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[Sc2mashimaro]

HenchxNarf wrote...

The Ole Ultra Violence wrote...

So you guys are planing to try and find a way to make the existing ending work...? Good luck with that.

Or you're just not gonna do anything. Gotta be honest, I don't think that DLC is gonna sell like it did before. It's your choice, it's your game, it's been great so far, but I just can't deal with this anymore.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure 85% of the people swearing not to buy DLC will buy it and just not tell anyone.

That being said, I'll be buying the DLC, no matter what it is (well, maybe not gun/armor packs, but I never buy those in any game)

I'm very hopeful that Bioware will fix this problem. I won't be "anti-bioware" if they don't, but I'm just not interested in Mass Effect DLC (from the other two either) with the ending as-is. I will probably buy another Bioware game some day, but without a better ending my enthusiasm for the Mass Effect universe is gone. I'm hoping they "get it" that many of use really do feel that way.

[fafnir magnus]

twitter always lies with mass effect

[GreenDragon37]

Amagoi wrote...

InsaneAzrael wrote...

Krushiev01 wrote...

Come on ...  The ending was intentionally left ambiguous so more could be unlocked later through DLC's.  Whether it be Indoc Theory, Ultimate rainbow win, supermega grimdark, ride off into the sunset (then get shot by Marauder Shields because you didn't actually kill him), or more space magic...

So let me get this straight, you endorse the prospect that they released an incomplete game for the sole purpose of later completing it with  DLC which would potentially and probably be paid release?
Wow.

They don't deserve our money for this behaviour. Maybe you like being abused, I don't.

If I wanted this sort of treatment I would walk into the rough part of town with my money hanging out of my pockets and being abnoxious to everyone.

-Replace Kalisah with your wallet.

Glad I'm not the only sane person in this thread. I can't believe some of you are saying "GG BIOWARE FAITH RESTORED", over a tweet? It really is like seeing an abused person run back to the abuser.  If Bioware thought the ending was great, and made a huge mistake, that's one thing. If they intentionally released an incomplete product, and then release the 'real end finishing touches' as paid dlc, that's a whole other can of worms. And you must be out of your mind if you think that's a great plan.

[Chernaya]

They don't really lie, they just use really vague wording.

[jupitertronic]

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Dawson14 wrote...

I really think they have plans for a new series whatever it is. The endings are set in stone. They won't change. They sacrificed the ME trilogy with the same ending so they can easily start the new one.

I agree.  I think they want to milk the series, which is why they didn't give us the self-contained trilogy they originally intended (and we originally expected).

That's such a hilarious move on their part though, because the ending, and only the ending, killed the franchise permanently for me.

Don't get me wrong, if "clarification" would just mean that I end up interpreting the ending as meaning something new, and it's something I can live with, I'd happily buy more Mass Effect DLC/games. My point is if absolutely nothing changes and all new games take place before this inevitable ending, or if they take place in a post-apocalyptic world after the ending, I literally do not see the point and will no longer take part.

I don't get why they couldn't just make some other series that wasn't related to Mass Effect where it was a post-apocalyptic future. Why did they have to destroy a world they took 5 years to build? I cannot wrap my head around all the wasted potential.

Modifié par jupitertronic, 28 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[FS3D]

CavScout wrote...

FS3D wrote...
And that makes what they did OK?

Have you read the US Constitution? This might not seem relevant, but I assure you, it is.

The core principle of the Bill of Rights in the Constitution is the protection of the individual over the demands of the majority. An example of this is the rights of ethnic minorities. No matter how many of the majority want to trample on the rights of the minority, they can't do it... Because the Constitution protects them.

Legally speaking, BioWare don't have to do a damned thing, and they might not necessarily lose too much money over this... But word gets around, and if they're prepared to shaft their customers, their PAYING customers, many of whom sunk a lot of money into the franchise... Then those people in the "minority" are never going to trust them again.

Legally they're fine.

Financially, they're probably going to be OK (although Raven makes a few good points there, too).

Morally, they're screwed. They lied to us and made promises that they never kept, and probably don't ever intend to properly honour.

LOL, what? Did you just invoke the US Constitution in a dispute over a video game's ending?

As for majority rules... maybe you forgot the whole slavery thing and how slaves were counted as partial people in the original Constitution.

Funny thing about the past... It's full of mistakes. Just because something ws accepted in the past doesn't mean it's acceptable today, and that's not to say it's no longer acceptable simply because we changed our minds... It simply means we were wrong to accept it at any point in history.

[Rabid Rooster]

Chris Priestly wrote...

 People are reading the wrong thing into this. We have always had DLC plans for ME3. We said so long before launch. This is not news as ME and ME2 had DLCs.

This is not a comment about "endings" DLC, just DLC in general.

Yes but the question was not about DLCs already planned it was about changing the ending. Which the way he answered sounds like he was talking about the endings. We all know that DLCs were already planned thats not a question just fact.

[Sero303]

Marauder Sheilds, God-Child, Space Magic,...does not add up to an ending, and there is no amount of drugs that can make that into an ending with the consumer saying "oh yea that makes sense"

[CronoDragoon]

Lol, updated thread title is pretty funny.

[Sc2mashimaro]

jupitertronic wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Dawson14 wrote...

I really think they have plans for a new series whatever it is. The endings are set in stone. They won't change. They sacrificed the ME trilogy with the same ending so they can easily start the new one.

I agree.  I think they want to milk the series, which is why they didn't give us the self-contained trilogy they originally intended (and we originally expected).

