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[SouzaNZ]

Ahhhh! I was so excited when he quoted the start of Plinkett's Phantom Menace Review. Will keep watching, thank for the link.

[SouzaNZ]

I found that to be quite excellent. Very similar to the style Plinkett's reviews with an incredible amount of depth and analysis. He did leave out the psychotic undertones and the prostitute murder though and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

[CARL_DF90]

I.........LOVE............THIS!

[RaggieRags]

Bumping for greatness. Watch it, people!

[SwitchN7]

Who else here tried to shoot the Holo Space Godlike ****like DreamLike child? I know i did

Modifié par SwitchN7, 29 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[suprhomre]

Great video it sums up all my thoughts on why ME3 ending sucks big balls. But, it doesn't matter because, BIOWARE DOESN'T CARE!.

[SwitchN7]

Of course they care,why wouldn't they? Wouldn't you care about your most precious pup? I know i would.

Modifié par SwitchN7, 29 mars 2012 - 09:53 .

[daecath]

This is the best critique I've seen. It takes it from a true literary perspective, and counters all of those "but it's aaaaarrrrrrttttt!!!!!!" arguments. Very well done.

[Syrin_]

An excellent video. Well worth watching. Twice.

[fwc577]

Very great video and I hope that people at Bioware watch this video. Please Please Please bioware do NOT choose destroy. I live in Wisconsin, and I don't want to die.

[Traim Eisenblut]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Traim Eisenblut wrote...

A very well done explanation of what is really wrong with the ending.
I would like to see something similar towards "artistic integrity" and it's abuse as a shield against criticism.

I know this has been spun way out of control for what it is. Did someone in Bioware come out directly and say Artistic Ingerity b*tches, it is the way it is, or is it the news outlets using this to spur more hits on their site?

The one quote I saw someone in Bioware state this is 

We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received.  

If this is all that Bioware came out and said on said horrid word. Then re-evauation is needed. If news outlets are saying that then they deserve the thrashing for it.

To the point since people fling it around in here and I am thread-jacking artist intregrity is designed to keep the vision of the writers and artist truthful to a degree. Now that does not mean it is concrete and static. It is ever shapping and changing, a vision will always change as time passes.

Now the video did an excellent job of giving a strong and well designed critique, developers dream of seeing from fans. The suggestions are simple, easy and does not infringe on artistic intregrity. While it is long in the tooth and could of been cut down slighty it was still well done. It told the narrative that people who like/dislike or anything in between of the ending that all can agree on.

My quote didn`t imply that an explanation of artistic integrity should address bioware alone. Besides Rays letter it wasn`t mentioned by the company directly. Still, it is abused as an argument against change and even criticism by a big number of game-reviewers and even newspapers.
As the discussion about the games ending is a public one, I don't think it should be exclusivly regarding BioWare. If a concept like artistic integrity is brought into a discussion, it should be used adequatly and reasonable, no matter who mentions it first. As we have seen so far, the mentioning of it does evoke a strong reaction and a controversy, which in my opinion can benefit from a logical analyzation of the subject "artistic integrity" and it`s use in this debate. Just like this video addresses the controversy of the ending of ME:3 by a logical analyzation of narrative coherence in general and how it applies on Mass Effect 3s ending.

[SupidSeep]

Very well-made video. I was against an ending DLC but am now swayed.

It's your move, Bioware.

[Bebopbeats]

I agree with most of this, though some of it is a little over my head.

[Kalas82]

SwitchN7 wrote...

Who else here tried to shoot the Holo Space Godlike ****like DreamLike child? I know i did

I swear by everything that`s sacred to me..i did, the very same moment i could control my char again i started firing....magazine after magazine ....and that freaky thing just wouldn`t  die. i`ve never been a fan of this meme-thingy ..but "kill it with fire" was everything i could think about.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Traim Eisenblut wrote...

My quote didn`t imply that an explanation of artistic integrity should address bioware alone. Besides Rays letter it wasn`t mentioned by the company directly. Still, it is abused as an argument against change and even criticism by a big number of game-reviewers and even newspapers.
As the discussion about the games ending is a public one, I don't think it should be exclusivly regarding BioWare. If a concept like artistic integrity is brought into a discussion, it should be used adequatly and reasonable, no matter who mentions it first. As we have seen so far, the mentioning of it does evoke a strong reaction and a controversy, which in my opinion can benefit from a logical analyzation of the subject "artistic integrity" and it`s use in this debate. Just like this video addresses the controversy of the ending of ME:3 by a logical analyzation of narrative coherence in general and how it applies on Mass Effect 3s ending.

Thank you for this. I was not trying to sling mud at you for this, but it is truly grating people are just stating artistic integrity to anything using it as an ad homien. Also I agree since it is public stated we can discuss this matter. I was asking about the state of Bioware's AI, since people are just siding it with this. I have seen this from either side.


Also a logical analyzation of the artistic integrity of the gaming industry (not just Bioware) would be an excellent paper/essay/video to work on. Also I do say the video is amazingly well done, propally just needed some editing, but did an excellent job breaking down the ending without being flamebait.

[davidshooter]

Bump - hoping more people get to see this video.

[OmegaBlue0231]

I wonder how many millions of bullets have been wasted on the god-child by angry fans?

[robarcool]

Beautiful. A work of art.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

I can picture a 600lb man with Cheetos and thick glasses saying this...but is it sad I agree with much and the Startrek analogy as well?

[Irune]

That's by far the best explanation video out there. Also fun.

[i IIVIIorpheus]

This vid should have been included with the cupcakes.....

[swordmalice]

Excellent analysis done here. I thin this sums up the major issues perfectly.

[CARL_DF90]

Ah.....me love this vid.

Modifié par CARL_DF90, 30 mars 2012 - 03:37 .

[Stinkface27]

This was well worth the watch.

It also overwhelmed me with nostalgia for ME1 and 2