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[78stonewobble]

Jane Shepard wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Jane Shepard wrote...

I don't think I would. Well, I dreamed about a happy ending before ME3 but not now. I like ME3 as it is. As for me happy end would turn ME3 into a fairy tale. As for the choices... The Reapers are too powerful. They leave no options.

Well with that argument there should only be a loose ending right?

Why? The Earth and the galaxy can be saved.

I just meant that if the reapers are too powerfull and leave no options then it is equally impossible for the earth and the galaxy to be saved.

The fact that they can be fought does leave plenty of room for rainbow/unicorn ending, happy ending, slightly less happy ending and all the down to "you got the whole world killed".

In any case life goes on somewhere for someone even after the worst wars and disasters here on earth.

Personally I think that a perfect happy ending would seem unrealistic. However a happy ending as a reward for a nigh perfect playthrough and picking the right choices. I'd like that...

The reason I don't like the ending(s) is mostly (around 90 percent) the really lame way they are presented and differ hardly at all. Eg. explosion colour, 2 sek vid clip addition and something happening in the lower right side of the screen for half a second.

[Siegdrifa]

"Happy ending" would be relative for me.
There is billions of dead already.
So, the best happy ending i could see to fit is Shep reunited with the crew and LI, no party, no sunset, everybody chocked in the middle of the decimated planet in a galaxy forever changed that will carry the scars of that war for the undreds of years to come... but alive and out of this nightmare at last. Shep's LI by his side looking at the ruine of a nearly destructed world, thinking most of the galaxy is in the same state, no kiss, but her hand looking for Shep's hand for reconfort, holding it tight.
/credit roll
This should have been a possibility IMO.

[The Razman]

Nadya2 wrote...

i know this won't happen, specially knowing how arrogant ,stubborn, greedy, selfish, and careless about their fans.        Bioware have turned into lately.

Yes ... how dare they not give into pressure and turn their game into fanservice.

How arrogant of them.

[Getorex]

The Razman wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

i know this won't happen, specially knowing how arrogant ,stubborn, greedy, selfish, and careless about their fans.        Bioware have turned into lately.

Yes ... how dare they not give into pressure and turn their game into fanservice.

How arrogant of them.

Games ARE fanservice, as you put it.  Their entire existence is due to, and for, FANS.  No fans, no money.  The end.

How DARE movie studios change their endings because of the inputs of test audiences!  They should just plow out their movies with the original ending and make the public SUCK IT.  

Yeah.  That would make them money.  Telling the people they NEED to suck it and "eat what I put in front of you!"

Simple and correct answer: "No"

Modifié par Getorex, 28 mars 2012 - 12:44 .

[Getorex]

How about THIS ending that arbitrarily kills Shepard (like the current ending...for no real reason whatsoever):

Shepard and crew defeat the Reapers. They are all standing around patting each other on the backs, hugging, kissing, dancing around when suddenly Shepard just drops dead. Plop. That sudden death syndrome you see sometimes in athletes. "Speculation!" Then they can end with just these words, "Sometimes you just never know."

There you go, retarded "closure" AND a retarded death for Shepard no worse, no better, than the current pointless deathy crap.

[eoinnx03]

I would pay money for one. Happy ending with LI.

[lawp79]

eoinnx03 wrote...

I would pay money for one. Happy ending with LI.

+1

[Subject M]

Random citizen wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

I agree with this too.
it was posted above that Shepard deserves it.  
But I'd say that the other characters do as well.  Gosh, Kaidan has been through enough.  BAaT, feeling a freak/outsider his whole life, a strained relationship with his father, the loss of Shepard once and mourning her for 2 years, then finding she was alive but still separated from her.  He Finally found happiness for once in his life.  To only lose her again?  It seems cruel treatment of a character I love more than Shepard herself.  Particularly so for an ending that leaves the galaxy in a state little better off than if the Reapers won.

Aslanasadi wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

MizzNaaa wrote...

Camthalon wrote...

A "fairy tale" ending is impossible for ME3's storyline. Unless time travel is implemented.

Billions, if not trillions are dead. The galaxy is in flames. It will take decades if not centuries to truly rebuild.

