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For once, I think EA will actually benefit us (influence on ending dlc)


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Jeno_340

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 To start off, I just want to say that I believe in IT and I'm about to explain why.

I don't think EA would let Bioware sacrifice profits for "artistic integrity". If Bioware only elaborates on the current ending by adding a bit more dialogue and cutscenes, pretty much all their loyal fans are going to abandon them. These loyal fans are the ones that buy the dlc. Casual fans who didn't complain about the ending (or praise it), probably aren't going to buy the dlc the dlc either.

I think Bioware planned this along but they didn't expect the amount of damage a united group of 50,000 could do (30% price reduction in first two weeks, low user reviews, $100,000 in charity, 400 cupcakes, etc). If they actually had a good PR team, they could have stopped all of this in the first week by saying simply "the real ending is coming soon". Instead, they sacrificed a lot of money to keep everything a secret until April in order to preserve the greatest plot twist ever.

I think they couldn't finish the real ending in time so they threw together the POS we have now (notice reused textures, familiar places and objects, etc) and launched the game. When the real ending is finished, they will probably sell it to make an extra buck ( ea not benifitying us here).

The reason they are probably being hush right now is do that people will buy the game (thinking it was complete) instead of waiting for the real ending to come out when the price might be cheaper. That's my theory anyway . If I'm wrong, then Bioware and EA are going to lose a lot of money. I doubt EA would let that happen.

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but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?

And, btw, I'm 99% percent certain there's a thread on here citing someone on the ME3 team saying that WAS the intended ending.

Make that 99.9%.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Don't get the DLC if there is one.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Are there enough of them to make future DLC profitable if the ending isn't patched?

Clearly wasn't enough loyal fans who loved DAII to keep Bioware to their intended DLC schedule.

Capitalism, Ho!

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...
but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?
And, btw, I'm 99% percent certain there's a thread on here citing someone om the ME3 team saying that WAS the intended ending.
Make that 99.9%.

What are you whining about now?  Don't you want to benefit us?

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?

And, btw, I'm 99% percent certain there's a thread on here citing someone om the ME3 team saying that WAS the intended ending.

Make that 99.9%.

If they make a DLC that changes the ending, then just don't buy it. That way your ending doesn't have to change and the people who want the ending changed get what they wanted. It's a win-win!

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?

And, btw, I'm 99% percent certain there's a thread on here citing someone om the ME3 team saying that WAS the intended ending.

Make that 99.9%.

I'm not saying no one will by it. But most of us won't.

And yes, I saw the quote to. Bioware said they aren't changing the ending. They said they are doing something they already had planned. The IT theory is the only way they can use all of the existing ending. Unless they do some kind of epilogue which...if they charge for, hardly anybody is going to buy. They'll just watch it on YouTube.

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I've been saying this for awhile. People don't listen, however, because they want to blame everyone on EA. Apparently EA is responsible for the Holocaust and Jim Crow Laws. -_-'

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KingKhan03 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Don't get the DLC if there is one.


Maybe you shouldn't have bought the game with the ending it has.

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All this talk about Indoc theory, regardless of whether or not you believe in it, why couldn't that scene just have been a dream sequence Shep was having like the ones he had on the Normandy?

Doesn't have to be as elaborate as Indoc theory I don't think... Just, got beamed, knocked out, had dream sequence (which is what we saw in the existing ending), and post ending DLC can pick up with him waking up...?

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KingKhan03 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Don't get the DLC if there is one.


Not that simple. If there is a dlc then they would know that their ending is not correct.
Either you like it or not, we are all being very very selfish. But hey, if it gets me a new ending, I'm ready to ruin someone eles.
We all think that.

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Jeno_340 wrote...
I'm not saying no one will by it. But most of us won't.

And yes, I saw the quote to. Bioware said they aren't changing the ending. They said they are doing something they already had planned. The IT theory is the only way they can use all of the existing ending. Unless they do some kind of epilogue which...if they charge for, hardly anybody is going to buy. They'll just watch it on YouTube.


I wasn't referring to who would buy it. Just to your generalization about "loyal fans" hating the ending and "casual fans" not minding or liking it.


As for the bolded, the first sentence is complete conjecture, as is the second. I'm certain that a great deal of people would buy a DLC explaining the ending, seeing as how a lot of people have said they would buy a DLC ending...for a complete game that just came out. If they are willing to purchase a DLC for an ending, they'll vey likely be willing to purchase a DLC explaining the ending.

