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[noxpanda]

Miri can def live, shes lived in both my playthroughs so far, warned her all 3 times, was loyal in me2. Though i play as femshep so no clue if romance flags can mess it up..

[MCPOWill]

Maybe she dies of a broken heart if you broke up with her, regardless of how you help her out. George Lucas would be proud.

[Tersur79]

I didnt romance her. Gave her the intel. She lived.

[Tilarta]

My Shep is a Femshep, so romance wasn't a factor.

But Miranda has lived in my first 2 runthroughs, so I assume I've got the procedure sorted out.

I think it goes like this:

ME2: Loyal.
ME3: Paragon every conversation option.
ME3: Read Kai Leng email from Anderson. This alters the conversation with Miranda so she knows "the slippery bastard is still alive" and she takes "precautions" for an encounter with him.
ME3: Give her access to Alliance resources.
ME3: Shoot Oriana in the leg, forcing Mr Lawson to let her go, Miranda gives him a biotic termination notice.

[Thetri]

I got her loyalty in ME2, I kissed her but I did not fully romance her. My characters all end up with Tali. Anyway in ME3, I talked to her all the times she asked and I gave her the resources. She survived.

[Manton-X2]

On my one and only playthru, she lived and I didn't think about it or realized that she could die until I saw something on YouTube. Not sure what I did that would trigger her living. This Shepard was the one where I romanced Ashley in ME1, Jack in ME2/ME3. I had Miranda's loyalty (even took her on the final mission in ME2 which I thought was only right since she was there in the beginning, but I bet has nothing to do with this ).

In ME3, I told Miranda about Kai Leng being out and about ... I helped her get access to Alliance resources ... I kind of remember something at the SPECTRE terminal, but I may be mis-remembering that. In the confrontation, I used my Paragon mind trick to convince Mr. Lawson to just let Oriana go and when he did, Miranda finished him off (hey, I only said if he let her go "I" probably wouldn't kill him .. didn't say anything about her).

I've never seen anything that showed "how loyal" someone was to you, but then there is a flag for if you broke up with someone. Maybe that factors into it.

MX2

Modifié par Manton-X2, 28 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[TomY90]

I have done two playthroughs and she lived on both counts

but unsure on how the system works because I am yet to have her die and not planning on having that happen.

[Axlesauce]

dewayne31 wrote...

if you break up with her (if romanced), she will die. i can confirm that. and i believe the guide says so too. but if you reaffirm your love for her in the first convo, then switch li. talk to your new li before see miranda bout access. she will go to friend and survive. i think it a bug...

^ 
This works. Because all LI's are "locked in" at a certain point in the game, you can tell Miranda that you still want to continue in your first meeting with her on the citadel ( Effectively making her not die of a broken heart) then continue by romancing the LI you're going after, for example, Ash. 

Miranda's "locked in" occurs when you give her the alliance funding, If I remember correctly. You can revert the relationship back to "friends" before then, by spending time with Ash, or whoever your current LI is before hand. For Ash and Liara, it's as simple as talking to them while they're on the Citadel for the second time. (Ash is near the cafe, Liara is at the overlook near the far corner of the commons. )

[Ravenmyste]

okay thats strange all my 4 play thrus and she died!

and i gave her the intel and warned her as i stated but both time she died maybe its the romance that saves her?

because the only thing i didnt do was romance her and thats it i am doing full playthru this time going as tailmancer/mirimancer to see if that is what it takes to get her to be saved i wonder if mriander has change on  the ending or changes it some way not to extreme i mean, yes she lives but does she become a war asset and inprove the  war strenght?

hmm now i am doing this from me 1 so i shall see if i can get miri to  be romanced, maybe she does change to some lesser degree i dont know we'll going to make maleshep engineer to see how it is for him and her

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 29 mars 2012 - 02:50 .

[Ravenmyste]

Axlesauce wrote...

dewayne31 wrote...

if you break up with her (if romanced), she will die. i can confirm that. and i believe the guide says so too. but if you reaffirm your love for her in the first convo, then switch li. talk to your new li before see miranda bout access. she will go to friend and survive. i think it a bug...

^ 
This works. Because all LI's are "locked in" at a certain point in the game, you can tell Miranda that you still want to continue in your first meeting with her on the citadel ( Effectively making her not die of a broken heart) then continue by romancing the LI you're going after, for example, Ash. 

