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So PS3 users are shafted again?

Blame Sony for your little ghetto.


in this case i doubt is sony fault, maybe the brutes ones was but this one isnt at all. if you dont undertand i will explain you, bioware already can track all the character you promote in the ps3, you can see them in my games menu- mass effect 3 ps3...

so if they can track every time you promote a character why they cant give ps3 users this event? dont tell me they cant add packs bc they already added at least 3 packs... even more EA has another game that tracks everything you do on psn, track every kill, is call BF3 if you dont know it... and guess what bioware also belong to EA, so what you think now?

i also own a xbox trauco gaiden is my gametarg and i also have mass effect 1,2 and 3 for the xbox but i havent paid xbl so im playing mass effect 3 CE on my ps3....

im not a sony fan at all, i like the ps3, still think that the xbox is better, but i got tired of BW excuses, they already track promote characters info, their is no tech problem forcing them to leave ps3 user but maybe this tech problem is name MS...lol




you do realise single player info is stored on the console right?
if Sony is preventing them from collecting data then Sony is preventing them from collecting ANY data,
BF3 also tracks infomation from online matches and collects it on the console, there for EA isn't really involved.
it's probably both Bioware and Sony's fault, Sony for having restrictive privacy policies that only allow them to exploit your infomation and Bioware for not being flexible to Sony's strong arm tactics and legendary
"We hate all our customers" business model


Looked at the leaderboards lately? It collects N7 status wich is also increased by Promotion. This is not just stored locally on the PS3. Bioware are telling porkies and if not I personally would like to see a technical explanation as to why this is not possible. And surely this was all known before release with all the "testing"  that was done but yet it was decided to sell a crippled game for the same price as the others ... <_<

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Ew_Tux wrote...

valor163 wrote...

trauco gaiden wrote...

Star fury wrote...

DJepic112 wrote...

So PS3 users are shafted again?

Blame Sony for your little ghetto.


in this case i doubt is sony fault, maybe the brutes ones was but this one isnt at all. if you dont undertand i will explain you, bioware already can track all the character you promote in the ps3, you can see them in my games menu- mass effect 3 ps3...

so if they can track every time you promote a character why they cant give ps3 users this event? dont tell me they cant add packs bc they already added at least 3 packs... even more EA has another game that tracks everything you do on psn, track every kill, is call BF3 if you dont know it... and guess what bioware also belong to EA, so what you think now?

i also own a xbox trauco gaiden is my gametarg and i also have mass effect 1,2 and 3 for the xbox but i havent paid xbl so im playing mass effect 3 CE on my ps3....

im not a sony fan at all, i like the ps3, still think that the xbox is better, but i got tired of BW excuses, they already track promote characters info, their is no tech problem forcing them to leave ps3 user but maybe this tech problem is name MS...lol




you do realise single player info is stored on the console right?
if Sony is preventing them from collecting data then Sony is preventing them from collecting ANY data,
BF3 also tracks infomation from online matches and collects it on the console, there for EA isn't really involved.
it's probably both Bioware and Sony's fault, Sony for having restrictive privacy policies that only allow them to exploit your infomation and Bioware for not being flexible to Sony's strong arm tactics and legendary
"We hate all our customers" business model


Looked at the leaderboards lately? It collects N7 status wich is also increased by Promotion. This is not just stored locally on the PS3. Bioware are telling porkies and if not I personally would like to see a technical explanation as to why this is not possible. And surely this was all known before release with all the "testing"  that was done but yet it was decided to sell a crippled game for the same price as the others ... <_<



Yes I'm absolutely sure BW just hates PS3 fans. That can be the sole reason they don't want to implement it. They actually have weekly meetings where someone has a presentation about what kind of event PS3 owners missed and then they all practice their evil laughs. Moreover game developers accross the world have a monthly meeting where they gather and tell each other stories how they left out ps3 from stuff. And they laugh evilly too. Because they are evil and just love to troll ps3.

Seriously grow up. Do you really think if any developer has the possibility to have events accross 3 platforms, they leave out one just because?

Modifié par golyoscsapagy, 29 mars 2012 - 12:12 .


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Its simple, people at both Sony and Bioware are messing PS3 players around, they need to sort it out

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I bet EA has a deal with microsoft they paid more money to get exclusive rights to these events....

Us ps3 owners get shafted by having to reboot every 4-6 hours..

