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[Kanon777]

Elyiia wrote...

Millions of years of experience WHERE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

It didnt happen because the reapers stopped them...

And look at this: 

The long-term goal of the geth is the construction of a "mega-structure", a massive mainframe capable of simultaneously housing every existent geth program, thereby maximizing their collective processing capacity. As of 2185, the geth have already been in the process of constructing the mega-structure for 264 years. Legion suggests the closest conceptual analogue is a Dyson sphere and, as it poignantly states "no geth will be alone when it is done." It believes that Sovereign promised the heretics a Reaper body to serve as such a mega-structure.

Im sure you realise what this idea means for all organic life in the Geth system right? Whitout the sun all life in the close planets will vanish. Its very likely that other synthetics decided to do the same thing in the past (its a very elegant and inteligent solution for machines, as it takes energy directly from the source).

Now imagine if the geth decide to reproduce and travel the galaxy, taking all sun light one system at a time. It would be the end of ALL life in the galaxy.

So we have a clear evidence that the geth WERE indirectly trying to murder countless organic lives on the quarian planet. They arent so pacific anymore are they?

[Foxhound2121]

Since using insults in your argument is an obvious reaction for allowing emotion to cloud your judgement, I think Luzarius needs to take three days before responding to this thread.

[Elyiia]

tobito113 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Millions of years of experience WHERE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

It didnt happen because the reapers stopped them...

And look at this: 

The long-term goal of the geth is the construction of a "mega-structure", a massive mainframe capable of simultaneously housing every existent geth program, thereby maximizing their collective processing capacity. As of 2185, the geth have already been in the process of constructing the mega-structure for 264 years. Legion suggests the closest conceptual analogue is a Dyson sphere and, as it poignantly states "no geth will be alone when it is done." It believes that Sovereign promised the heretics a Reaper body to serve as such a mega-structure.

Im sure you realise what this idea means for all organic life in the Geth system right? Whitout the sun all life in the close planets will vanish. Its very likely that other synthetics decided to do the same thing in the past (its a very elegant and inteligent solution for machines, as it takes energy directly from the source).

Now imagine if the geth decide to reproduce and travel the galaxy, taking all sun light one system at a time. It would be the end of ALL life in the galaxy.

So we have a clear evidence that the geth WERE indirectly trying to murder countless organic lives on the quarian planet. They arent so pacific anymore are they?

No, it never happened in the first place for the decision to make to Reapers to be made. Assuming the organics and the synthetics of cycle 0 had a war. The organics had to have won for the Reapers to be made. Then they somehow skip over the logical step of just simply not creating AI to creating the Reapers to destroy advanced civilisations every 50k years. No matter how you look at it, it's just plain stupid.

[Alexraptor1]

Clear evidence my butt.
Dyson spheres is not a new concept or something that evil machines come up with.
There is also no proof whatsoever that the geths Dyson Sphere was being built in a star system with life.

[Baronesa]

tobito113 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Millions of years of experience WHERE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

It didnt happen because the reapers stopped them...

And look at this: 

The long-term goal of the geth is the construction of a "mega-structure", a massive mainframe capable of simultaneously housing every existent geth program, thereby maximizing their collective processing capacity. As of 2185, the geth have already been in the process of constructing the mega-structure for 264 years. Legion suggests the closest conceptual analogue is a Dyson sphere and, as it poignantly states "no geth will be alone when it is done." It believes that Sovereign promised the heretics a Reaper body to serve as such a mega-structure.

Im sure you realise what this idea means for all organic life in the Geth system right? Whitout the sun all life in the close planets will vanish. Its very likely that other synthetics decided to do the same thing in the past (its a very elegant and inteligent solution for machines, as it takes energy directly from the source).

Now imagine if the geth decide to reproduce and travel the galaxy, taking all sun light one system at a time. It would be the end of ALL life in the galaxy.

So we have a clear evidence that the geth WERE indirectly trying to murder countless organic lives on the quarian planet. They arent so pacific anymore are they?

