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Hi all ME3 Multiplayer friends from far away galaxies =)

This was just an idea I had tossing around in my head for a few days and wanted to see what you all thought. Anyone both skilled or non-skilled in ME3 MP could join in. I love the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer and thought it would be cool to add a fun twist to it. While I am totally cool with the PvE setting the MP has I thought it would be cool to have a player vs player (or essentially a team vs team) friendly style tournament. For everyone who loves competition (respectful competition that is) in games then this might be just for you. So how would this work exactly? Well here is my proposed idea, if enough people think it's a fun idea then I'll create a group and spend more time fleshing it out. As for now here is my rough idea below:

Many teams start out in 1v1 bracket style elimination rounds where the objective to beating the other team is finishing a match either faster in a time trial mode or a total team score. To make more sense of what it would look like I put together a very rough draft of what the brackets would look like, it's not very good but here is what it would sorta look like (I'd make a much better one for the 'official' tournament if we do this):

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Tournament Bracket Enlarged

(I used xbox but we could have a PS3 and PC tournament bracket as well so every platform can join in on the fun)
Listed in this bracket are the style of game modes (that I've thought of so far), Time Trial, Total Score, Lowest Scorer, and Main Slayer:

Time Trial:

Think your team can be faster than the other team in completing all 11 waves faster than them? Time trial the objective is to blast through all 11 waves as fast as possible. If your team has a faster time than the other team your team will advance in the brackets. Time penalties are added to teams that only get a partial extraction or do not finish all 11 waves. Team that complete all 11 waves and get a full extraction receive no penalties. It's all about mad dashing like a pro through the match to get the fastest time possible while trying to keep your team alive. If neither team can pass wave 11 the team that got farther will advance.

Total Score:

It's time to rack up as many points as possible in this game style. The team that receives a higher total score (not individual player score) will advance in the brackets. Point bonuses are given to teams that gain a full extraction and complete wave 11. If neither team can pass wave 11 the team with a higher score will advance.

Lowest Scorer:

Teamwork matters more in this game mode than any other. In order to advance to the next winners bracket in this mode is judged by the player on your team who had the lowest score. If your team's lowest scorer had a higher score than the opposing team's lowest scorer your team would advance. Point penalties are given to teams that do not complete wave 11 or get a full extraction.  If neither team can pass wave 11 the team that got farther will advance. 

Main Slayer:

Like Lowest scorer this mode is just the opposite. Have one player on your team get as many points as possible. If your team's highest scorer had a higher score than the opposing team's highest scorer your team will advance in the winner's bracket.  If neither team can pass wave 11 the team that got farther will advance. 

Final notes:

-The main idea is to give those that love a little competition and want to spice up the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer a little fun. Even if you are not super competitive everyone would be welcome to join. It's just like playing normally but with a team with the goal to be faster or better than the team you are competing against.

-Each round would of course have both teams playing on the same map, enemy, and difficulty. Also in order to make it fair since not all matches are the same (like you can't control where the objectives are or when they happen) each team could choose their best out of 3 matches and choose the best one to submit to the brackets for that round. 

-Submitting scores for each round would consist of the team leader or a player on that team sending an image of the best game stats that clearly shows all team players names, total score, and the time completed. An example would be something like this capture I got: Team Score example A camera or capture card device will do, anything that can get a screenshot of that score screen (and is easily readable) would do. It's really the only way to make sure know one is cheating and the scores each team got is actually legit. Outside of actually watching the players livestream, which not everyone could do, it's the best way to prove the stats. I'd hope everyoen who joined in on thsi would be honest enough to post the real socres since it's just for fun after all =)

-As for teams, the team would be the same 4 players for the entire tournament. While I could make a whole list of disqualifications the major one would be failing to submit a score for the round in the allotted time or not having the same players you started the tournament with. All matches would be done in a private lobby of course with just your team fo 4.

- I can make graphics very well so essentially I could make each team a team logo. Give everyone who is on a team a sort of identity and make the big name teams shine =) The logo wold consist of something related to the Mass Effect universe most likely or at least tournament worthy. I also live stream on twitch.tv in 720p. While I can't stream other team's matches (obviously) I could stream my own team's matches until we get eliminated.

- What does the winning team win? Bragging rights, personal satisfaction of being good at MP, and your team and player names 1st in the bracket image. maybe we'll have real rewards later but for not it would be just for fun.
Well that is all I really have. Let me know if you all think this is a cool / fun idea or a bad one. I figured I'd toss out there and see if it's something others may find of interest. I didn't list every detail for this tournament since I just wanted to get the main points across. If it gets enough of a following I will expand in further detail later.
thanks for your time :)

Modifié par Mystical_Gaming, 28 mars 2012 - 04:53 .


