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[erikage]

Garrus lost his squad due to betrayal.
Ashley lost hers by stinking it up. So the squad argument is valid.

Miranda was engineered to be "perfect." That automatically gives Miranda an edge. Basically she can do anything Ashley can if Miranda wishes.(Except have children)

[TobiTobsen]

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Xivai wrote...

Miranda. Ashley got taken out like a punk on mars.

And who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Miranda?

Because Miranda has advanced biotics that she could use against the robot. Ashley has grenades etc of course but you need time to prepare and use those. In that particular situation the quick application of Overload or Slam/Warp would have given Miranda the edge.

In a one-on-one battle i think Miranda would have the edge as she can use her wide range of skills to manipulate the enviroment or her enemy. But on a battlefield, such as the Earth mission, i think Ashley would have the advantage because of her equipment, training and experience being suitable for exactly that. 

The last time I checked my game Miranda was stabbed by a freak with a sword.

I don't see how that is somehow more badass than being beaten to a pulp by a robot. They both fail from time to time

[pprrff]

erikage wrote...

Garrus lost his squad due to betrayal.
Ashley lost hers by stinking it up. So the squad argument is valid.

Miranda was engineered to be "perfect." That automatically gives Miranda an edge. Basically she can do anything Ashley can if Miranda wishes.(Except have children)

Also Garrus lost his squad to mercs

Ashley lost hers to good old Sovy and his geth pals, yea, its easy to forget that she was the first one to fight the reapers in the whole trilogy.

[Purple People Eater]

Ashley has trust issues and Miranda has daddy issues. Pick your poison.

[Grimez7]

erikage wrote...

Garrus lost his squad due to betrayal.
Ashley lost hers by stinking it up. So the squad argument is valid.

Miranda was engineered to be "perfect." That automatically gives Miranda an edge. Basically she can do anything Ashley can if Miranda wishes.(Except have children)

she walked into a geth ambush, no way she could have saw that coming

[pprrff]

Rhz wrote...

wow so much support for miranda

.... remember she wanted to implant a controll chip into your body?

This one preferes Ashley.

Which kinda supports her Paranoia, remeber how she compares Shepard to a Husk and being controlled without know it, it's wasn't too far off judging by that

[cg8900]

Rhz wrote...

wow so much support for miranda

.... remember she wanted to implant a controll chip into your body?

This one preferes Ashley.

well she didn't know you then, she was just doing her job, plus at that time she was still blinded by cerberus
she says sorry later if you talk to her

ash on the other hand, just keep on whining about you working for cerberus, even though you explain for her like a thousand times that you didn't have a choice

[Rogue Unit]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Xivai wrote...

Miranda. Ashley got taken out like a punk on mars.

And who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Miranda?

Because Miranda has advanced biotics that she could use against the robot. Ashley has grenades etc of course but you need time to prepare and use those. In that particular situation the quick application of Overload or Slam/Warp would have given Miranda the edge.

In a one-on-one battle i think Miranda would have the edge as she can use her wide range of skills to manipulate the enviroment or her enemy. But on a battlefield, such as the Earth mission, i think Ashley would have the advantage because of her equipment, training and experience being suitable for exactly that. 

The last time I checked my game Miranda was stabbed by a freak with a sword.

I don't see how that is somehow more badass than being beaten to a pulp by a robot. They both fail from time to time

Kai Leng is a N7 trained marine with Reaper tech upgrades. And Miranda managed to escape with her life. Eva would have kill Ashley if Shepard weren't there.

[ahandsomeshark]

Purple People Eater wrote...

Ashley has trust issues and Miranda has daddy issues. Pick your poison.

everyone in the game has daddy issues.

[LegacyOfTheAsh]

My opinion is so much better than your opinions. I don't know why people try to argue about it when it comes down to preference. You like who you like.

PS, Ashley is my second favorite character in Mass Effect. It is a really close second though. That in no way means that I think my girl is better than your girl. Just means I love Ash and just like Miri.

[BatmanPWNS]

Rogue Unit wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Xivai wrote...

Miranda. Ashley got taken out like a punk on mars.

And who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Miranda?

Because Miranda has advanced biotics that she could use against the robot. Ashley has grenades etc of course but you need time to prepare and use those. In that particular situation the quick application of Overload or Slam/Warp would have given Miranda the edge.

