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#251
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 To calculate DPS with reload, the formula is thus:

            (MC X Dmg)
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          (MC/SS) + RD


Where
MC=mag capacity
dmg = dmg/shot
SS = shots per second
RD = reload duration


All info is already in the spreadsheet, you'd just need to add two rows to add this new formula. It can be used to calculate DPS of single shot weapons. Can use the shortened reload time for those wanting to figure out DPS with cloak and multi shot rifle.

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Et. al,

Took a peek into the coalesc file last night. Have updated my thread on the Spawn points with some spawn mechanics. Can take a look to see if I tripped up anywhere? Link's in the first post of this thread (thanks Tangster!) and in my sig.

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gaminazn wrote...

 To calculate DPS with reload, the formula is thus:

            (MC X Dmg)
_________________________________
          (MC/SS) + RD


Where
MC=mag capacity
dmg = dmg/shot
SS = shots per second
RD = reload duration


All info is already in the spreadsheet, you'd just need to add two rows to add this new formula. It can be used to calculate DPS of single shot weapons. Can use the shortened reload time for those wanting to figure out DPS with cloak and multi shot rifle.

Zerodivision has already provided the formula, I just haven't had time to update them yet.<_<

Lynx7725 wrote...

Et. al,

Took a peek into the coalesc file last night. Have updated my thread on the Spawn points with some spawn mechanics. Can take a look to see if I tripped up anywhere? Link's in the first post of this thread (thanks Tangster!) and in my sig.

 
Yep, read and commented. Good stuff.

Modifié par Tangster, 26 avril 2012 - 10:43 .


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Iodine wrote...

You're on the right track and basically there, so I'll just clarify...


Oh, I see. So my totals are right, the [2] just means the power is at Rank 3, because 0 is Rank 1.

Modifié par Rolenka, 26 avril 2012 - 04:29 .


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all you ever wanted to know about ME3 cooldown formulas ?

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I believe that you should add the headshot mutipliers to this chart. Currently, it shows the Saber as having higher damage per shot than the black widow, which for headshots I know not to be true. If not, can someone at tell me what the multipliers are? I know the snipers have 2.5x (kishock 3x) but I am unsure about the other weapons.

Modifié par GroverA125, 26 avril 2012 - 05:59 .


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GroverA125 wrote...

I believe that you should add the headshot mutipliers to this chart. Currently, it shows the Saber as having higher damage per shot than the black widow, which for headshots I know not to be true. If not, can someone at tell me what the multipliers are? I know the snipers have 2.5x (kishock 3x) but I am unsure about the other weapons.

All headshots are 2.5x except the Kishok, 3x.

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GroverA125 wrote...

I believe that you should add the headshot mutipliers to this chart. Currently, it shows the Saber as having higher damage per shot than the black widow, which for headshots I know not to be true. If not, can someone at tell me what the multipliers are? I know the snipers have 2.5x (kishock 3x) but I am unsure about the other weapons.


kishock * 3 
GPS , Falcon, Striker , Skorpion ? * 1
everything else * 2.5


"Currently, it shows the Saber as having higher damage per shot than the black widow, " - no it doesn't ...

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peddroelmz wrote...
kishock * 3 
GPS , Falcon, Striker , Skorpion ? * 1
everything else * 2.5

Might just be better to say the GPS, Falcon, Striker and Scorpion have no headshot multiplier.

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peddroelmz wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

I believe that you should add the headshot mutipliers to this chart. Currently, it shows the Saber as having higher damage per shot than the black widow, which for headshots I know not to be true. If not, can someone at tell me what the multipliers are? I know the snipers have 2.5x (kishock 3x) but I am unsure about the other weapons.


kishock * 3 
GPS , Falcon, Striker , Skorpion ? * 1
everything else * 2.5


"Currently, it shows the Saber as having higher damage per shot than the black widow, " - no it doesn't ...


Oops. Misaligned the bars. Now the world makes sense. That's the one issue I seem to have with the charts, other than absolutely no idea about recoil yaws and all that stuff.

Strange though, I always assumed that sniper rifles would have a larger damage bonus than other weapons. In fact, I was under the assumption that SMGs were given larger headshot multipliers when compared to other automatic weapons in an effort to make them viable. Ah well, now things make more sense.

