Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
Michael Gamble will discuss something with us at PAX
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:32
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From teh Mass Effect Team we'll have:
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:32
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Tazzmission wrote...
im a grown man thank you very much
also note my comment wasnt insulting
the only insult i see around these parts are the same people who still argue the whole ** art integrity** thing and how in there own eyes it isnt ** art*
Actually, your comment was insulting. And overly dramatic.
You see, I know plenty about artistic integrity. I just don't care.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:32
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Upholding promises, standards of quality, and important core messages? Not acting all high and mighty about it when you goof up big time? Having the courage and humility to work hard to restore lost honor?Tazzmission wrote...
well apprently its a subject you know nothing about
PATRON: I just want to say, I'm so happy you finally finished that series of portraits I asked you for!
ARTIST: Yeah, I really went all-out on the last one.
PATRON: No kidding! Your personal style has really... Wait. What is that?
ARTIST: What is what?
PATRON: That brown stain right in the middle of her face.
ARTIST: Oh yeah. I pooped on the canvas.
PATRON: WHAT!?
ARTIST: It's a statement about the ultimate futility of existence. I think it's pretty deep.
PATRON: STATEMENT?! I PAID YOU HUNDREDS OF... IT'S RIGHT ON HER FACE!
ARTIST: Yeah. Pretty daring of me, huh? Makes me feel like a rebel.
PATRON: Please tell me this isn't the actual piece. You're going to clean it, right? Or do another one? Or wait, this is a joke; that's not actually your poop, right? Haha, funny. You're funny. But seriously, I can't accept this. The rest of your work was perfect, but this is just--
ARTIST: Hey, don't go telling me how to do my job. I'm an artist, man. You're stifling my creativity. Now where's my money?
again can you keep every promise you make?
also again show me the exact quote where a dev said i promise the ending wont be bad
if you can not provide the proof then yea your twisting what your reading
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:33
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Can someone link me to where Bioware referenced artistic integrity as part of the reason for not catering to fans?
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:33
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IsaacShep wrote...
Omega DLC + maybe details on endings expansion/clarification DLC/patch
I think the OP asked for you to discuss. Not cover every bit of discussion possible
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:33
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Exactly how many people are going to buy a DLC that takes place before the ending when we already know the ending. All three horrific ones! Oh wait... the single one with three colors. I will not buy anything until the ending is fixed. Period.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:34
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Il Divo wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
im a grown man thank you very much
also note my comment wasnt insulting
the only insult i see around these parts are the same people who still argue the whole ** art integrity** thing and how in there own eyes it isnt ** art*
Actually, your comment was insulting. And overly dramatic.
You see, I know plenty about artistic integrity. I just don't care.
if you want insults feel free to check the other forums i post on
secondly what i said wasnt
there is a huge differance if you happen to take the time to look at the 2 side by side wise guy
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:34
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Easy, let's not throw insults around. You might not agree with someone else, but please let's keep this discussion civil.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:34
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AndroLeonidas wrote...
Exactly ho wmany people are going to buy a DLC that takes place before the ending when we already know the ending. All three horrific ones! Oh wait... the single one with three colors. I will not buy anything until the ending is fixed. Period.
: coughbscough:
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:34
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Chris Priestly wrote...
From teh Mass Effect Team we'll have:
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
Will you be bringing the cupcake wrapers to auction off?
Good pocket money for your trip out of town.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:35
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Is this going to be all about Mass Effect or will there be any Dragon Age talk?Chris Priestly wrote...
From teh Mass Effect Team we'll have:
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:35
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Also, this, as a reply to the post on SA:
go3 posted:
"My client base would rapidly shrink if instead of listening to their complaints I just took their check and told them to eat a dick while heading out the door.
Maybe I need a new job."
Enough about artistic integrity, let's prepare some questions for them, shall we?
go3 posted:
"My client base would rapidly shrink if instead of listening to their complaints I just took their check and told them to eat a dick while heading out the door.
Maybe I need a new job."
Enough about artistic integrity, let's prepare some questions for them, shall we?
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:36
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Tazzmission wrote...
if you want insults feel free to check the other forums i post on
secondly what i said wasnt
there is a huge differance if you happen to take the time to look at the 2 side by side wise guy
"well apprently its a subject you know nothing about"
Sorry, but that's about as dismissive and insulting as it gets. You don't get extra credit just because you didn't add name-calling to the list.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:36
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Tazzmission wrote...
someone else wrote...
who's really the artist here? The guys at BW who gave us a marvelous magic paint box, or the players who took those tools and made their own unique creations. The BW team amply deserves credit, recognition and accolades for being master artisans and craftsmen - the artistry, I submit belongs to each of us.