In a one-on-one battle i think Miranda would have the edge as she can use her wide range of skills to manipulate the enviroment or her enemy. But on a battlefield, such as the Earth mission, i think Ashley would have the advantage because of her equipment, training and experience being suitable for exactly that. 

The last time I checked my game Miranda was stabbed by a freak with a sword.

I don't see how that is somehow more badass than being beaten to a pulp by a robot. They both fail from time to time

Kai Leng is a N7 trained marine with Reaper tech upgrades. And Miranda managed to escape with her life. Eva would have kill Ashley if Shepard weren't there.

And Leng would have killed Miri if Shep didn't warn her. See how that works?

[Grimez7]

Rogue Unit wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Xivai wrote...

Miranda. Ashley got taken out like a punk on mars.

And who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Miranda?

Because Miranda has advanced biotics that she could use against the robot. Ashley has grenades etc of course but you need time to prepare and use those. In that particular situation the quick application of Overload or Slam/Warp would have given Miranda the edge.

In a one-on-one battle i think Miranda would have the edge as she can use her wide range of skills to manipulate the enviroment or her enemy. But on a battlefield, such as the Earth mission, i think Ashley would have the advantage because of her equipment, training and experience being suitable for exactly that. 

The last time I checked my game Miranda was stabbed by a freak with a sword.

I don't see how that is somehow more badass than being beaten to a pulp by a robot. They both fail from time to time

Kai Leng is a N7 trained marine with Reaper tech upgrades. And Miranda managed to escape with her life. Eva would have kill Ashley if Shepard weren't there.

Miranda knew Kai Leng was coming and took precautions, she even stated that if she didn't she would have died. Ashley had mere seconds/feet to respond to a super advanced AI made of solid steel.

Modifié par Grimez7, 28 mars 2012 - 09:05 .

[ahandsomeshark]

Rogue Unit wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Xivai wrote...

Miranda. Ashley got taken out like a punk on mars.

And who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Miranda?

Because Miranda has advanced biotics that she could use against the robot. Ashley has grenades etc of course but you need time to prepare and use those. In that particular situation the quick application of Overload or Slam/Warp would have given Miranda the edge.

In a one-on-one battle i think Miranda would have the edge as she can use her wide range of skills to manipulate the enviroment or her enemy. But on a battlefield, such as the Earth mission, i think Ashley would have the advantage because of her equipment, training and experience being suitable for exactly that. 

The last time I checked my game Miranda was stabbed by a freak with a sword.

I don't see how that is somehow more badass than being beaten to a pulp by a robot. They both fail from time to time

Kai Leng is a N7 trained marine with Reaper tech upgrades. And Miranda managed to escape with her life. Eva would have kill Ashley if Shepard weren't there.

EV is a synthetic bot made for infiltration and combat with reaper tech upgrades. There's not really that big of a difference.

[Rogue Unit]

pprrff wrote...

Rhz wrote...

wow so much support for miranda

.... remember she wanted to implant a controll chip into your body?

This one preferes Ashley.

Which kinda supports her Paranoia, remeber how she compares Shepard to a Husk and being controlled without know it, it's wasn't too far off judging by that

Yup, because TIM would totally order Shepard to wipe out squad after squad of his Cerberus troops and prevent Eva from killing Ashley.

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 28 mars 2012 - 09:06 .

[Rogue Unit]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Xivai wrote...

Miranda. Ashley got taken out like a punk on mars.

And who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Miranda?

Because Miranda has advanced biotics that she could use against the robot. Ashley has grenades etc of course but you need time to prepare and use those. In that particular situation the quick application of Overload or Slam/Warp would have given Miranda the edge.

In a one-on-one battle i think Miranda would have the edge as she can use her wide range of skills to manipulate the enviroment or her enemy. But on a battlefield, such as the Earth mission, i think Ashley would have the advantage because of her equipment, training and experience being suitable for exactly that. 

The last time I checked my game Miranda was stabbed by a freak with a sword.

I don't see how that is somehow more badass than being beaten to a pulp by a robot. They both fail from time to time

Kai Leng is a N7 trained marine with Reaper tech upgrades. And Miranda managed to escape with her life. Eva would have kill Ashley if Shepard weren't there.

EV is a synthetic bot made for infiltration and combat with reaper tech upgrades. There's not really that big of a difference.

Except that Miranda survived one vs one and Ashley would have died without backup. Even without a weapon she managed to nearly kill Ashley (who is wearing Heavy armor).

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 28 mars 2012 - 09:08 .

