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#76
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Tazzmission wrote...

im sorry it is a bunch of bs

all the people who say they are not gona buy the dlc i will in fact call bluff

im not telling you how to spend your money im saying dont bark words you yourself cant keep


I didn't buy dlc for Dragon Age 2. Do you know how difficult that was? Hint hint: it wasn't.

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Tazzmission wrote...
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and again you still crafted your story did you not?

you can be a good or bad guy right?


you can basicly keep whoever you want alive right?

your soul argument is it isnt art because you have no controll whatsoever over the ending

dont you find that kind of pathetic for an argument?


let me make one thing clear the developers the owners of these ip's we play dont owe us anything and we sure as heck arent entitled to everything because we believe we are owed.

since when has it ever been a contractual thing at all?

thats how you sound dude




yes
yes
No
No, almost the entire game seems to happen the same way almost regardless of what you had done up to that point, Like with the Racni queen.
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Promises were not kept simple promises that directly mislead us to having false belifs. Entitlement is not needed.
Since the ads and interviews were full of lies.
Umm, you never quoted me so... the last line makes no real sense, unless you mean that i sound like some questioner.

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Tazzmission wrote...

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Tazzmission wrote...

again casey never said the 2 words i promise now did he?

That awkward moment where you can't tell if someone is trolling or actually serious.



really wise guy? show me those 2 exact key words that says i promise


if you cant prove it hey guess what you misread what the man said


The legal definition of "Implied promise" and principles of "Good faith" would generally disagree with your assertion that the actual word promise is necessary.

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slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
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and again you still crafted your story did you not?

you can be a good or bad guy right?


you can basicly keep whoever you want alive right?

your soul argument is it isnt art because you have no controll whatsoever over the ending

dont you find that kind of pathetic for an argument?


let me make one thing clear the developers the owners of these ip's we play dont owe us anything and we sure as heck arent entitled to everything because we believe we are owed.

since when has it ever been a contractual thing at all?

thats how you sound dude




yes
yes
No
No, almost the entire game seems to happen the same way almost regardless of what you had done up to that point, Like with the Racni queen.
Maybe
Promises were not kept simple promises that directly mislead us to having false belifs. Entitlement is not needed.
Since the ads and interviews were full of lies.
Umm, you never quoted me so... the last line makes no real sense, unless you mean that i sound like some questioner.


Just report him (Tazz), ignore him and move on. Clearly trolling.

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Tazzmission wrote...

really wise guy? show me those 2 exact key words that says i promise

if you cant prove it hey guess what you misread what the man said

And now, another overdramatic analogy:

"Jump!  I'll catch you!"

*does not catch as you jump, watches you fall to your death*

"Heh.  I didn't promise to catch you, now did I?"

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

really wise guy? show me those 2 exact key words that says i promise

if you cant prove it hey guess what you misread what the man said

And now, another overdramatic analogy:

"Jump!  I'll catch you!"

*does not catch as you jump, watches you fall to your death*

"Heh.  I didn't promise to catch you, now did I?"


Exactly. He is just being a nuisance. The promise was clearly there, everyone knows it, even though they do not want to.

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slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
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and again you still crafted your story did you not?

you can be a good or bad guy right?


you can basicly keep whoever you want alive right?

your soul argument is it isnt art because you have no controll whatsoever over the ending

dont you find that kind of pathetic for an argument?


let me make one thing clear the developers the owners of these ip's we play dont owe us anything and we sure as heck arent entitled to everything because we believe we are owed.

since when has it ever been a contractual thing at all?

thats how you sound dude




yes
yes
No
No, almost the entire game seems to happen the same way almost regardless of what you had done up to that point, Like with the Racni queen.
Maybe
Promises were not kept simple promises that directly mislead us to having false belifs. Entitlement is not needed.
Since the ads and interviews were full of lies.
.



keeping every promise is impossible

why is that so hard to understand?

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BW quote, not any direct promise but still lots of lies and very misleading. It is unacceptable, unacceptable, absolutely unacceptable.
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2

#84
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Tazzmission wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
...
and again you still crafted your story did you not?

you can be a good or bad guy right?


you can basicly keep whoever you want alive right?

your soul argument is it isnt art because you have no controll whatsoever over the ending

dont you find that kind of pathetic for an argument?


let me make one thing clear the developers the owners of these ip's we play dont owe us anything and we sure as heck arent entitled to everything because we believe we are owed.

since when has it ever been a contractual thing at all?

thats how you sound dude




yes
yes
No
No, almost the entire game seems to happen the same way almost regardless of what you had done up to that point, Like with the Racni queen.
Maybe
Promises were not kept simple promises that directly mislead us to having false belifs. Entitlement is not needed.
Since the ads and interviews were full of lies.
.



keeping every promise is impossible

why is that so hard to understand?


Then don't make them. Why is that so hard to understand?

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I look forward to seeing the...result of the panel. In all my time as a gamer, I've never seen a fanbase so unified over something they hated as the ME fans. The fact that so many publications are drawing attention to it (CNN, BBC, Forbes, New Yorker, gaming media, etc.), with a surprising number of them taking the side of the fans, seems to show to me that BW was not ready for the response of this caliber.

Whatever the case, you all need to hold the line. You're in uncharted waters, but (to quote that infamous brat), "you have hope...more than you know."