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CavScout wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Don't get the DLC if there is one.


Maybe you shouldn't have bought the game with the ending it has.


Many of us pre-ordered the game and tried to play through it without reading spoilers. Besides, if all of us took your suggestion then there would not have been many copies of the game sold.

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CavScout wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Don't get the DLC if there is one.


Maybe you shouldn't have bought the game with the ending it has.


Assuming most probably preordered...not sure how not buying an anticipated title with a then unknown ending would work.

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warrior256 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Don't get the DLC if there is one.


Maybe you shouldn't have bought the game with the ending it has.


Many of us pre-ordered the game and tried to play through it without reading spoilers. Besides, if all of us took your suggestion then there would not have been many copies of the game sold.


My response is sarcasm but if it's good for the goose...

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CavScout wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

but what about loyal fans who loved the ending?


Don't get the DLC if there is one.


Maybe you shouldn't have bought the game with the ending it has.

I probably wouldn't have but I decided to go completely spoiler free and didnt know a single thing about the game until launch.

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If they did hold off on the "real" ending then mass effect 3 would have to be the last bioware game I ever buy, isn't 60 dollars enough to play an entire game. Now I don't mind buying a "take back omega" dlc as it's just extra story being told, it's not the ending of a game being sold back to me after I thought I had paid for it...seeing how it says the "epic" conclusion right there on the box

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Mad-Max90 wrote...

If they did hold off on the "real" ending then mass effect 3 would have to be the last bioware game I ever buy, isn't 60 dollars enough to play an entire game. Now I don't mind buying a "take back omega" dlc as it's just extra story being told, it's not the ending of a game being sold back to me after I thought I had paid for it...seeing how it says the "epic" conclusion right there on the box


Don't forget the CE was 80 instead of the previous-standard of $70.

And the PC game was $60 instead of the previous-standard of $50.

Modifié par Dreogan, 28 mars 2012 - 05:22 .


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C&C 4 was turned into an always online game that had no tiberium no base building and where the last image you see of the ending is that

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now the fanbase went into a uber epic rage about it during the beta phase and the rage was something that makes the ME3 retake movement look like nothing

and yet that was EA's plan and nothign was done the game was released sold les then 10 000 copies of wich 9000 were turned back and the multiplayer server were closed 3 month after launch and the franchise died now they are trying to bring it back with a wierd browser game


so no EA does not thing on long them EA is about fast and easy profit little investment big returns they are not goign to invest into fixing anything they are just going to kill the franchise asap and run with our money

Modifié par granyte, 28 mars 2012 - 05:24 .


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I wasn't referring to who would buy it. Just to your generalization about "loyal fans" hating the ending and "casual fans" not minding or liking it.

As for the bolded, the first sentence is complete conjecture, as is the second. I'm certain that a great deal of people would buy a DLC explaining the ending, seeing as how a lot of people have said they would buy a DLC ending...for a complete game that just came out. If they are willing to purchase a DLC for an ending, they'll vey likely be willing to purchase a DLC explaining the ending.

No one wants to purchase an explanation for an ending. A good ending doesn't need an explanation, much less one that requires money to access. However, when it comes to a whole new ending that will give us what we want, many of us would gladly Pay $10-15 so that $200 worth of games aren't ruined like they are now (I can't bring myself to even touch anything ME related). 

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I would have had been stuck with the collector's edition too, if best buy hadn't sold my pre-order copy to somebody else...in the end I'm glad they did

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No **** BioWare is going to stick to their guns and keep saying this is the ending... If you actually read and understand the plausible indoc. theory then you will realize it would make so much sense, the plot twist intended is something they want the fans to be hit hard with in future DLC... I think they will give us the true ending in DLC. But I could always be wrong. :l

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Maybe you shouldn't have bought the game with the ending it has.


Maybe nobody knew exactly what the ending would be when it came out? Your logic astounds me.

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Jeno_340 wrote...
No one wants to purchase an explanation for an ending. A good ending doesn't need an explanation, much less one that requires money to access. However, when it comes to a whole new ending that will give us what we want, many of us would gladly Pay $10-15 so that $200 worth of games aren't ruined like they are now (I can't bring myself to even touch anything ME related). 


Please tell me how you know that.

Because it's pure speculation.

Check this out, from Ray Muzyka, co-founder of BW.

Please show me where you see anything about ending DLC, as opposed to explanations and "closure" and "clarity to questions" <--those are quotes.