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[horacethegrey]

I mean, of all the races who ally with you, it seems they're the only ones to actually get their s**t together and recognize the Reaper threat. And let's count the fact that Primarch Victus is probably the most reasonable diplomat you'll ever meet in the game. His son Tarquin also sacrifices his own life to disarm that bomb on Tuchanka. And Garrus... well, is Garrus. Probably the only squadmate who remains loyal to Shepard from the very beginning.

An ironic turn of events don't you think? As the Turians once fought with the human race in the First Contact War, and the main baddie in the first game (Saren) was a Turian Spectre.

In comparison to the other races:

Asari: Staying on the sidelines. They also hid from everyone a Prothean beacon that could have provided vital information to complete the Crucible. The only Asari who seems to be doing anything worthwhile in the war is Liara.

Salarians: The Dalatrass is vehemently against curing the Krogan genophage, and tries to strike a faustian deal with Shepard into fooling the Krogan for her people's support. Good thing the Salarian Special Tasks Group gives you support provided Major Kirrahe is alive. And Mordin? He makes the greatest heroic sacrifice in the series.

Krogan: All they're concerned about is finding a cure for the Genophage. It's only through Wrex's leadership that they can get their act together, though even he is wary of an alliance. Though Wrex is an old friend and does keep his word (provided you pull through with the cure), and Eve shows us that women are better suited to lead the Krogan than the stupid males.

Quarians: Incredibly stupid and self centered. They seem hell bent on destroying themselves by waging war on the Geth. Despite the fact that Shepard is helping them, they don't hesitate to fire on a ship while he's onboard. The only sensible ones are probably Tali and Zal'Koris.

Geth: While they did have good reason to join with the Reapers (the quarians attacking them), it's still makes them enemies to Shepard and co. It's only through Legion's sacrifice that you can finally have them join the war effort and foster a peace between them and the quarians.

[The Angry One]

Actually Legion says when he returned to the consensus, all Geth agreed to prepare for war against the Reapers, so this is a double black mark on the Quarians.

[horacethegrey]

The Angry One wrote...

Actually Legion says when he returned to the consensus, all Geth agreed to prepare for war against the Reapers, so this is a double black mark on the Quarians.

Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

[ThatDancingTurian]

I always thought they were heroic. We just barely saw any of them in Mass Effect 2 so some people seem to have forgotten that. They may be harsh, but they only take actions they believe are necessary to protect and defend. They have an enormous sense of personal honor and loyalty.

Saren was probably the most evil turian we know of and even that turned out to be largely the influence of Sovereign. He will commit suicide if you help him see the truth rather than fight you. That I think proves that even the worst turian still has some measure of honor.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 28 mars 2012 - 09:05 .

[ev76]

Yeah the Turkana had their act strait in this game. The primarch although a bit political, kept his word, and I think was a great character. Even in the end sequence Victus is back on earth. Ready to fight the ground war. That was great to see.

[SinerAthin]

Am I the only one who felt like the Turian military was awfully close to the human military?


When I walked through the military camps, I swear they could've changed changed the turian models to human models and I wouldn't have known a thing.

But... same goes for the Asari.


Krogan had a really unique warrior culture, but did anyone else feel that the there was no 'identity' or 'culture' embedded in either the Turian or the Asari military?

They seemed just like Earth military, except that they were scaly/blue, and some of them couldn't roll/had biotics.

Modifié par SinerAthin, 28 mars 2012 - 09:06 .

[Rulid]

First contact war: clash of similarities

In fact one of the most heroic moments to me in ME1 was the turian charge at Sovereign.

However, turians get the highlight because this is all out war, and turians are good at war.
Had the galactic events surrounding the story been about culture or scientific advancement
Asari and Salarians would take the cake.

[ev76]

Meant Turian on last post don't know how it came out Turkana.

[Baronesa]

Turians are indeed very heroic.

I would point out something about Asari. Matron Aethyta is also doing things for the war effort. As you complete fetch quests for Asari, you can hear how the commandos are under Aethyta's commands. "I wan't every Maiden with the mind of a huntress". Now, the rest of the Asari...? yes most of them did nothing at all. Besides those working with Aethyta and what Liara was doing, they didn't made much of an impact till the ending with the fleet.

[BadgerladDK]

The Turians were always pretty badass, and their society is pretty much set up perfectly for gearing up for war (or rather, it seems they're already geared up for it at all times).