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I think this is a great idea for a community run event, my good man/woman/Geth.

If I could actually gather up a team I'd sign us up for sure.

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Broganisity wrote...

I think this is a great idea for a community run event, my good man/woman/Geth.

If I could actually gather up a team I'd sign us up for sure.


Teams could be with friends or just others that love ME3 multiplayer. I don't have a team myself so not to worry, we'd sort that out in a group section for sure =)

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True. I'd say that you should account for some other things as well.

I'd also suggest sub-judging a group on credits (shows speed of objectives completed) but with how varied they could be (also Cobra missiles)... Yeah, can't think of anything to contribute, you've just about gotten everything covered.

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Broganisity wrote...

True. I'd say that you should account for some other things as well.

I'd also suggest sub-judging a group on credits (shows speed of objectives completed) but with how varied they could be (also Cobra missiles)... Yeah, can't think of anything to contribute, you've just about gotten everything covered.


I'm sure I've missed some other fun game modes or ways to judge which team would advance. I know there are far more skilled and expert players that understand ME3 MP more than I. All ideas are welcome =)

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Well now that I think about it, you could have some limitations in play such as:

No more than one class/character per group (so a group couldn't be all Infiltrators or Asari Adepts).

So yeah. Limitations. There's something you could do. It'd probably be harder to enforce other ones. Could also have other penalties besides Partial extraction or incomplete runs but those would probably harder to enforce as well. :|

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Broganisity wrote...

Well now that I think about it, you could have some limitations in play such as:

No more than one class/character per group (so a group couldn't be all Infiltrators or Asari Adepts).

So yeah. Limitations. There's something you could do. It'd probably be harder to enforce other ones. Could also have other penalties besides Partial extraction or incomplete runs but those would probably harder to enforce as well. :|


yeah I was thinking about class specifics but didn't really want to limit a team's decision on what characters or weapons they used. Guess it would depend on how they want the team built (like for racking up points for an individual player or speed running through missions faster.

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Woah we had the same idea OP. Yesterday i made a post like this where teams would be in the same game on a 2 v 2 system and the highest score among the two teams win. But you elborated a looooooot more haha so yeah i love this idea. Can i get your GT? I play on xbox as well, maybe we can test this out and make a vid proof that it works :D

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WhySoeSerius wrote...

Woah we had the same idea OP. Yesterday i made a post like this where teams would be in the same game on a 2 v 2 system and the highest score among the two teams win. But you elborated a looooooot more haha so yeah i love this idea. Can i get your GT? I play on xbox as well, maybe we can test this out and make a vid proof that it works :D


glad to see like minded people on here. my GT is the same as my user name here on the forums but my firends list is full. I'll have to make room sometime lol

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Lol i have to delete plp everyday to make room for new ones. Wish more plp would give support to this

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 No.

Competition + gaming = epeen flaunting. 

This is why nobody likes MLG.

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This guy shot down my idea too. I guess just different plp with different opinions bcuz personally i love mlg as do many others. Competition can add spark to a game. Also you have a choice in participating or not.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

 No.

Competition + gaming = epeen flaunting. 

This is why nobody likes MLG.


I don't see how having friendly competiton is flaunting. At the very least you meet more players this way to play with. This isn't MLG either, not sure where you got that idea.

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Mhmm. You can almost consider this as adding a new gamemode considering the growing number of people losing interest in multiplayer who want pvp.

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I could see a problem with basing a win on how fast you complete the mission - a team of all Vanguards or Infiltrators would probably dominate here, as they can control the map a lot better and deal damage to far away areas a lot faster. Going with a class limitation like Broganisity suggested could balance this.

With giving the win based on score - well, I'm not really sure but wouldn't everyone have a similar score? Or it might be a bit up to chance on what types of enemies you go up against. I don't know, because I'm not too sure on exactly how/why scores vary considering everyone has to do the same thing to complete a mission. I feel this could definitely be exploited.

Main slayer/lowest scorer basically depends on a single player, which sort of defeats the purpose of getting a team together.

So yeah, there would be some difficulties on deciding who would get the win. I feel your best bet would be to go by time but put some limitations on what classes can be used for the sake of fairness - which might be annoying, but it is the best option in my opinion.

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H3 Crimson wrote...

I could see a problem with basing a win on how fast you complete the mission - a team of all Vanguards or Infiltrators would probably dominate here, as they can control the map a lot better and deal damage to far away areas a lot faster. Going with a class limitation like Broganisity suggested could balance this.