Also what pisses me off is the fact that when someone's playing the game in the PS menu it doesn't say if they are playing MP or SP if their lobby is full or what level they are on! Just like how every other game!

And also make it a mandatory at least partial game install the load times are horrendous!

Also why the **** does it bring you the the main menu and have you select a character again when accepting an invite?

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golyoscsapagy wrote...

Ew_Tux wrote...

valor163 wrote...

trauco gaiden wrote...

Star fury wrote...

DJepic112 wrote...

So PS3 users are shafted again?

Blame Sony for your little ghetto.


in this case i doubt is sony fault, maybe the brutes ones was but this one isnt at all. if you dont undertand i will explain you, bioware already can track all the character you promote in the ps3, you can see them in my games menu- mass effect 3 ps3...

so if they can track every time you promote a character why they cant give ps3 users this event? dont tell me they cant add packs bc they already added at least 3 packs... even more EA has another game that tracks everything you do on psn, track every kill, is call BF3 if you dont know it... and guess what bioware also belong to EA, so what you think now?

i also own a xbox trauco gaiden is my gametarg and i also have mass effect 1,2 and 3 for the xbox but i havent paid xbl so im playing mass effect 3 CE on my ps3....

im not a sony fan at all, i like the ps3, still think that the xbox is better, but i got tired of BW excuses, they already track promote characters info, their is no tech problem forcing them to leave ps3 user but maybe this tech problem is name MS...lol




you do realise single player info is stored on the console right?
if Sony is preventing them from collecting data then Sony is preventing them from collecting ANY data,
BF3 also tracks infomation from online matches and collects it on the console, there for EA isn't really involved.
it's probably both Bioware and Sony's fault, Sony for having restrictive privacy policies that only allow them to exploit your infomation and Bioware for not being flexible to Sony's strong arm tactics and legendary
"We hate all our customers" business model


Looked at the leaderboards lately? It collects N7 status wich is also increased by Promotion. This is not just stored locally on the PS3. Bioware are telling porkies and if not I personally would like to see a technical explanation as to why this is not possible. And surely this was all known before release with all the "testing"  that was done but yet it was decided to sell a crippled game for the same price as the others ... <_<



Seriously grow up. Do you really think if any developer has the possibility to have events accross 3 platforms, they leave out one just because?


Yes, it's called lazy development ... There is no technical reason this cannot be done, the stats are there, online, on the leaderboards. Sony is not stopping anything, look at other games such as BF3, realtime monitoring of stats and available online. These do not come from your console.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, data is already submitted through EA servers, there is no reason this cannot be captured other the lazy developers.
Of course Bioware can fully correct me with a detailed technical explanation as to why this cannot be done, however that will never happen as there is none ...

These "Operations" have been part of the game plan since it started development, it's built in the design to be enabled, this was known before the game was even released and yet it got launched knowing fully that PS3 owners would pay the same price for a broken game.

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Ew_Tux wrote...
Yes, it's called lazy development ... There is no technical reason this cannot be done, the stats are there, online, on the leaderboards. Sony is not stopping anything, look at other games such as BF3, realtime monitoring of stats and available online. These do not come from your console.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, data is already submitted through EA servers, there is no reason this cannot be captured other the lazy developers.
Of course Bioware can fully correct me with a detailed technical explanation as to why this cannot be done, however that will never happen as there is none ...

These "Operations" have been part of the game plan since it started development, it's built in the design to be enabled, this was known before the game was even released and yet it got launched knowing fully that PS3 owners would pay the same price for a broken game.

I don't think BW has anything else to do and especially doesn't owe you an explanation why they can't do it. And it would be quite moot anyway, since obviously most guys in the forum here work along the lines of:

'Talk to us more BW! I will hate you otherwise'
*BW talks*
*fans start to tear up any statement word by word just to reach the conclusion:*
'Y U talk BW? I hate you, I will incinerate your yard with a flamethrower. You suck!!!!one!!!eleven!*

And I find quite refreshing when you say things like these: 'Of course Bioware can fully correct me with a detailed technical explanation as to why this cannot be done, however that will never happen as there is none ... ' I take it you are an expert about coding MP games especially one to work in tandem with Sony. Right? (and I left out that part where you deicide what are the facts without ANY knowledge whatsoever)

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Wordlywisewiz wrote...