Miranda's "locked in" occurs when you give her the alliance funding, If I remember correctly. You can revert the relationship back to "friends" before then, by spending time with Ash, or whoever your current LI is before hand. For Ash and Liara, it's as simple as talking to them while they're on the Citadel for the second time. (Ash is near the cafe, Liara is at the overlook near the far corner of the commons. )

hmm does the lock continue if you have  tail from me 1 as you li and then switch to miri in me2?

i am going to ignore the lira been my li since  me1{last games} and hope that i can get tali and or miri in and 2

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 29 mars 2012 - 02:55 .

[Axlesauce]

Hm? I don't believe Tali was a romance option in ME1.

[JosieJ]

Ravenmyste wrote...

okay thats strange all my 4 play thrus and she died!

and i gave her the intel and warned her as i stated but both time she died maybe its the romance that saves her?

because the only thing i didnt do was romance her and thats it i am doing full playthru this time going as tailmancer/mirimancer to see if that is what it takes to get her to be saved i wonder if mriander has change on  the ending or changes it some way not to extreme i mean, yes she lives but does she become a war asset and inprove the  war strenght?

hmm now i am doing this from me 1 so i shall see if i can get miri to  be romanced, maybe she does change to some lesser degree i dont know we'll going to make maleshep engineer to see how it is for him and her

My ManShep didn't romance her at all and she survived just fine.  She's also survived on one of my FemShep playthroughs (no romance possible, obviously).  She only died on my other FemShep playthrough because I set it up that way: even though I gave her the intel on Kai Leng and the Alliance resources she asked for, I didn't use any Persuade options on her father, and didn't shoot him, forcing her to take the shot herself.  That's supposedly the only way she'll die if you've given her the intel on Kai Leng.

I'm at a loss to explain why it is she keeps dying on you.  Are you sure you met with her every time she asked you to?  Used Paragon options when she apologizes?  Read Anderson's intel on Kai Leng (which automatically makes you give it to her)?  Gave her Alliance resources when she asked for them?

[Ravenmyste]

JosieJ wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

okay thats strange all my 4 play thrus and she died!

and i gave her the intel and warned her as i stated but both time she died maybe its the romance that saves her?

because the only thing i didnt do was romance her and thats it i am doing full playthru this time going as tailmancer/mirimancer to see if that is what it takes to get her to be saved i wonder if mriander has change on  the ending or changes it some way not to extreme i mean, yes she lives but does she become a war asset and inprove the  war strenght?

hmm now i am doing this from me 1 so i shall see if i can get miri to  be romanced, maybe she does change to some lesser degree i dont know we'll going to make maleshep engineer to see how it is for him and her

My ManShep didn't romance her at all and she survived just fine.  She's also survived on one of my FemShep playthroughs (no romance possible, obviously).  She only died on my other FemShep playthrough because I set it up that way: even though I gave her the intel on Kai Leng and the Alliance resources she asked for, I didn't use any Persuade options on her father, and didn't shoot him, forcing her to take the shot herself.  That's supposedly the only way she'll die if you've given her the intel on Kai Leng.

I'm at a loss to explain why it is she keeps dying on you.  Are you sure you met with her every time she asked you to?  Used Paragon options when she apologizes?  Read Anderson's intel on Kai Leng (which automatically makes you give it to her)?  Gave her Alliance resources when she asked for them?

yes all 4 times and full paragon no idea  why she dies on me{even with out the  options  she  will push the father thru the window and the father will geta shot off shooting her in the stomach.. and yes to everything that she asked me and she loyal to me  fromme 2 i think its becasue i didnt romance her in  me2 thats the only thing i can think of and yes gave her  alliance resources

wait unless she can only wooed by male shep the one that my avatar is my femshep thru all the playthrus from my orginal game on me 1,2 and 3..

hence why i am going to make a new male shep to see if it does indeed change a bit

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 29 mars 2012 - 03:40 .

[Ghosts7]

You have to talk to her in the commons. She asks for alliance resources, if you give it to her, she will not die; i tested this. The first time i didnt talk to her before going to sanctuary and she died, the other 2 times i did and she did not die. i did not romance her in ME2 so i wouldnt know if breaking up with her will cause death.

[Tilarta]

I think Romance is irrevalent.

My FemShep is incapable of romancing Miranda and I saved her every time.

Take the Renegade interrupt when it occurs, this will force Mr Lawson to release Oriana, giving Miranda room to BioticBitcaRage him.

This is the sequence I followed in Conversation:

I'm here for Oriana.
Renegade Interrupt.
BioticWindowSlamOfDeath.
Hugs from the Lawson Sisters for saving both of them. 

