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[Tazzmission]

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

someone else wrote...

who's really the artist here? The guys at BW who gave us a marvelous magic paint box, or the players who took those tools and made their own unique creations. The BW team amply deserves credit, recognition and accolades for being master artisans and craftsmen - the artistry, I submit belongs to each of us.

Net - I'd like MY  artistic integrity respected, please.

actually bioware are the artists and if anything we are the students buddy

they gave us the tool to do what we do did they not?

but i guess to some people : looks over and whoever it was i quoted* they would think my reply is insulting

If we are students then what have we been taught?

They SOLD us the tools and a semi-blank canvas so we could make OUR art. The supplier of a tool is NEVER the artist they merely made it possible for the art to be made, and in this case they gave us a canvas that alredy had the final touches... all we GOT to do was give it all the minor details and stuff

not insulting just incorrect.

and again you still crafted your story did you not?

you can be a good or bad guy right?


you can basicly keep whoever you want alive right?

your soul argument is it isnt art because you have no controll whatsoever over the ending

dont you find that kind of pathetic for an argument?


let me make one thing clear the developers the owners of these ip's we play dont owe us anything and we sure as heck arent entitled to everything because we believe we are owed.

since when has it ever been a contractual thing at all?

thats how you sound dude

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I hope people are civil when asking them the tough questions.

With that said, Chris. I hope you guys are ready to properly answer most of our questions (which many will most likely be about the endings). PAX is kind of like the breaking point for a lot of us, and hopefully whatever you all have in store for us will help regain a lot of lost trust.

[WizenSlinky0]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I hope people are civil when asking them the tough questions.

With that said, Chris. I hope you guys are ready to properly answer most of our questions (which many will most likely be about the endings). PAX is kind of like the breaking point for a lot of us, and hopefully whatever you all have in store for us will help regain a lot of lost trust.

Psh, they'll announce it on April 1st and let us all assume it was a joke. Then they'll re-confirm it at PAX.

[AdmiralCheez]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I hope people are civil when asking them the tough questions.

With that said, Chris. I hope you guys are ready to properly answer most of our questions (which many will most likely be about the endings). PAX is kind of like the breaking point for a lot of us, and hopefully whatever you all have in store for us will help regain a lot of lost trust.

Yeah.  The PAX panel could turn out to be Bioware's most epic moment ever, in which the bond between developer and fanbase is finally reestablished...

... or the final nail in the coffin.

[Nepp]

Ouch.. I noticed Laidlaw is gunna be there.. The lead from that craptastic game DA2 really isn't a good idea to mix with the ME team...

[Tazzmission]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I hope people are civil when asking them the tough questions.
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yea i hope so to 


ps. if bioware needs security i am avalable for the job

[CELL55]

It seems to me that fans are only interested in hearing about one thing right now. 
I'll give you one guess, and no, it's not pudding. 

Modifié par CELL55, 28 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[Il Divo]

CELL55 wrote...

It seems to me that fans are only interested in hearing about one thing right now.
I'll give you one guess, and no, it's not pudding.

Cupcakes.

[Dridengx]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Exactly how many people are going to buy a DLC that takes place before the ending when we already know the ending.

Do you think someone can predict that for you and if they could would it matter how.. exactly?

AndroLeonidas wrote...
I will not buy anything until the ending is fixed. Period.

Thank you for input. I'm pretty sure that knowing this will allow many of us get a better nights rest because not knowing what side of the fence you were on, was a bit of a nail biter for some.

[WizenSlinky0]

Il Divo wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

It seems to me that fans are only interested in hearing about one thing right now.
I'll give you one guess, and no, it's not pudding.

Cupcakes.

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPCAKES!

*cough*

I'm...I'm sorry, I don't know...what...came over me.

[Hydralysk]

Tazzmission wrote...

again can you keep every promise you make?

also again show me the exact quote where a dev said i promise the ending wont be bad

if you can not provide the proof then yea your twisting what your reading

again can you keep every promise you make?
If you can't then you shouldn't be making promises in the first place, the idea behind promises is that yes you are supposed to keep them. If you find yourself unable to keep them for whatever reason, then you tell your customers BEFORE they spend money on your product, not just keep silent and hope they don't notice and call you out on it.

also again show me the exact quote where a dev said i promise the ending wont be bad
"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

These aren't claims that the end won't be bad (which is useless since that's a subjective term anyways) but these are promises nontheless that are obviously false. There are many other claims made by developers about the ending but these are some of the ones that aren't just misleading but outright false.