With giving the win based on score - well, I'm not really sure but wouldn't everyone have a similar score? Or it might be a bit up to chance on what types of enemies you go up against. I don't know, because I'm not too sure on exactly how/why scores vary considering everyone has to do the same thing to complete a mission. I feel this could definitely be exploited.

Main slayer/lowest scorer basically depends on a single player, which sort of defeats the purpose of getting a team together.

So yeah, there would be some difficulties on deciding who would get the win. I feel your best bet would be to go by time but put some limitations on what classes can be used for the sake of fairness - which might be annoying, but it is the best option in my opinion.


thanks for the input . yeah if people feel class limitations would make it more fair we could do that. As for the score I think it differs depending on assists, headshots, and stuff like that. I'm looking at some of my recorded gameplay and final score differs quite a bit even being on the same map, enemy, and difficulty.

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Good idea.

But it is rather hard to implement and host this based on the current number of players. Massive headache due to arranging the matches, plus handling the possible (new) glitches on the system might keep this from being implemented.

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WhySoeSerius wrote...

This guy shot down my idea too. I guess just different plp with different opinions bcuz personally i love mlg as do many others. Competition can add spark to a game. Also you have a choice in participating or not.


It usually ends up destroying great MP games.

Gears 
Halo 
Rainbow Six

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Competition is what makes Gears so awesome. Seeing someone cant handle their 1v1s and pushing them every chance you get in a given game is amazingly fun, and promotes growth of player skill imo

As for this idea, I like it. Assuming the kinks got worked out, it could be a neat idea. Definitely something I'd keep an eye on.

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For score wise i thought you can have both teams in one game fighting for score. 2 v 2. As for op classes, we can have limitations.

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i think it's a great idea and as for it ruining the game as you suggested it would be a community run event not an actual change to the game itself, i think it is inevitable that bioware will introduce a PvP option at some point anyway but that's not the point, as WhySoSerious said play or don't play your choice, but seriously enough with the moaning people it's a great game i'ts far from perfect but who knows what perfect is.

OP - some brilliant ideas (also some i don't like mainly because i know i wouldn't be good at them). I really think we should light a fire under this. I have a few ideas of my own, i also have been involved in organising this type of tourney in the workplace and would be more than happy to help out on the logistics side, I have suggestions for a few of the problems posed in the thread but need to organise my thoughts a bit better.

anyway if you decide to take it a step further and are interested PM me - happy to get involved.

Do feel quite strongly about removing the individual elements though - one reason of many - we've all seen score****s coughkroganscough.

Modifié par alobsterboy, 28 mars 2012 - 09:46 .


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TexasToast712 wrote...

WhySoeSerius wrote...

This guy shot down my idea too. I guess just different plp with different opinions bcuz personally i love mlg as do many others. Competition can add spark to a game. Also you have a choice in participating or not.


It usually ends up destroying great MP games.

Gears 
Halo 
Rainbow Six



I don't see how Halo has been ruined by competition, Halo Reach is the most casual Halo game ever ... I hardly consider that Halo even lol but this isn't a debate / thread about how bad or good competition is. This is a thread for those that enjoy it. If you don't like it then more power to you but don't tell us how lame or silly we are for enjoying competition in games. Games are a meduim meant to be played for fun and in many different ways by many different players with different interests and apporachs to how they want to enjoy their gaming expereince.


alobsterboy wrote...

i think it's a great idea and as for it ruining the game as you suggested it would be a community run event not an actual change to the game itself, i think it is inevitable that bioware will introduce a PvP option at some point anyway but that's not the point, as WhySoSerious said play or don't play your choice, but seriously enough with the moaning people it's a great game i'ts far from perfect but who knows what perfect is.

OP - some brilliant ideas (also some i don't like mainly because i know i wouldn't be good at them). I really think we should light a fire under this. I have a few ideas of my own, i also have been involved in organising this type of tourney in the workplace and would be more than happy to help out on the logistics side, I have suggestions for a few of the problems posed in the thread but need to organise my thoughts a bit better.

anyway if you decide to take it a step further and are interested PM me - happy to get involved.

Do feel quite strongly about removing the individual elements though - one reason of many - we've all seen score****s coughkroganscough.


glad you like the ideas. Yeah I mainly just added a few brainstorming ideas for what we could do as opposed to these are the game modes we'd use lol. Just get get the wheels turning and give others a creative idea of what we could do to make the toruney interesting.

If it came down to just using time trial or total scores for the brackets i'd be fine with that. It's really whatever everyoen feels would work best once we iron out all the issues.

Modifié par Mystical_Gaming, 28 mars 2012 - 02:46 .


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Sounds good.

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