My ideal "good" ending? Shep survives, the Reapers are destroyed, and s/he either retires to Earth/a colony/Rannoch/etc to help rebuild with the LI, retire and go into politics to lead/join a new Council/galactic government, or remain in the military.

This, so much this.

+1

I should not be hard to understand.

I agree so much

The only thing I can think of adding to this is a type of ending without the Reapers are not necessarily destroyed, but they leave as the reason for their harvesting is invalidated. Also, the ending could include Shepard, weary from war and all the psychological stress, retiring - never to return to any official duty.

+1

[chengthao]

i want it to be an option

that would be the best thing for BW to do . . . have several options . . . . sad, evil, bittersweet, and happy

[CrazyRah]

Subject M wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

I agree with this too.
it was posted above that Shepard deserves it.  
But I'd say that the other characters do as well.  Gosh, Kaidan has been through enough.  BAaT, feeling a freak/outsider his whole life, a strained relationship with his father, the loss of Shepard once and mourning her for 2 years, then finding she was alive but still separated from her.  He Finally found happiness for once in his life.  To only lose her again?  It seems cruel treatment of a character I love more than Shepard herself.  Particularly so for an ending that leaves the galaxy in a state little better off than if the Reapers won.

Aslanasadi wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

MizzNaaa wrote...

Camthalon wrote...

A "fairy tale" ending is impossible for ME3's storyline. Unless time travel is implemented.

Billions, if not trillions are dead. The galaxy is in flames. It will take decades if not centuries to truly rebuild.

My ideal "good" ending? Shep survives, the Reapers are destroyed, and s/he either retires to Earth/a colony/Rannoch/etc to help rebuild with the LI, retire and go into politics to lead/join a new Council/galactic government, or remain in the military.

This, so much this.

+1

I should not be hard to understand.

I agree so much

The only thing I can think of adding to this is a type of ending without the Reapers are not necessarily destroyed, but they leave as the reason for their harvesting is invalidated. Also, the ending could include Shepard, weary from war and all the psychological stress, retiring - never to return to any official duty.

+1

I hereby award you all with a lot of cookies!

[78stonewobble]

The Razman wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

i know this won't happen, specially knowing how arrogant ,stubborn, greedy, selfish, and careless about their fans.        Bioware have turned into lately.

Yes ... how dare they not give into pressure and turn their game into fanservice.

How arrogant of them.

Yes if something is poorly or mediocre made one should never ever improve upon it. Here i just mean quality of ending not whether it's happy sad though.

[chengthao]

The Razman wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

i know this won't happen, specially knowing how arrogant ,stubborn, greedy, selfish, and careless about their fans.        Bioware have turned into lately.

Yes ... how dare they not give into pressure and turn their game into fanservice.

How arrogant of them.

just like how they caved in to EA or caved in to greed

if your going to cave in due to pressure, it should at least be to fan pressure

[Getorex]

chengthao wrote...

i want it to be an option

that would be the best thing for BW to do . . . have several options . . . . sad, evil, bittersweet, and happy

Heh.   I like your sig.  Magic in space indeed.

[sedrikhcain]

Well, can we define happy ending? In some respects, I would've preferred a ridiculously over the top Hollywood happy ending to what we got -- though it certainly wouldn't have been what I was after.

What's important for me, as far as accomplishing something in the end, and I suppose that's how we can partially define a happy ending, is that the galactic community remain intact. No matter how many people in it at the moment die, in the big picture, that's what needs to happen, so that the vision of the Milky Way that this game created, and which I love, goes on. So if Shepard and all the rest die horrible deaths, but the mass relays remain, I'm satisfied.

[BlacJAC74]

Nope the general jist of the ending was in keeping with the series. My only problem was with the execution.

[Getorex]

sedrikhcain wrote...

Well, can we define happy ending? In some respects, I would've preferred a ridiculously over the top Hollywood happy ending to what we got -- though it certainly wouldn't have been what I was after.

