Sbri wrote...
I hold that ethics is what keeps us from sacrificing too much. It is what keeps us from sliding back into an age of barbarism.Naughty Bear wrote...
And that is why sacrifices have to be made, if a certain amount of people suffer so that the many can benefit can live with this great ability, so be it. Their lives helped advanced Humanity and in the process, everyone gets to reap the rewards.
I firmly believe in the ends justify the means. Ethics hold us back, you need to look at the big picture, stop making choices that benefit the minority and make choices that benefit the majority. It is logical.It is people like you, who hold us back from achieving technological advancements. Cloning or genetic modification and cybernetic implants. People scream moral ethics are breached and they fail to see the bigger picture. If we can clone animals, we have a infinte source of food, if we genetically modify Humans then lifespans can be increased and genetic abnomalies can be removed, if we used cybernetic implants we would overcome our limits!
NOW JUST ONE SECOND! Do not assume that I am against technology. I never said any such thing. In fact I said I would sanction any attempts that can be done with the consent of those involved. I make use daily of things that many find abhorant. I have made choices that have gotten me treated like a nut case by people "ethically" opposed to them. That I hold that people should have a choice as to whether or not they are the subject of an experement doesn't mean I don't think the experiment should be done. But find some true volenteers! We need to make those scientific advances. But I think that we need to make them while not sacrificing what makes us human in the process.
Oh man, did I just bring up the "what makes us human debate"? Rolls up sleeves.
True volunteers? We have prisons full of perfect subjects, each on has committed a grave crime agaisnt Humanity. They are perfect, they can atone by being test subjects, therefore their deaths are an act of kindness.
But we got Human Rights getting involved, we got religious people getting involved, we have people who are naive to this world. Each one screaming ethical problems. Religion started this morality, it was a mistake.
To advance, people will be stepped on, people will be used but isn't that the price worth it? To send our species, Humanity into the stars? To overcome our limits?
We got to start somewhere, inhumane experiments will always start off bad, but once it starts going, we can learn from the results and make the experiments safer for future subjects.
We will never know until we actually do it, until will remove ethics from the equation. It would be a beautiful day to see Humanity leave our crib and explore this galaxy. So much knowledge awaits us, so many secrets to discover. Our future is out there, not here.
And if we don't do something now, we will never leave and we will eventually kill ourselves.
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Rebuild the Normandy and c) Ensure they could destroy the Collector base. In ME3, far from helping humanity, they hindered every effort of Shepard to stop the invasion in order to forward their own adgenda. If Cerbeus had helped with the Crucible rather then do their upmost to stop it, I MIGHT have been willing to let their motives stand with regard to Sanctuary as a misguided attempt at a fall back plan. Instead, they actively helped the Reapers. You can claim indoctrination all you want, but at that point there is no excuse of "humanity's best interest" as, by it's very nature indoctrination causes you to work for the Reaper's best interests. What you tell yourself is irrelevant.