The same Geth that repaired the enviromental damage of Rannoch... same Geth that cleaned up and maintained a planet they were not using. Same planet that still had plant and animal life...

Yes, they completely wiped out all organic life...

[Kanon777]

Aurvant wrote...

Everyone acknowledges that the Reapers leave behind the primitive civilizations.

Everyone acknowledges that the Reapers are created by LIQUIFYING the organic species of choice and it acts as a weird and cruel form of reproduction.

Both of these acknowledged facts don't justify the completely IDIOTIC logic that a synthetic army is killing off organics so that organics don't advance enough to create synthetics that will wipe out ALL organics.

That. Is. ****ing. Stupid.

Also, this glorious ascension that the Reapers make the organics conversion out to be? Yeah, it is still genocide and the constructed "organic" cores of the Reapers no longer recognize themselves as organic beings. They become just as cruel, horrific, and merciless as the other reapers and LOSE EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE.

That is not glorious ascension; it is forced conversion. It is murder for the sake of reproduction and the continuation of galactic genocide.

I don't give a **** what terrible reason the catalyst came up with. It's still ****ing evil.

Oh noes an EVIL antagonist? Again you prove the OPs point, just because you dislike the evil antagonist of the story dosent mean everything they think is illogical. It just means you DISAGREE with them (they are the villains of the story after all)

Modifié par tobito113, 28 mars 2012 - 01:29 .

[nevar00]

No ****, most people get it and have just been using those as a joke.

The logic is still ridiculous, made even moreso by Shepard just going along with it.

[SpideyKnight]

Demotivational pictures don't have to go into all the details, they don't have the space.  That being said, killing organics doesn't mean all organics.  That's your only rebuttal?  Seriously?

You like the endings because you've only played ME3.  You can't simply can't understand.

[guz1123]

LOL, most of this guys post are him telling how awesome and smart he is and how stupid and lame everyone else is.

This guy is clearly troll or just some d*** with a huge internet ego. Just ignore him.

[PrussianBlue]

No offense, but what exactly does he want?

[Darth Malice113]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Interesting. Tell me more.

[Kanon777]

Baronesa wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Millions of years of experience WHERE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

It didnt happen because the reapers stopped them...

And look at this: 

The long-term goal of the geth is the construction of a "mega-structure", a massive mainframe capable of simultaneously housing every existent geth program, thereby maximizing their collective processing capacity. As of 2185, the geth have already been in the process of constructing the mega-structure for 264 years. Legion suggests the closest conceptual analogue is a Dyson sphere and, as it poignantly states "no geth will be alone when it is done." It believes that Sovereign promised the heretics a Reaper body to serve as such a mega-structure.

Im sure you realise what this idea means for all organic life in the Geth system right? Whitout the sun all life in the close planets will vanish. Its very likely that other synthetics decided to do the same thing in the past (its a very elegant and inteligent solution for machines, as it takes energy directly from the source).

Now imagine if the geth decide to reproduce and travel the galaxy, taking all sun light one system at a time. It would be the end of ALL life in the galaxy.

So we have a clear evidence that the geth WERE indirectly trying to murder countless organic lives on the quarian planet. They arent so pacific anymore are they?

The same Geth that repaired the enviromental damage of Rannoch... same Geth that cleaned up and maintained a planet they were not using. Same planet that still had plant and animal life...

Yes, they completely wiped out all organic life...

Do you understand what a Dyson sphere is and what it would do the quarian homeland enviroment? It would end all life in the planet 
 

[Baronesa]

PrussianBlue wrote...

No offense, but what exactly does he want?

For everyone to clik on his  link and go to his site

[Alexraptor1]

tobito113 wrote...

Baronesa wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Millions of years of experience WHERE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

It didnt happen because the reapers stopped them...

And look at this: 

The long-term goal of the geth is the construction of a "mega-structure", a massive mainframe capable of simultaneously housing every existent geth program, thereby maximizing their collective processing capacity. As of 2185, the geth have already been in the process of constructing the mega-structure for 264 years. Legion suggests the closest conceptual analogue is a Dyson sphere and, as it poignantly states "no geth will be alone when it is done." It believes that Sovereign promised the heretics a Reaper body to serve as such a mega-structure.