[Made Nightwing]

The turians were pretty damn good in this game, but I wish we saw more of their interaction with the humans. I mean, there's supposed to be a lot of bad blood from the First Contact War. I wish we could have seen Major Nigel 'Fish'n Chips' Coats talking with Victus, or something like that, putting old grudges aside and agreeing that everyone is being pretty badass at the moment.

[foxlockbox]

Already ranted about this in other thread, but I'm bummed that my favorite race (salarians) were left out, I mean who would betray Wrex? Maybe Wreav, but not Wrex. I guess its because they lack the sex appeal and badassery other races have, so not that many people hold them to a high position. Me? I just find the salarian characters the most entertaining and smartest in the universe, expect the dalatrass and that appeals to me. Even when they oppose you (the Noveria dude whatever his name was). I find it hard to believe they would just go "oh reapers, but what if we're not driven to extinction by reapers what will the krogans do? We'll just watch this one from the sidelines." Imo thats out of salarian character, but I see the the reasons from storytelling point, you can't get everyone's help no matter what. And yes I know you get STG and one fleet if you save councilor, but still dissapointing.

Modifié par foxlockbox, 28 mars 2012 - 10:42 .

[MstrJedi Kyle]

Pound for pound they are the best fighting force in the galaxy!

[cyric085]

the most heroic ones are the reapers

they tried to save us from the terribad ME 3 ending

sadly they failed

[lockdown51]

I think the turians come off really good since there is a war on and they are willing to do anything to ensure victory. After all their maxim is "Victory at any cost."

Palaven victor.

[SKiLLYWiLLY2]

Yeah the Quarians got on my nerves in this game big time. I was so close to just letting them get wiped out.

[Hudathan]

Everyone was heroic in this game.

[Cyberarmy]

The Angry One wrote...

Actually Legion says when he returned to the consensus, all Geth agreed to prepare for war against the Reapers, so this is a double black mark on the Quarians.

I laughed pretty hard at my Sheps reaction after Legions that line.

[Ciiran]

Don't forget Marauder Shields.

[Skirlasvoud]

Well of course they got their **** in order. They're the ones worst hit besides humanity.


ANY of these races would have immidiatly sided with Shepard if their homes were attacked. Turians just got unlucky.

[Leonia]

Well, turians are pretty awesome. They also have a whole culture built up around warfare so they know how to handle themselves under pressure. Plus they seemed to be on the ball early, remember the Thanix canon that was REd from parts of Sovereign? Maybe the councillor played coy but the Hierarchy itself was preparing for war long before anyone else was, you can see it in old CDN entries about the building of new dreadnoughts and practice drills with the Alliance.

[ElcorAmbassador]

Turians = Romans. Even their names give it away. They're sense of pride and loyalty to their homeworld reminds me of the Roman Legion.

[GnusmasTHX]

I won't lie, the best thing in-game about the war effort I enjoyed was the Irune: Book of Plenix quest.

The volus tells you something like the book tells you in times of war, the volus have to be charitable and forgive debts. That's why he wants to reclaim the book, educate his people and get dat cashmoney for the war.

I was like, "Damn... That volus knows whats up."

Also no, the turians weren't preparing for war with the Reapers. They were probably just being militaristic as usual, otherwise they probably would've done something specific about the Reaper artifact on their moon. Just like the salarians and asari did nothing despite having evidence prior to ME1.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 28 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[Chipaway111]

I. Adore. All. Turians.

I don't know why, probably something to do with all their voices... have you heard Primarch Victus? Adolescent fan-girlism aside a turians culture is centred around military, don't they go into training for it at age 15? Imagine a whole world of that, I don't think a turian civilian (in our sense) exists.

[NHK]

Chipaway111 wrote...

I don't think a turian civilian (in our sense) exists.

Closest modern analogue would be the Israelis - mandatory military service for all citizens. May be others, but they pop into my mind immediately.

In general, the Turians don't flinch when it comes to the crunch. "Each Turian is, first and foremost, a public servant." Whereas Humans shine under pressure, it's just what Turians do naturally. Even their renegades, a la Garrus and Saren, have a kind of nobility about them. Even their scum, like Warden Kuril will proclaim the nobility of their actions (even if they are complete hypocrites). There's much to like and admire in the Turians, though I would be wary of many of the things they take for granted.

Made me laugh when I heard Thessia was hit - made me think of what Matriarch Aethyta said about Asari needing to get their people out of bars and into schools etc. I vaguely remember someone saying "The Asari are the most powerful race in the galaxy, we'll see what that's worth soon enough." Turns out, as hinted at earlier, not much.