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For once, I think EA will actually benefit us (influence on ending dlc)


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Omg this thread did not go where I wanted it to go


They never do. They never do...

My favorite threads all stopped within less than a page, with few views, while the odd ones got lots of views. Just the way it goes.


Also, am I the only one getting ads at the bottom of the new post page?

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Everyone just ignore these trolls. It is obvious that these people are out to get a reaction from us and make our movement look bad. Let them post their little arguments about how we are obsessive whiners. It means nothing to me. Anyway, back to the buisness at hand.

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Dear god, are you people still on about the damn endings?

Look man, I thought the endings were absolute tripe, was hugely disappointed in the game, and voiced my dissatisfaction on here accordingly...

...yeah, like two weeks ago.

But this - this is bordering on being downright psychotic. .


I knew that when the death threats were going on lol but yeah, they are relentless and have to be the more stubborn people I have ever seen in my life and I've been around religious zealots and political enthusiasts and xbox 360 console war kids

Modifié par Dridengx, 28 mars 2012 - 05:47 .


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Jeno_340 wrote...

Omg this thread did not go where I wanted it to go


They never do. They never do...

My favorite threads all stopped within less than a page, with few views, while the odd ones got lots of views. Just the way it goes.


Also, am I the only one getting ads at the bottom of the new post page?


But they're innocent! And civil. They never act that way. Please. Any time someone posts anything positive, they get eaten alive.

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Everyone just ignore these trolls. It is obvious that these people are out to get a reaction from us and make our movement look bad. Let them post their little arguments about how we are obsessive whiners. It means nothing to me. Anyway, back to the buisness at hand.


Proof, my friend: that thing we are all called upon to show when we make a claim, and that thing that we oh-so-often lack.

Like here. Who's calling anyone obsessive whiners? Quotes, please.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

warrior256 wrote...

Everyone just ignore these trolls. It is obvious that these people are out to get a reaction from us and make our movement look bad. Let them post their little arguments about how we are obsessive whiners. It means nothing to me. Anyway, back to the buisness at hand.


Proof, my friend: that thing we are all called upon to show when we make a claim, and that thing that we oh-so-often lack.

Like here. Who's calling anyone obsessive whiners? Quotes, please.


Why aren't you asking for proof and quotes when people accuse those who hate the endings of death threats, charity abuse and trolling as if we all do it? Hm? It goes both ways, now stop derailing the topic.

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psychotic


Hi, welcome to the Internet.  It's always nice to meet a first-timer.

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I have a feeling the "True End" will be free for those that bought the game new... If they intend to make us wait for the end from the get go... Also as much as I hate the idea I like it too... It will stand a chance of saving me from my loud mouth coworker from spoiling game endings for me.
I do hope it is free for the sake of the fans. (This one can dream)

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greengoron89 wrote...

Dear god, are you people still on about the damn endings?

Look man, I thought the endings were absolute tripe, was hugely disappointed in the game, and voiced my dissatisfaction on here accordingly...

...yeah, like two weeks ago.

But this - this is bordering on being downright psychotic. .


I knew that when the death threats were going on lol but yeah, they are relentless and have to be the more stubborn people I have ever seen in my life and I've been around religious zealots and political enthusiasts and xbox 360 console war kids


...death threats? Are you serious? When the hell did this happen?

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greengoron89 wrote...

psychotic


Hi, welcome to the Internet.  It's always nice to meet a first-timer.


LOL. I've been all over the Internets, friend - and this is still one of the most rabid fanbases that I've ever seen.

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If you're happy with the ending - then DON'T-buy-the-DLC!
But 91% (refer to BW poll) are unhappy. So go home!

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The Angry One wrote...
charity abuse and trolling as if we all do it? Hm? It goes both ways, now stop derailing the topic.

You bunch up all pro enders in a bunch as trolls so does society with your movement.

Stay Free

Modifié par Dridengx, 28 mars 2012 - 05:50 .


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Dridengx wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
charity abuse and trolling as if we all do it? Hm? It goes both ways, now stop derailing the topic.

You bunch up all pro enders in a bunch as trolls so does society with your movement.

Stay Free


I do no such thing, I let your actions speak for themselves.

And they do, so very much.

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Why aren't you asking for proof and quotes when people accuse those who hate the endings of death threats, charity abuse and trolling as if we all do it? Hm? It goes both ways, now stop derailing the topic.


Same reason you don't for what I asked proof for.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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I love your wording here, as if we're not "loyal".

Or do you equate loyalty with obedience? .... actually, that explains a lot.


Hey, it's you again, who comes to attack me everytime you can. *tips hat*

If you'd look down the page a bit, I was referring to OP actually claiming that we--fans who liked the ending--are not "loyal."


You're a writer, yet you liked the ending? That makes about as much sense as the ending itself.

As a writer, how can you not see how nonsensical, contradictory and incoherent the ening is from a purely literary stand point?