[cg8900]

Rogue Unit wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Troubleshooter11 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Xivai wrote...

Miranda. Ashley got taken out like a punk on mars.

And who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to Miranda?

Because Miranda has advanced biotics that she could use against the robot. Ashley has grenades etc of course but you need time to prepare and use those. In that particular situation the quick application of Overload or Slam/Warp would have given Miranda the edge.

In a one-on-one battle i think Miranda would have the edge as she can use her wide range of skills to manipulate the enviroment or her enemy. But on a battlefield, such as the Earth mission, i think Ashley would have the advantage because of her equipment, training and experience being suitable for exactly that. 

The last time I checked my game Miranda was stabbed by a freak with a sword.

I don't see how that is somehow more badass than being beaten to a pulp by a robot. They both fail from time to time

Kai Leng is a N7 trained marine with Reaper tech upgrades. And Miranda managed to escape with her life. Eva would have kill Ashley if Shepard weren't there.

EV is a synthetic bot made for infiltration and combat with reaper tech upgrades. There's not really that big of a difference.

Except that Miranda survived one vs one and Ashley would have died without backup. Even without a weapon she managed to nearly kill Ashley (who is wearing Heavy armor).

touche......sorry but no matter what, ash looses

[SNascimento]

How can people say there was no different between Eva and Kai Leng.
.
I mean, Shepard took her down easily.

[agathokakological]

I never liked Ashley. She was such a fcking xenophobe, it was ridiculous. To quote Bill Hicks, "Don't you think there'll be a time, when the Mothership comes down, when we'll put down the guns?" Aside from that, her character was bland and poorly-written. I had no feelings for her whatsoever.

Miranda, on the other hand, I felt had some real depth as a character. She had inner conflict, she had a backstory that I cared about, and she really had a reason to be tied into Shepard's story, the Mass Effect story. I never romanced her (Liara loyalist), but I can see the beauty in that romance. Miranda, who spends two years of her life building his man from scratch without any emotional ties to him falls in love with her own creation. That's beautiful.

Put that up against Ashley, who you just find on Eden Prime. Honestly, I'd prefer Jenkins.

Edit: In a fight, Miranda has biotics. Bam, no contest.

Modifié par agathokakological, 28 mars 2012 - 09:13 .

[TobiTobsen]

SNascimento wrote...

How can people say there was no different between Eva and Kai Leng.
.
I mean, Shepard took her down easily.

Just as he took down Kai Leng, when he wasn't backed up by a gunship ;D

[erikage]

pprrff wrote...

erikage wrote...

Garrus lost his squad due to betrayal.
Ashley lost hers by stinking it up. So the squad argument is valid.

Miranda was engineered to be "perfect." That automatically gives Miranda an edge. Basically she can do anything Ashley can if Miranda wishes.(Except have children)

Also Garrus lost his squad to mercs

Ashley lost hers to good old Sovy and his geth pals, yea, its easy to forget that she was the first one to fight the reapers in the whole trilogy.

I just watched the scene again. She didn't fight Sovereign directly. She lost her squad to the Geth. Which goes back to the point, Garrus lost his due to betrayal. Ashley isn't good at playing a leadership role. Even the whole udina thing shows that. Ambushes exist always in the mass effect universe.

To the point of the thread. Miranda would win 9 times out of 10 in a physical fight. Personally, annoying people lose verbal fights always. Some of you are just arguing which character you like better. That's something different.

Modifié par erikage, 28 mars 2012 - 09:13 .

[Rhz]

whatever ashley/garrus/shepard triple widow sniperrifle action

cant do that with miranda :S

Modifié par Rhz, 28 mars 2012 - 09:17 .

[SNascimento]

For me, it's clear that Ashley is not even in the same level as Miranda. The former should be compared with Jacob, Kaiden, Kasumi... while Miranda is the level of Samara, Garrus, Thane.

[Rogue Unit]

TobiTobsen wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

How can people say there was no different between Eva and Kai Leng.
.
I mean, Shepard took her down easily.

Just as he took down Kai Leng, when he wasn't backed up by a gunship ;D

Im sure it took more than a few shots to down KL. And even then KL still had fight in him.

[Justicar]

Well I me gusta Miranda and Ash is boring.

[Rhz]

while Miranda is the level of Samara, Garrus, Thane.

miranda isnt on the same level of samara regarding biotic strengh, play again the suicide mission and choose miranda to hold up the biotic barrier during the long walk

this doesnt end well