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#126
MustacheManatee

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BloodySunset__ wrote...

MentalKase wrote...

The best youtube answer for the only problem of Mass Effect 3.


Well, to me one of the biggest problems. The auto dialogue and "kasumi dlc" style character conversations are up there for me.

I actually liked those extra dialogues. Better than hearing Garrus ask me: "Can it wait?" 1,000 times because there are no more cut scene conversations. 

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You know your ending is bad when people will willingly watch a 40 minute video that talks about how bad the ending is.

It was pretty spot on for the most part too.

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jb1983 wrote...

Bioware needs to take everyone into a room and have them watch this thing on the big screen.

This is seriously one of the best replies to the ending I've seen. Scratch that. It's the best reply.


This 100% this. ^^^

And thank you OP, that was exactly the type of well thought out response I had been looking for.

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Sharn01 wrote...

You know your ending is bad when people will willingly watch a 40 minute video that talks about how bad the ending is.

It was pretty spot on for the most part too.


Its bad to the point where its not believable. I dont remember any other ending ever that has been so bad that I simply dont find it feasible

There is deus ex machina...and then there is the ending to mass effect 3

Modifié par Dendio1, 28 mars 2012 - 07:16 .


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Another good video from the fans.

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Fantastic vid, I agree with every point he made. Bioware needs to watch this.

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Well... I planned on going to bed 40 minutes ago to be honest...

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Dendio1 wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

You know your ending is bad when people will willingly watch a 40 minute video that talks about how bad the ending is.

It was pretty spot on for the most part too.


Its bad to the point where its not believable. I dont remember any other ending ever that has been so bad that I simply dont find it feasible

There is deus ex machina...and then there is the ending to mass effect 3


Couldn't agree more, I've never completed a game before and encountered and ending so terrible and out of key with the rest of the game that I had to check the internet to see if I screwed something up to end up with an ending that bad (keep in mind I ended the game with the *best* ending possible at 7000 assets and 100% readiness).

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he got plenty of points right that causing the current distress

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 I truly hope Bioware is able to spare 39 minutes to watch this video.  It captures very well what it is MANY of us dislike about the ending.

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I love seeing people posting this video on Mass Effect/Bioware twitters.

@masseffect said they've seen it already...

But whether they've actually watched it...well...

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 28 mars 2012 - 07:26 .


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cgvhjb wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

You know your ending is bad when people will willingly watch a 40 minute video that talks about how bad the ending is.

It was pretty spot on for the most part too.


Its bad to the point where its not believable. I dont remember any other ending ever that has been so bad that I simply dont find it feasible

There is deus ex machina...and then there is the ending to mass effect 3


Couldn't agree more, I've never completed a game before and encountered and ending so terrible and out of key with the rest of the game that I had to check the internet to see if I screwed something up to end up with an ending that bad (keep in mind I ended the game with the *best* ending possible at 7000 assets and 100% readiness).


I might have thought Assassins Creed 2 ending terrible if I had actually invested over 150 hours into its gameplay and cared about the characters. Then again I hadn't (literally no f***s were given when Ezio's family died in the beginning so no character investment), so yeah thats the difference. It was a decent action game with a questionable ending, but in a story driven game you just can't pull this s^*t off.

Modifié par foxlockbox, 28 mars 2012 - 07:28 .


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Excellent analysis of the series from the author of the video. Watch it Mass Effect production team, then fix ME3.

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This guy is on the forums you know. He has his own thread for this.

And he speaks the Truth. His solutions actually work;
-Remove Catalyst
-Keep the mood going
-Make it simple

All that really needs doing as a bare minimum. I'd like a lot more, but its definitely the best starting point.

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Phyzzix wrote...

Well... I planned on going to bed 40 minutes ago to be honest...



Yeah same here but it was worth it to watch it! Top marks for the video good sir.

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Sharn01 wrote...

You know your ending is bad when people will willingly watch a 40 minute video that talks about how bad the ending is.

It was pretty spot on for the most part too.


+1

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At first I was like, "39 minutes? No way I'm watching that." 40 minutes later, and it was worth it. Bioware, please sit everybody at the company down in a room, lock the door and play this video to them.

And don't return EA's texts when they ask what you're doing.

Modifié par Kadruk, 28 mars 2012 - 07:30 .


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FatalX7.0 wrote...

I love seeing people posting this video on Mass Effect/Bioware twitters.

@masseffect said they've seen it already...

But whether they've actually watched it...well...



The people running ME twitter have nothing to do with game developement and they're probably not gonna intcomm Hudson or Walters "Hey heres insightful video of how not to screw up a videogame ending, oh wait you did already, well it also tells how to fix it!".

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foxlockbox wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I love seeing people posting this video on Mass Effect/Bioware twitters.

@masseffect said they've seen it already...

But whether they've actually watched it...well...



The people running ME twitter have nothing to do with game developement and they're probably not gonna intcomm Hudson or Walters "Hey heres insightful video of how not to screw up a videogame ending, oh wait you did already, well it also tells how to fix it!".


Trust me I used to do a really similar job running interference at a gaming company and there is next to no way when they use a generalization that "they" (meaning "all" ME3 developers I guess) have already seen this video is anything other than their attempt to placate the person mentioning this on twitter. If they would have said something specific like "You know after taking a look at this video I've personally sent this over to Casey to take a look over since I think it does a pretty good job at laying out out players concerns about the ending, hopefully it will help him and our other Developers address these in the future" you might actually have hope you were getting something other than lipservice (sad to say =/)

Modifié par cgvhjb, 28 mars 2012 - 07:38 .


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This has been said before but Bioware REALLY needs to watch this.

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O man.. I just saw this on reddit and felt the need to spread the word... you beat me to it hah! Excellent review! Everyone needs to watch this. Probably the best review i've seen and for once. The reviewer sounds educated...

Modifié par Richard0600, 28 mars 2012 - 07:36 .


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FatalX7.0

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cgvhjb wrote...

foxlockbox wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I love seeing people posting this video on Mass Effect/Bioware twitters.

@masseffect said they've seen it already...

But whether they've actually watched it...well...



The people running ME twitter have nothing to do with game developement and they're probably not gonna intcomm Hudson or Walters "Hey heres insightful video of how not to screw up a videogame ending, oh wait you did already, well it also tells how to fix it!".


Trust me I used to do a really similar job running interference at a gaming company and there is next to no way that someone ran from the twitter feed into Casey's office (or any other Developers office) and told them to watch this.


Or you could, you know, post it on Casey's twitter. Or Mike's twitter.

https://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson

Which I did just now.


Oh wait, I didn't post it on Mike's yet. Okay, now I did.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 28 mars 2012 - 07:37 .


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Absolutely amazing synopsis of what is wrong with ME3, I can only hope that the folks at Bioware actually watch it. Don't let the length of the video put you off, it is definitely worth the 40 minutes.

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Really enjoyed it. The guy makes no pretense as to where he derived the style of his video from, but his main points are conveyed clearly and effectively. I have no doubts BioWare won't even glance at it, but they really, really should.

We do not want "clarity", BioWare. We need a new ending.

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Is there any way i can give this guy my money?