What's important for me, as far as accomplishing something in the end, and I suppose that's how we can partially define a happy ending, is that the galactic community remain intact. No matter how many people in it at the moment die, in the big picture, that's what needs to happen, so that the vision of the Milky Way that this game created, and which I love, goes on. So if Shepard and all the rest die horrible deaths, but the mass relays remain, I'm satisfied.

An ending that is 'happy' for me is any ending that leaves Shepard alive and able to join his/her LI.  Explicitly or suggested is all the same to me.  My Shepard doesn't do something to arbitrarily end in suicide or death.  He does his damnedest to win while NOT dying in doing so.  Kinda like real people generally behave.  

Suicide is for suckers (and the depressed).   My Shepard is neither.

[chengthao]

sedrikhcain wrote...

Well, can we define happy ending? In some respects, I would've preferred a ridiculously over the top Hollywood happy ending to what we got -- though it certainly wouldn't have been what I was after.

What's important for me, as far as accomplishing something in the end, and I suppose that's how we can partially define a happy ending, is that the galactic community remain intact. No matter how many people in it at the moment die, in the big picture, that's what needs to happen, so that the vision of the Milky Way that this game created, and which I love, goes on. So if Shepard and all the rest die horrible deaths, but the mass relays remain, I'm satisfied.

i don't actually want a "star wars-type" ending . . . parades with Asaris (EP1) or a party with Voluses (EP6)

for me a happy ending is Shepard survives, re-unites with crew/LI, epilogue of events

hell even the part where Shepard and Anderson are sitting together on the citadel, relieved its all over, knowing they've succeeded could've been a happy ending . . . but then they threw in god-child and space magic and it became WTF?

[Getorex]

BlacJAC74 wrote...

Nope the general jist of the ending was in keeping with the series. My only problem was with the execution.

No it wasn't.  ME1 - happy ending  ME2 - happy ending possible

The theme of the game was NOT sacrifice and death.  It was tolerance, setting aside differences to work together, etc.  At NO time in ME1 or 2 did I ever think, "This whole thing is about the ultimate sad sacrifice."

Balderdash, pishposh, baloney, nonsense, phooie on "death/suicide" as a 'theme'.

You were playing a totally different game than most other people.

[Getorex]

chengthao wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Well, can we define happy ending? In some respects, I would've preferred a ridiculously over the top Hollywood happy ending to what we got -- though it certainly wouldn't have been what I was after.

What's important for me, as far as accomplishing something in the end, and I suppose that's how we can partially define a happy ending, is that the galactic community remain intact. No matter how many people in it at the moment die, in the big picture, that's what needs to happen, so that the vision of the Milky Way that this game created, and which I love, goes on. So if Shepard and all the rest die horrible deaths, but the mass relays remain, I'm satisfied.

i don't actually want a "star wars-type" ending . . . parades with Asaris (EP1) or a party with Voluses (EP6)

for me a happy ending is Shepard survives, re-unites with crew/LI, epilogue of events

hell even the part where Shepard and Anderson are sitting together on the citadel, relieved its all over, knowing they've succeeded could've been a happy ending . . . but then they threw in god-child and space magic and it became WTF?

Yup.  Leaving it with a beat to crap Anderson and Shepard together on the citadel post-victory with the relays intact would have been a good/happy ending.  Relays intact or not,  the Normandy wouldn't have chickened out and run to Jurassic Incest planet, they would have hung around to back Shepard and the huge fleet.  They would have been there for Shepard to hobble back to at the very end. 

[BlacJAC74]

Getorex wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Well, can we define happy ending? In some respects, I would've preferred a ridiculously over the top Hollywood happy ending to what we got -- though it certainly wouldn't have been what I was after.

What's important for me, as far as accomplishing something in the end, and I suppose that's how we can partially define a happy ending, is that the galactic community remain intact. No matter how many people in it at the moment die, in the big picture, that's what needs to happen, so that the vision of the Milky Way that this game created, and which I love, goes on. So if Shepard and all the rest die horrible deaths, but the mass relays remain, I'm satisfied.

An ending that is 'happy' for me is any ending that leaves Shepard alive and able to join his/her LI.  Explicitly or suggested is all the same to me.  My Shepard doesn't do something to arbitrarily end in suicide or death.  He does his damnedest to win while NOT dying in doing so.  Kinda like real people generally behave.  