Im sure you realise what this idea means for all organic life in the Geth system right? Whitout the sun all life in the close planets will vanish. Its very likely that other synthetics decided to do the same thing in the past (its a very elegant and inteligent solution for machines, as it takes energy directly from the source).

Now imagine if the geth decide to reproduce and travel the galaxy, taking all sun light one system at a time. It would be the end of ALL life in the galaxy.

So we have a clear evidence that the geth WERE indirectly trying to murder countless organic lives on the quarian planet. They arent so pacific anymore are they?

The same Geth that repaired the enviromental damage of Rannoch... same Geth that cleaned up and maintained a planet they were not using. Same planet that still had plant and animal life...

Yes, they completely wiped out all organic life...

Do you understand what a Dyson sphere is and what it would do the quarian homeland enviroment? It would end all life in the planet 
 

Dyson sphere was only the closest comparison, it was not an actual Dyson Sphere.

Modifié par Alexraptor1, 28 mars 2012 - 01:37 .

[xxLDZxx]

tobito113 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Millions of years of experience WHERE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

It didnt happen because the reapers stopped them...

And look at this: 

The long-term goal of the geth is the construction of a "mega-structure", a massive mainframe capable of simultaneously housing every existent geth program, thereby maximizing their collective processing capacity. As of 2185, the geth have already been in the process of constructing the mega-structure for 264 years. Legion suggests the closest conceptual analogue is a Dyson sphere and, as it poignantly states "no geth will be alone when it is done." It believes that Sovereign promised the heretics a Reaper body to serve as such a mega-structure.

Im sure you realise what this idea means for all organic life in the Geth system right? Whitout the sun all life in the close planets will vanish. Its very likely that other synthetics decided to do the same thing in the past (its a very elegant and inteligent solution for machines, as it takes energy directly from the source).

Now imagine if the geth decide to reproduce and travel the galaxy, taking all sun light one system at a time. It would be the end of ALL life in the galaxy.

So we have a clear evidence that the geth WERE indirectly trying to murder countless organic lives on the quarian planet. They arent so pacific anymore are they?

geth are getting smarter by getting together.
geth did not wipe out the quarians because they value all life.
geth would not wipe out all life because its against of value of life, many geth toghter in one place come to the same consensus.
Why would the geth reproduce?why shod they?they are not organic they don't need to like organics.
we do because we have to or we die out machines life unlimited. They don't need to.


Rofl c:/run bayb001/poop.exe

[jb1983]

Luzarius wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Luzarius wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

Luzarius wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

We know, the pictures are a simplified image to express displeasure at the endings. End.

Simplified for simple minds. Thus proving me 100% correct.

Luzarius
www.twitch.tv/luzarius
"no death ruleset"

http://blog.ted.com/...urray_gellmann/ 

Mind you, this is to counter your "simplified for simple minds" jab. Which is out of place, and uneccesary. 

Can you give me a summary of your primary points from this thread?

I have a feeling if I devote the next two weeks to understanding the ted arguments they may prove that you have no idea what you're talking about and you're just posting a random link to make yourself look smarter.

If I were you. I would usually point out a few primary arguments, then simplify them so they can reach a wider audience quickly. Hence you'll be able to get your point across quicker.  Life is about getting your thoughts across quickly, surely you know this.

Luzarius
www.twitch.tv/luzarius
"no death ruleset"

If I were you (comma, not period), I would use proper grammar and spelling before criticizing people's intelligence. 

I'm responding to multiple people at once in a short duration of time.

I need you to autocorrect my mistakes and understand the underlying arguments i'm presenting. Can you handle that? If not, then directly point out which argument you couldn't understand and I will clarify.

You've proven you're fishing for a counter since you have no viable counter argument. NEXT.

Luzarius
www.twitch.tv/luzarius
"no death ruleset"

"I'm." It's capitalized. 