I could link you the thread with the rest, but I'm pretty sure you've already seen them since you're the first person with a response to it.

Modifié par Hydralysk, 28 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[Aggie Punbot]

Chris Priestly wrote...

From teh Mass Effect Team we'll have:
Miek Gamble
Corey Gaspur
Reid Buckmaster
John Dunborow
Patrick Weekes.

We'll also have Mark Darrah, Mike Laidelaw and David Gaider from the Dragon Age team as well as me and Jessica for Cmomunity.

Sir, I like you and all but you seriously need to remember to proofread your posts.

[Tazzmission]

Hydralysk wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

again can you keep every promise you make?

also again show me the exact quote where a dev said i promise the ending wont be bad

if you can not provide the proof then yea your twisting what your reading

again can you keep every promise you make?
If you can't then you shouldn't be making promises in the first place, the idea behind promises is that yes you are supposed to keep them. If you find yourself unable to keep them for whatever reason, then you tell your customers BEFORE they spend money on your product, not just keep silent and pretend they don't notice and call you out on it.

also again show me the exact quote where a dev said i promise the ending wont be bad
"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

These aren't claims that the end won't be bad (which is useless since that's a subjective term anyways) but these are promises nontheless that are obviously false. There are many other claims made by developers about the ending but these are some of the ones that aren't just misleading but outright false.

I could link you the thread with the rest, but I'm pretty sure you've already seen them since you're the first person with a response to it.

again casey never said the 2 words i promise now did he?

[AndroLeonidas]

Tazzmission wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Exactly ho wmany people are going to buy a DLC that takes place before the ending when we already know the ending. All three horrific ones! Oh wait... the single one with three colors. I will not buy anything until the ending is fixed. Period.

: coughbscough:

lol! No... not :coughbscough:

Nice of you to be rude though and try and speak for me.

However... I choose what I spend my money on... and there is simply no point in buying a DLC that takes place before the ending as it stands now. None. So until the ending is fixed... Bioware gets no more money from me. And that isn't :coughBScough:. Sorry.

[AdmiralCheez]

Tazzmission wrote...

again casey never said the 2 words i promise now did he?

That awkward moment where you can't tell if someone is trolling or actually serious.

[Nepp]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Nepp wrote...

Ouch.. I noticed Laidlaw is gunna be there.. The lead from that craptastic game DA2 really isn't a good idea to mix with the ME team...

Each franchise has its own panel. The DA panel should be more interesting since we'll get our first concrete details about DA3 and the direction it's headed in. ME3 panel will either be about fixing thier ****-ups or not fixing them and giving us unrelated mid-game DLC instead.

Hopefully it will be about selectable races, hawke dead and erased from existance, and not cramming Dragon Age into the Mass Effect mold.

Ya know, a deep real RPG, and not a lame ass attempt at a hack 'n slash action RPG in the ME Mold.

[Tazzmission]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Exactly ho wmany people are going to buy a DLC that takes place before the ending when we already know the ending. All three horrific ones! Oh wait... the single one with three colors. I will not buy anything until the ending is fixed. Period.

: coughbscough:

lol! No... not :coughbscough:

Nice of you to be rude though and try and speak for me.

However... I choose what I spend my money on... and there is simply no point in buying a DLC that takes place before the ending as it stands now. None. So until the ending is fixed... Bioware gets no more money from me. And that isn't :coughBScough:. Sorry.

im sorry it is a bunch of bs


all the people who say they are not gona buy the dlc i will in fact call bluff

im not telling you how to spend your money im saying dont bark words you yourself cant keep

[WizenSlinky0]

Tazzmission wrote...
again can you keep every promise you make?

I don't make promises I can't keep. I take the matter of promising to do something very, very seriously. I take the matter of even IMPLYING I'll do something very, very seriously. If I do have to break one for some reason I am more upset with myself usually than the other person is with me. I'll usually apologize, profusely, for hours. Tell them how I totally thought I could do it. How much of a failure I am. Yadda, yadda.

Not saying someone should ever beat themselves up like I do to myself but one should not make promises they are unable to keep. If one does, they should admit to it and apologize. That is built into the way I approach people.

This is a general comment. Not directed at Bioware, as i'm not commenting on whether or not they promised me something I didn't get or not.

[Tazzmission]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

again casey never said the 2 words i promise now did he?

That awkward moment where you can't tell if someone is trolling or actually serious.

really wise guy? show me those 2 exact key words that says i promise


if you cant prove it hey guess what you misread what the man said