That's such a hilarious move on their part though, because the ending, and only the ending, killed the franchise permanently for me.

Don't get me wrong, if "clarification" would just mean that I end up interpreting the ending as meaning something new, and it's something I can live with, I'd happily buy more Mass Effect DLC/games. My point is if absolutely nothing changes and all new games take place before this inevitable ending, or if they take place in a post-apocalyptic world after the ending, I literally do not see the point and will no longer take part.

I don't get why they couldn't just make some other series that wasn't related to Mass Effect where it was a post-apocalyptic future. Why did they have to destroy a world they took 5 years to build? I cannot wrap my head around all the wasted potential.

Or put that destruction in at the start of the new game, the new story, rather than sapping the strength from the end of this one.

[kramerfan86]

I dont see how they can build off the endings to make a worthwhile new trilogy. It would either have to be set ridiculously far in the future or prequels, either way the endings could have been done pretty much any way under those parameters.

[DukeOfNukes]

I think that, regardless of their original intent or how they "fix" this, I'm going to be a lot more hesitant to buy BioWare games in the future...and will likely wait a few weeks just to see fan reactions.

If this was a publicity stunt like the "I told you so" theorists are saying, then I'm not amused. I paid for my game 3 weeks ago...and I still don't have the original, intended ending? Why the hell would I PAY for that service? If this is "fixed" via paid DLC...I may buy it, then never buy anything BioWare again.

If it's not a publicity stunt, and genuinely a screw up, I'll have lost faith in them all the same...and the end result will probably be the same.

If the fix is free...I'll be more likely to give them a second chance...but it will take some time, and a fair amount of goodwill on their part.

Modifié par DukeOfNukes, 28 mars 2012 - 05:03 .

[jupitertronic]

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

jupitertronic wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Dawson14 wrote...

I really think they have plans for a new series whatever it is. The endings are set in stone. They won't change. They sacrificed the ME trilogy with the same ending so they can easily start the new one.

I agree.  I think they want to milk the series, which is why they didn't give us the self-contained trilogy they originally intended (and we originally expected).

That's such a hilarious move on their part though, because the ending, and only the ending, killed the franchise permanently for me.

Don't get me wrong, if "clarification" would just mean that I end up interpreting the ending as meaning something new, and it's something I can live with, I'd happily buy more Mass Effect DLC/games. My point is if absolutely nothing changes and all new games take place before this inevitable ending, or if they take place in a post-apocalyptic world after the ending, I literally do not see the point and will no longer take part.

I don't get why they couldn't just make some other series that wasn't related to Mass Effect where it was a post-apocalyptic future. Why did they have to destroy a world they took 5 years to build? I cannot wrap my head around all the wasted potential.

Or put that destruction in at the start of the new game, the new story, rather than sapping the strength from the end of this one.

Exactly! Even ignoring all the obvious narrative WTF-ery, from a business standpoint I seriously do not understand what's going on with this ending and why it couldn't be part of some entirely different game.

[lordmorbus]

felipejiraya wrote...

I'm not saying this is a major development but this is a major development.

I'm not sure why but I LOL hard on that one.....

[publius1000]

How come, when I'm a junior and this is my most important semester of college - last grades before grad-school apps next year - and I have 2 midterms this week, one of which I probably just failed, I'm still sitting here, at nearly 2am, going through thread after thread in a completely vain hope of.. what? Finding some clues for the future of ME3? All I need to do is go to the overall forum page - the announcements thread still has 44 topics? yep, okay bye. But no, instead I'm here, like a ****ing idiot. Thanks Bioware, you ruined your franchise and you've probably ruined all my future prospects.

[Wes Mordine]

I've always hoped that my "perfect" ending SPOILERS (Shepard in the rubble) means it ain't over.

They just messed up the delivery, but if we were always meant to get more after this point in the story, I'm very happy and somewhat relieved.

Just please, PLEASE include a Happy Ending OPTION. =)

[RedShft]

Everything is so vague, that i'll just go ahead and assume nothing is happening.

[xsdob]

So basically they're covering up their mistake by pretending it was intentional. I don't see the problem here, everything of great importance or impact was discovered or created by accident, and only scientist have been willing to admit when they do this.

[Wabajakka]

RedShft wrote...

Everything is so vague, that i'll just go ahead and assume nothing is happening.

Ya it's kind of hard even by this to say they are referring to the ending being added on to. (Which I hope to god is true) but they could very well also be saying that they're doing nothing about it....

Ahhh so damn vague! Why! We're so close to an answer!

[Necrotron]

Fire stamped!

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

 I want to believe.

[Yakko77]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Raven4030-2 wrote...

More and more I'm starting to think they did have something in the works, but ran out of time so hoped the ending we have would stand on its own merits.

Otherwise... they've basically burned the fanbase but are waiting to apply the salve.

It had better be some good salve.

The sooner the better..  The wound is festering and there are fans who are "amputating" themselves from BW products.  It might be in their best interest to announce something BEFORE PAX I think but that likely wont happens so...

[Sierra163]

lordmorbus wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

I'm not saying this is a major development but this is a major development.

I'm not sure why but I LOL hard on that one.....

It's not a plan, but it's a perfect plan.

[bahamutomega]

if the tweet in the OP is legit, i think it adds strength to my argument here:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10636496/1

[bahamutomega]

Sierra163 wrote...

lordmorbus wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

I'm not saying this is a major development but this is a major development.

I'm not sure why but I LOL hard on that one.....

It's not a plan, but it's a perfect plan.

"in the dictionary, under the word redundant it says please see redundant"
-Robin Williams