And you're the one coming in here acting like the big dog, but can't even accomplish basic grammar and spelling. Why waste time talking logic with you if you can't construct a proper sentence?

[Kanon777]

Elyiia wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Millions of years of experience WHERE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

It didnt happen because the reapers stopped them...

And look at this: 

The long-term goal of the geth is the construction of a "mega-structure", a massive mainframe capable of simultaneously housing every existent geth program, thereby maximizing their collective processing capacity. As of 2185, the geth have already been in the process of constructing the mega-structure for 264 years. Legion suggests the closest conceptual analogue is a Dyson sphere and, as it poignantly states "no geth will be alone when it is done." It believes that Sovereign promised the heretics a Reaper body to serve as such a mega-structure.

Im sure you realise what this idea means for all organic life in the Geth system right? Whitout the sun all life in the close planets will vanish. Its very likely that other synthetics decided to do the same thing in the past (its a very elegant and inteligent solution for machines, as it takes energy directly from the source).

Now imagine if the geth decide to reproduce and travel the galaxy, taking all sun light one system at a time. It would be the end of ALL life in the galaxy.

So we have a clear evidence that the geth WERE indirectly trying to murder countless organic lives on the quarian planet. They arent so pacific anymore are they?

No, it never happened in the first place for the decision to make to Reapers to be made. Assuming the organics and the synthetics of cycle 0 had a war. The organics had to have won for the Reapers to be made. Then they somehow skip over the logical step of just simply not creating AI to creating the Reapers to destroy advanced civilisations every 50k years. No matter how you look at it, it's just plain stupid.

OR the organic of the time made THEMSELVES into the reapers to stop the war.

[nametry629]

Well done OP, that's quite a lot work you have put into completely missing the point.

[Bob3terd]

Up next debunking marauder shields.

[Borothir]

This guy again?

[Baronesa]

tobito113 wrote...

Do you understand what a Dyson sphere is and what it would do the quarian homeland enviroment? It would end all life in the planet 
 

Only if you asume it would BLOCK ALL LIGHT... For the Geth to actualyl CARE about repairing and cleaning Rannoch, to only destroy it like that, is beyond stupid.

BEsides as you pointed outm a dyson sphere is the lcosest analogue... there are different type... a dyson glove would be a another example. Also you seem to forget they seemed to have concentrated on making a sort of station, the one destroyed by the quarians, that was on ONE side of Rannoch's sun, it was not covering the whole of it.

[Ruari]

Elyiia wrote...

We know, the pictures are a simplified image to express displeasure at the endings. End.

*Sigh* I'm with you. I wish people wouldn't try to "debunk" a meme. It's a piece of comedy, not an argument.

[xxLDZxx]

PrussianBlue wrote...

No offense, but what exactly does he want?

Attention?

[bahamutomega]

 actually...  in ME, it was heavily implied that they killed off advanced civilizations so they could improve themselves.

"Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along the paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it."

ME1 - go look it up.

so quite frankly, the first image in your OP sums up the irrational circular logic presented by the ending as is.  according to the game (and that image) life can never ever break the cycle without their influence.

if you believe the rest of the story, which i personally think you've ignored in your attempt to "de-bunk" this image, the Reapers harvest advanced civilizations to improve themselves and perpetuate the cycle: primitive life is allowed to advance by utilizing the mass effect relays and the citadel, and the Reapers then know when it is time to come back and harvest the galaxy.  furthermore, the Reapers are able to harvest this cycle by shutting down the Mass Re...

oh, nevermind.  i suppose since your IQ is so high you can figure the rest out for yourself.

[Elyiia]

tobito113 wrote...

OR the organic of the time made THEMSELVES into the reapers to stop the war.

Okay, they made themselves into Reapers. They still skip over the logical step of recording what happened to AI in their cycle to the next advanced race. They still leave the relays etc ensuring that organics will evolve in a way that creates AI. No matter how you look at it, it's stupid. The Reapers deliberately put organics on a path that leads them to creating AI.