything they say.

:(


True. I remember how one person wrote page on Kotaku about when the doctors said taking inspiration from Skyrim. They ranted on about how it was the end of the world for the entire page without stopping to think it could mean as little as "Skyrim had butterflies.. Maybe we should add butterflies!".

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 28 mars 2012 - 01:26 .


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Goddamit Bioware...somebody please make PR on twitter stops sending that kind of ambiguous hint. By staying silent or by saying something "hopefull" and then crash it down, you're also crashing our hopes to see a REAL ending to the saga. Because the one you delivered WAS AWFUL.

And this stopped being funny. IM REALLY, REALLY, REALLLLYYYY mad at "you".

Is it so hard to tell us if you're C-H-A-N-G-I-N-G it or not? Because seriously, i can't imagine ANYTHING that could even come close to what i consider "closure" with an "explanation", unless you make indoctrination theory or something like that, but im guessing that would be changing it.

The point is that the ending you gave us was awfull, don't let any IGN review make you think otherwise, they do that for a living, we play your games for pleasure, we know it and we love it more than any of them, and believe us, IT WAS AWFUL, and what it's worst, you only gave us ONE.

Modifié par Sesshaku, 28 mars 2012 - 01:28 .


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All I know is Patrick is ****ing awesome. The man wrote Tali.

He's a damn find person and should run for President.

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I Soya I wrote...

Sorry if this has been posted, but I just had a right place right time moment on the Mass Effect twitter feed.

 @masseffect @PatrickWeekes did you feel pressured to change the ending, Isn't it important to stick to your guns on some things?

@satootaku We never said we were changing it :) We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3. It isn't a response-It's been in the works


I don't twitter. What am I supposed to be seeing here?