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Tazzmission wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
...
and again you still crafted your story did you not?

you can be a good or bad guy right?


you can basicly keep whoever you want alive right?

your soul argument is it isnt art because you have no controll whatsoever over the ending

dont you find that kind of pathetic for an argument?


let me make one thing clear the developers the owners of these ip's we play dont owe us anything and we sure as heck arent entitled to everything because we believe we are owed.

since when has it ever been a contractual thing at all?

thats how you sound dude




yes
yes
No
No, almost the entire game seems to happen the same way almost regardless of what you had done up to that point, Like with the Racni queen.
Maybe
Promises were not kept simple promises that directly mislead us to having false belifs. Entitlement is not needed.
Since the ads and interviews were full of lies.
.



keeping every promise is impossible

why is that so hard to understand?







It was THE promise. Keeping that was pretty important.
Much more important than implementing multiplayer for a crpg for example.

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slyguy200 wrote...

BW quote, not any direct promise but still lots of lies and very misleading. It is unacceptable, unacceptable, absolutely unacceptable.
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2


ok so the promises can now stop being used as a crappy excuse

so like i stated you guys over reacted because you either didnt read what the man has said, or you took it upon yourself to twist things around or you jumped the gun as usual

and heck if people did read that then yea imo they have no right to tell bioware to change there ending becaus eit is stated by you no direct promises

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Tazzmission wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
...
and again you still crafted your story did you not?

you can be a good or bad guy right?


you can basicly keep whoever you want alive right?

your soul argument is it isnt art because you have no controll whatsoever over the ending

dont you find that kind of pathetic for an argument?


let me make one thing clear the developers the owners of these ip's we play dont owe us anything and we sure as heck arent entitled to everything because we believe we are owed.

since when has it ever been a contractual thing at all?

thats how you sound dude




yes
yes
No
No, almost the entire game seems to happen the same way almost regardless of what you had done up to that point, Like with the Racni queen.
Maybe
Promises were not kept simple promises that directly mislead us to having false belifs. Entitlement is not needed.
Since the ads and interviews were full of lies.
.



keeping every promise is impossible

why is that so hard to understand?







True, but the fact is that they could have at least fulfilled the more major ones, that couldn't have been to hard. They (at the time) were in almost complete control and could have easily done it.
Why is that so hard to understand?

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Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release, people kind of expect it to be in there.

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Tiercel24 wrote...

Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release. People kind of expect it to be in there.


Exactly. Whether they throw an "I promise" on top of that is irrelevant. If the box of the game says Mass Effect, I would hope the game disc actually contains a copy of Mass Effect. Basic principle.

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Tiercel24 wrote...

Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release. People kind of expect it to be in there.


realisticly things chang dude


if people never understand that then im sorry but they set themselves up for a dissapointment

release dates get pushed back all the time and people dont whine and cry omg they promised or they flat out lie all the time

do people just expect ea and bioware to push me3 back another year just because the fans want what they want?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 28 mars 2012 - 05:10 .


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Il Divo wrote...

Tiercel24 wrote...

Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release. People kind of expect it to be in there.


Exactly. Whether they throw an "I promise" on top of that is irrelevant. If the box of the game says Mass Effect, I would hope the game disc actually contains a copy of Mass Effect. Basic principle.


Well, they didn't *promise* to put Mass Effect there. ;)

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ok so the promises can now stop being used as a crappy excuse

so like i stated you guys over reacted because you either didnt read what the man has said, or you took it upon yourself to twist things around or you jumped the gun as usual

and heck if people did read that then yea imo they have no right to tell bioware to change there ending becaus eit is stated by you no direct promises


Okay, find another one... and fail to disprove that one too.
No, did you read that at all they said things that were directly untrue, and were obviously made to make us believe false things, No twisting was required for this reaction to happen.
Sure, but as i said, it is still unacceptable and full of lies and misleading statements, and will not become acceptable until this problem is correctly solved.

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Nepp wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Tiercel24 wrote...

Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release. People kind of expect it to be in there.


Exactly. Whether they throw an "I promise" on top of that is irrelevant. If the box of the game says Mass Effect, I would hope the game disc actually contains a copy of Mass Effect. Basic principle.


Well, they didn't *promise* to put Mass Effect there. ;)


Damn! You got me, man. Image IPB

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Il Divo wrote...

Tiercel24 wrote...

Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release. People kind of expect it to be in there.


Exactly. Whether they throw an "I promise" on top of that is irrelevant. If the box of the game says Mass Effect, I would hope the game disc actually contains a copy of Mass Effect. Basic principle.


I'm just imagining the shop clerk smugly smiling when you want your money back, responding:

"It didn't say "We promise the disc is inside" did it? Muhahahahaaaaa!"

Tazzmission, stop the trolling, please. It's beyond ridiculous already.

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Tiercel24 wrote...

Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release, people kind of expect it to be in there.



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Tazzmission wrote...
realisticly things chang dude

if people never understand that then im sorry but they set themselves up for a dissapointment

release dates get pushed back all the time and people dont whine and cry omg they promised or they flat out lie all the time

do people just expect ea and bioware to push me3 back another year just because the fans want what they want?

The interivew where Casey Hudson stated that was a month before the game went gold. I don't think they could of changed much in that time frame.

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I'd like to go to represent the fanbase but Boston is far from Louisiana!

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L00p wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Tiercel24 wrote...

Sorry but if you say something is going to be in the game before its release. People kind of expect it to be in there.


Exactly. Whether they throw an "I promise" on top of that is irrelevant. If the box of the game says Mass Effect, I would hope the game disc actually contains a copy of Mass Effect. Basic principle.


I'm just imagining the shop clerk smugly smiling when you want your money back, responding:

"It didn't say "We promise the disc is inside" did it? Muhahahahaaaaa!"

Tazzmission, stop the trolling, please. It's beyond ridiculous already.


Hate to say it but he may actually be dull enough to believe what he is typing up.

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I'd like to go to represent the fanbase but Boston is far from Louisiana!


Me too, and Oslo is even further away =(