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greengoron89 wrote...


...death threats? Are you serious? When the hell did this happen?


Oh yeah. Against BioWare, its employees, fellow forum members (myself included, three times). All because we have an opinion other than theirs.

Most deny it, but it's there. The posts and people have since been removed. But it got bad. And I mean bad.

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Devils-DIVISION wrote...

If you're happy with the ending - then DON'T-buy-the-DLC!
But 91% (refer to BW poll) are unhappy. So go home!


oh the poll that had 71k people? yes that really seems logical for a mere 5% of the fanbase to demand things changed to a game that effects over 2.6 or more million fans. Why don't you get logic!

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You're a writer, yet you liked the ending? That makes about as much sense as the ending itself.

As a writer, how can you not see how nonsensical, contradictory and incoherent the ening is from a purely literary stand point?


I'm a writer, and I liked the ending. What of it? I understand the ending and enjoy it.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Why aren't you asking for proof and quotes when people accuse those who hate the endings of death threats, charity abuse and trolling as if we all do it? Hm? It goes both ways, now stop derailing the topic.


Same reason you don't for what I asked proof for.


See, I wouldn't care. But you obviously do, so if you're so interested in integrity you should be impartial, no?

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Dridengx wrote...

Devils-DIVISION wrote...

If you're happy with the ending - then DON'T-buy-the-DLC!
But 91% (refer to BW poll) are unhappy. So go home!


oh the poll that had 71k people? yes that really seems logical for a mere 5% of the fanbase to demand things changed to a game that effects over 2.6 or more million fans. Why don't you get logic!


Dridengx fails yet again to understand statistics.

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HenchxNarf wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...



You're a writer, yet you liked the ending? That makes about as much sense as the ending itself.

As a writer, how can you not see how nonsensical, contradictory and incoherent the ening is from a purely literary stand point?


I'm a writer, and I liked the ending. What of it? I understand the ending and enjoy it.


Given your sig I rather think you just enjoy antagonising as many people as possible.

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All I will say is thus: I stated in my previous post that it is best to ignore those looking for a reaction, so that is what I shall do. I admit that perhaps trolls was not the best choice of word but I stand by what I said for those looking for an argument.

Back to the topic of this thread, I think EA is the best we can hope for at this point. Many of us have stated we will pay for an ending. EA probably has dollar signs in their eyes and will demand Bioware create some sort of new ending.

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Tony208 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Devils-DIVISION wrote...

If you're happy with the ending - then DON'T-buy-the-DLC!
But 91% (refer to BW poll) are unhappy. So go home!


oh the poll that had 71k people? yes that really seems logical for a mere 5% of the fanbase to demand things changed to a game that effects over 2.6 or more million fans. Why don't you get logic!


Dridengx fails yet again to understand statistics.


Actually Jessica said RTM is about 9% of the fanbase.

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Jeno_340 wrote...

 To start off, I just want to say that I believe in IT and I'm about to explain why.

I don't think EA would let Bioware sacrifice profits for "artistic integrity". If Bioware only elaborates on the current ending by adding a bit more dialogue and cutscenes, pretty much all their loyal fans are going to abandon them. These loyal fans are the ones that buy the dlc. Casual fans who didn't complain about the ending (or praise it), probably aren't going to buy the dlc the dlc either.

I think Bioware planned this along but they didn't expect the amount of damage a united group of 50,000 could do (30% price reduction in first two weeks, low user reviews, $100,000 in charity, 400 cupcakes, etc). If they actually had a good PR team, they could have stopped all of this in the first week by saying simply "the real ending is coming soon". Instead, they sacrificed a lot of money to keep everything a secret until April in order to preserve the greatest plot twist ever.


You know what, I thought about this some more and it would take HUGE cojones to have planned this and EA is VERY risk-averse so I doubt they would have allowed it, or I doubt they would have kept quiet after the uproar became apparent. When Ray made the blog post that pretty much was the last nail in the coffin for IT being pre-planned. Maybe they'll pick it up, but yeah, 99% sure it was not pre-planned.


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sadly at that time the old crowd already had C&C3 to get used to the idea that C&C was dead


Yeah the writing was on the wall long ago. :crying:

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 The price is still $59.99. Standard for a new game. I don't see where they price is getting dropped. Also, who gives a damn about user ratings or metacritic scores?

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The Angry One wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...



You're a writer, yet you liked the ending? That makes about as much sense as the ending itself.

As a writer, how can you not see how nonsensical, contradictory and incoherent the ening is from a purely literary stand point?


I'm a writer, and I liked the ending. What of it? I understand the ending and enjoy it.


Given your sig I rather think you just enjoy antagonising as many people as possible.


Given your sig, I think you rather like taking and changing things that aren't yours.

My sig is my opinion, and given the state of these boards, I wouldn't be far from the truth.