Net - I'd like MY artistic integrity respected, please.
actually bioware are the artists and if anything we are the students buddy
they gave us the tool to do what we do did they not?
but i guess to some people : looks over and whoever it was i quoted* they would think my reply is insulting
If we are students then what have we been taught?
They SOLD us the tools and a semi-blank canvas so we could make OUR art. The supplier of a tool is NEVER the artist they merely made it possible for the art to be made, and in this case they gave us a canvas that alredy had the final touches... all we GOT to do was give it all the minor details and stuff
not insulting just incorrect.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:36
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Chris Priestly wrote...
From teh Mass Effect Team we'll have:
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
thanks chris!
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:38
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Chris Priestly wrote...
From teh Mass Effect Team we'll have:
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
Weekes is just over a week away!
HA!
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:38
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Il Divo wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
if you want insults feel free to check the other forums i post on
secondly what i said wasnt
there is a huge differance if you happen to take the time to look at the 2 side by side wise guy
"well apprently its a subject you know nothing about"
Sorry, but that's about as dismissive and insulting as it gets. You don't get extra credit just because you didn't add name-calling to the list.
again like i said if you want insults feel free to check the other forum i post on otherwise quit getting yourself all worked up over nothing
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:38
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Thanks for the update, Mr. Priestly. Makes me sad I won't be there.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:39
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Tazzmission wrote...
again can you keep every promise you make?
also again show me the exact quote where a dev said i promise the ending wont be bad
if you can not provide the proof then yea your twisting what your reading
You want... quotes from devs promising the ending won't suck? Are you trolling us?
If not, the devs promised "wildly divergent" endings, and said it wouldn't come to "A, B or C" but what we got is one ending with palette-swapped explosions and the choice of A. B or C.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:39
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*sigh* I hate people.
I'd really like to shoot the person in the face who first came up with the idea that video games is art.
Its bloody entertainment, not a frickin' statue or the Sistine chapel.
If you think video games are art, then a japanese video game about school girls and tentacle rape is art too.
*stomps off grumbling*
I'd really like to shoot the person in the face who first came up with the idea that video games is art.
Its bloody entertainment, not a frickin' statue or the Sistine chapel.
If you think video games are art, then a japanese video game about school girls and tentacle rape is art too.
*stomps off grumbling*
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:39
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No, but you have a duty to uphold the big ones, and not hide behind silly excuses when you fail. That's called "integrity."Tazzmission wrote...
again can you keep every promise you make?
What kind of a developer would, in their right mind, tell everyone that the game is going to suck and no one should buy it?also again show me the exact quote where a dev said i promise the ending wont be bad
if you can not provide the proof then yea your twisting what your reading
But since you asked:
"It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C," he said. "The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."
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So art again huh, Well let me tell you
It is a video game not a painting, statue, book, or anything like that.
A video game is completely changeable, other "art"(as you say) is often not.
a video game can be changed on demand, and that is what we have hear, demand
that is what dlc and patches are for
other art was not changed because nobody cared or how hard it would be to do so.
either way the idea of video games as being unchangeable art is invalid because other games get dlc to in order to please fans and you know what comes with that DLC, That terrible little thing called change... but wait people like that change so people just go on and enjoy it, very little people go WHINING about how the change ruins the artistic vision of the game and complains how it ruins the whole experience and how they "caved" to there fans.
It is a video game not a painting, statue, book, or anything like that.
A video game is completely changeable, other "art"(as you say) is often not.
a video game can be changed on demand, and that is what we have hear, demand
that is what dlc and patches are for
other art was not changed because nobody cared or how hard it would be to do so.
either way the idea of video games as being unchangeable art is invalid because other games get dlc to in order to please fans and you know what comes with that DLC, That terrible little thing called change... but wait people like that change so people just go on and enjoy it, very little people go WHINING about how the change ruins the artistic vision of the game and complains how it ruins the whole experience and how they "caved" to there fans.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:40
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Tazzmission wrote...
again like i said if you want insults feel free to check the other forum i post on otherwise quit getting yourself all worked up over nothing
Why should I go to the other forums? I can get the same result by following your posts around. I at least am intelligent enough to realize when I've insulted someone.
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Posté 28 mars 2012 - 04:41
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Okay, sorry I keep dumping on you guys (I intended the "pooping on canvas" analogy as an example of what is NOT artistic integrity), but seriously, I look forward to this.Chris Priestly wrote...
From teh Mass Effect Team we'll have:
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.
We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.
Especially Weekes. I hate to play favorites, but he's my favorite.