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Tangster wrote...

Timerider42 wrote...

Another question: the Scorpion and the AP mod. How does it work?
It can't pass through targets, but does it still do more damage to armored targets?

I've always assumed so. But the increased damage is negligable as even a level V piercing mod will only reduce the armour DR on gold by 65%, which is 32.5 damage per shot.

In general, are the AP mods ever worth using on gold?

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Timerider42 wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Timerider42 wrote...

Another question: the Scorpion and the AP mod. How does it work?
It can't pass through targets, but does it still do more damage to armored targets?

I've always assumed so. But the increased damage is negligable as even a level V piercing mod will only reduce the armour DR on gold by 65%, which is 32.5 damage per shot.

In general, are the AP mods ever worth using on gold?

SMG's, automatic AR's and the low damage per pellet shotguns all benefit from the armor DR. The main benefit to AP ammo or mods is the ability to hit targets through cover rather than the decrease in armor DR, it's always better to hit targets that aren't moving or shooting at you.

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I was wondering if there was a complete list of all the equipment stats. Like how much damage does Targeting VI give for each level, how much Power Recharge Speed for each level, what damage each ammo mod does and so on...

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Got a question about stability consumable. Equipping stability consumable 3 and stability mod 5 will result in downwards recoil (more than 100% stability). Same with Turian with 55% stability and consumable 3 (though to a lesser degree). Wouldnt this suggest that stability consumable 3 adds 50% stability instead of 30 (if so, a Turian with 45%stability should have a slight upwards recoil (same range as the downwards recoil with 55% stability)

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Korjyan wrote...

I was wondering if there was a complete list of all the equipment stats. Like how much damage does Targeting VI give for each level, how much Power Recharge Speed for each level, what damage each ammo mod does and so on...

Check the first post of this thread. Scroll down a bit further.

Poekel wrote...

Got a question about stability consumable. Equipping stability consumable 3 and stability mod 5 will result in downwards recoil (more than 100% stability). Same with Turian with 55% stability and consumable 3 (though to a lesser degree). Wouldnt this suggest that stability consumable 3 adds 50% stability instead of 30 (if so, a Turian with 45%stability should have a slight upwards recoil (same range as the downwards recoil with 55% stability)

 
I don't know how it stacks, a multiplicative stack would give a different result to a additive stack, obviously.

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May 2nd changes are now live.

DPS formula edits to include reload time incoming tomorrow.

Modifié par Tangster, 02 mai 2012 - 10:46 .


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*bows down to Tangster* tyvm! Great post! :D

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Where is the number of pellets for shotguns? Am I just missing something?

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Sakaja wrote...

Where is the number of pellets for shotguns? Am I just missing something?

8 for the shotguns, 6 for the Talon.

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After some discussions in the "Krogan or Batarian for Melee" thread, I thought I should update the base melee damage spreadsheet by adding all the possible damage modifiers for each race/class. You might want to add it to your list of useful info:

https://docs.google....RoTWJxalE#gid=0

Edit: chart updated.

Modifié par Fire Eye, 12 mai 2012 - 01:21 .


#271
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Something is wrong or misleading with how Targeting VI works.

I was putting the Arc Pistol through its paces seeing what it can or can't OHK with a Geth Infiltrator. I equipped a Targeting VI III as well as Warp Ammo III.

A Cloaked shot to the head should have wiped out the Centurion on Gold. Instead it left it at one bar.

After the math, I'm doing 1832 damage per bullet, Centurions have 1687.5 health. I should be one-shotting the Centurion.

Irritated I used up level 3 equipment I tested it without any equipment. Ended up leaving the Centurion with only 3 bars.

You need a Proximity Mine debuff for the OHK which defeats the purpose of a OHK.

Targeting VI doesn't seem to apply the damage bonus to all bullets from multi-shot weapons which is unfortunate because I probably would actually use the Arc Pistol quite a bit on Gold otherwise.

OR they could buff the base damage to 98.

#272
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9th may updates.

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Bumping for justice

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May 16th balance updates.

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So Tangster is the one who made the meme... I SALUTE YOU TANGSTER!