Suicide is for suckers (and the depressed).   My Shepard is neither.

Way to generalise about a subject you obviously know little or nothing about.  Stick to talking about the game and leave those sort of debates to people that do know what the hell they're talking about.  I get it, you're pissed off with a game, but there's no need to make inane comments.

[BlacJAC74]

Getorex wrote...

BlacJAC74 wrote...

Nope the general jist of the ending was in keeping with the series. My only problem was with the execution.

No it wasn't.  ME1 - happy ending  ME2 - happy ending possible

The theme of the game was NOT sacrifice and death.  It was tolerance, setting aside differences to work together, etc.  At NO time in ME1 or 2 did I ever think, "This whole thing is about the ultimate sad sacrifice."

Balderdash, pishposh, baloney, nonsense, phooie on "death/suicide" as a 'theme'.

You were playing a totally different game than most other people.

Go outside and have a cry, mate, you're talking all this stuff too seriously.  It's only a game.

Modifié par BlacJAC74, 28 mars 2012 - 01:09 .

[Getorex]

Snake91 wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

i know this won't happen, specially knowing how arrogant ,stubborn, greedy, selfish, and careless about their fans.        Bioware have turned into lately.   still we can only hope, or imagine how differen't this game could have been, had we given a choice for a happy ending.

it would have been nice, if shepard could live, save the world, and manages to escape aboard of the normandy along with his , her loved one and friends.

Actually the part with Shepard's sacrifice is not bad but the part with Normandy on the middle of nowhere i don't like that part

Except that the death of Shepard was in all cases arbitrary and not self-evidently REQUIRED.  Synthesis needs nothing more than a mouth swab for DNA.  Ta-da!  Synthesis. 

The control ending doesn't require incineration, it requires nothing more than the dude in the Overlord DLC (wires and tubes all over but alive - and wouldn't even HAVE to be permanent).  The destroy ending got Shepard killed because he walked/stumbled TOWARDS the device as he was shooting it!  Just they way you run TOWARDS the grenade you just tossed in real life!  Because you WANT to get blown to sh*t.  Except you DON'T.

[78stonewobble]

Well the semi cannon shep have the background of "survivor" right?

So from that point of view atleast shepard surviving would make sense.

[Getorex]

BlacJAC74 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

BlacJAC74 wrote...

Nope the general jist of the ending was in keeping with the series. My only problem was with the execution.

No it wasn't.  ME1 - happy ending  ME2 - happy ending possible

The theme of the game was NOT sacrifice and death.  It was tolerance, setting aside differences to work together, etc.  At NO time in ME1 or 2 did I ever think, "This whole thing is about the ultimate sad sacrifice."

Balderdash, pishposh, baloney, nonsense, phooie on "death/suicide" as a 'theme'.

You were playing a totally different game than most other people.

Go outside and have a cry, mate, you're talking all this stuff too seriously.  It's only a game.

Yep, just a game the same way the Harry Potter stories were just that, stories, or movies.  Think of the uproar if they had ended with Harry going off his nut and becoming a savage rapist/murderer and getting killed.  But it would be just a story/movie.  Except things like that aren't "just" anything. 

You are obviously one who doesn't give a flying f*ck for narrative, logic, story, and is just in it for the boom-boom.  That's fine as far as it goes but for those who are in it for more than just boom-boom, the story is the thing.

I don't want a play or movie of "Hamlet" to end with a flying saucer swooping in and preventing Hamlet from killing himself...THAT would not fit with the story and it would be retarded to boot.  Simply declaring, "Shepard dies" and making it so for ALL endings regardless of how you play, regardless of what decisions you make in the entire series, etc, is a slap in the face of the people tht matter: the fans.  

No one in their right mind would go out and design a game that people will be angry with, or return, or only play once and trash-talk it to anyone who asks.  THAT is what YOUR beloved ending has wrought.  That's just bad business and shoddy storytelling.

Oh...and who the f*ck goes outside to "have a cry"? 

Modifié par Getorex, 28 mars 2012 - 01:20 .