The first option is neither Paragon nor Renegade, but neutral.
I didn't need to use either Persuasion to save Miranda.

Modifié par Tilarta, 29 mars 2012 - 08:29 .

[Head1essRooster]

I didn't even know she can die until I noticed this thread.

[Sealy]

Ghosts7 wrote...

You have to talk to her in the commons. She asks for alliance resources, if you give it to her, she will not die; i tested this. The first time i didnt talk to her before going to sanctuary and she died, the other 2 times i did and she did not die. i did not romance her in ME2 so i wouldnt know if breaking up with her will cause death.

Ah now that I think about it I missed that in my finished playthrough. Thanks.

[Gray_Foxdie]

Tilarta wrote...

I think Romance is irrevalent.

My FemShep is incapable of romancing Miranda and I saved her every time.

Take the Renegade interrupt when it occurs, this will force Mr Lawson to release Oriana, giving Miranda room to BioticBitcaRage him.

This is the sequence I followed in Conversation:

I'm here for Oriana.
Renegade Interrupt.
BioticWindowSlamOfDeath.
Hugs from the Lawson Sisters for saving both of them. 

The first option is neither Paragon nor Renegade, but neutral.
I didn't need to use either Persuasion to save Miranda.

Romance is relevant, if you break up with her in ME3, after having romanced her in ME2, the first time you meet her, then she dies no matter what. If you didn't romance then doing all the stuff that's been mentioned before will keep her alive. So of course for you it's irrelevant since you're playing as FemShep but for someone like me who did romance her, it matters quite a bit.

[CoolGreyCat]

My male Shep romanced Miranda in ME2 broke up with her for Ash in ME3 and she survived Horizon.

[Ieldra]

Currently suspected conditions for saving Miranda (Note that it's possible that any of these conditions just adds a weight to her "death variable", so it *may* be possible to miss one and still have her live).

(1) Must be loyal from ME2 (this appears to be a necessary condition), which means she dies in all non-imported games.
(2) Speak with her after Palaven. Do not break up with her (nonromanced is ok, romanced and broken-up is not)
(3) Do one mission after the Citadel coup, read the mail about Kai Leng from Anderson, then go to the Spectre office to talk with Miranda. You'll automatically warn her about Kai Leng.
(4) Meet Miranda in the Presidium Commons before you do Sanctuary. Give her access to Alliance resources.
(5) Have a high enough reputation to persuade Henry Lawson to stand down, OR take the Renegade interrupt to wound Oriana.

[yesikareyes]

CoolGreyCat wrote...

My male Shep romanced Miranda in ME2 broke up with her for Ash in ME3 and she survived Horizon.

I can't believe you stomached watching her cry...  What if you didn't break up with her at the Docks? but locked in another romance with someone else... what happens now?

Modifié par yesikareyes, 30 mars 2012 - 03:30 .

[Fieryeel]

She doesn't need to be loyal.

1) She was disloyal (I sided with Jack over her)
2) I was not in a relationship with her
3) I warned her about Kai Leng
4) I used a paragon option to save Oriana
5) She was injured but survived

[Eugenious]

I didnt know Miranda dies till my second play through... I think it's just your paragon/renegade level. You have to be able to use the paragon/reneage conversation option when confronting her father (no the between cut-scene stuff?

I know in the first play through....I used the paragon convo option and she survived....She died though when I used the renagage option during the cut scene..i think...

[Tilarta]

Gray_Foxdie wrote...

Tilarta wrote...

I think Romance is irrevalent.

My FemShep is incapable of romancing Miranda and I saved her every time.

Romance is relevant, if you break up with her in ME3, after having romanced her in ME2, the first time you meet her, then she dies no matter what. If you didn't romance then doing all the stuff that's been mentioned before will keep her alive. So of course for you it's irrelevant since you're playing as FemShep but for someone like me who did romance her, it matters quite a bit.

Ah, I see now I should have qualified that statement somewhat.

I assume if that a FemShep can save Miranda without Romancing her, a MaleShep is equally capable of doing the same.

But if you did Romance Mirrie, then extra complications are added and saving her becomes harder.
What those might be, I have no idea, but usually, Paragoning is the best route.

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Currently suspected conditions for saving Miranda (Note that it's possible that any of these conditions just adds a weight to her "death variable", so it *may* be possible to miss one and still have her live).

Given the conflicting reports, I guess there may be a dice roll involved if you don't tick all the boxes for survival.

Modifié par flemm, 30 mars 2012 - 08:45 .