I bet EA has a deal with microsoft they paid more money to get exclusive rights to these events....

Us ps3 owners get shafted by having to reboot every 4-6 hours..

Also what pisses me off is the fact that when someone's playing the game in the PS menu it doesn't say if they are playing MP or SP if their lobby is full or what level they are on! Just like how every other game!

And also make it a mandatory at least partial game install the load times are horrendous!

Also why the **** does it bring you the the main menu and have you select a character again when accepting an invite?

don't feel like getting in to this arguement again but i'm gonna say that i have yet to see a good reason as to what microsoft gets out this if they did pay for exclusivity and why does pc have it then.(swear to god if you say because windows is microsof's i'm gonna explode)

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don't feel like getting in to this arguement again but i'm gonna say that i have yet to see a good reason as to what microsoft gets out this if they did pay for exclusivity and why does pc have it then.(swear to god if you say because windows is microsof's i'm gonna explode)

Please let him victimize himself. Apple lives off of it quite good as well.

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I'm a little bit weary of this thing. A while ago I did my first promotion and it didn't register in the game or in my profile on BSN. I lost my level 20 engineer with nothing to gain for it. I'm afraid if I promote my characters now it'll just be the same thing all over again. I'll lose 2 good characters and no commendation pack.

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golyoscsapagy wrote...

Ew_Tux wrote...
Yes, it's called lazy development ... There is no technical reason this cannot be done, the stats are there, online, on the leaderboards. Sony is not stopping anything, look at other games such as BF3, realtime monitoring of stats and available online. These do not come from your console.

In the case of Mass Effect 3, data is already submitted through EA servers, there is no reason this cannot be captured other the lazy developers.
Of course Bioware can fully correct me with a detailed technical explanation as to why this cannot be done, however that will never happen as there is none ...

These "Operations" have been part of the game plan since it started development, it's built in the design to be enabled, this was known before the game was even released and yet it got launched knowing fully that PS3 owners would pay the same price for a broken game.

I don't think BW has anything else to do and especially doesn't owe you an explanation why they can't do it. And it would be quite moot anyway, since obviously most guys in the forum here work along the lines of:

'Talk to us more BW! I will hate you otherwise'
*BW talks*
*fans start to tear up any statement word by word just to reach the conclusion:*
'Y U talk BW? I hate you, I will incinerate your yard with a flamethrower. You suck!!!!one!!!eleven!*

And I find quite refreshing when you say things like these: 'Of course Bioware can fully correct me with a detailed technical explanation as to why this cannot be done, however that will never happen as there is none ... ' I take it you are an expert about coding MP games especially one to work in tandem with Sony. Right? (and I left out that part where you deicide what are the facts without ANY knowledge whatsoever)


Maybe i am , Maybe i am not, you do realise that not all coders work for Bioware yes?
I never said anything in the lines of "I hate" ... I am 40yrs of age and know better than that, due to being that age i've also learned to be realistic and think things through.

Like said before, there is nothing logical that would prevent Bioware/EA from including PS3 users. I have actually thought about this, with , wait for it, ... my programming & networking knowledge gained over the last 20 years. Saying that, i have seen stranger things in my days and it is quite possible something is technically wrong, however, at this point in time all Bioware is doing is point a finger without any reasonable explanation to a system that works perfectly well for other games when it comes to collecting stats and including of promotions.

I don't feel I or any other PS3 user is unreasonable here, we paid the same price for this game as others and only look for the same thing that the others are getting for that monetary value.

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Eagerly awaiting a reply on the PS3 situation.

I still feel rather deceived. If they had all of these events planned before the game's release, they should have known that their events would not have worked on the PS3, and that would have influenced my purchase.

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Sypher90 wrote...

Eagerly awaiting a reply on the PS3 situation.

I still feel rather deceived. If they had all of these events planned before the game's release, they should have known that their events would not have worked on the PS3, and that would have influenced my purchase.


I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events i would not of purchased this game.

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Ew_Tux wrote...
Maybe i am , Maybe i am not, you do realise that not all coders work for Bioware yes?
I never said anything in the lines of "I hate" ... I am 40yrs of age and know better than that, due to being that age i've also learned to be realistic and think things through.

Like said before, there is nothing logical that would prevent Bioware/EA from including PS3 users. I have actually thought about this, with , wait for it, ... my programming & networking knowledge gained over the last 20 years. Saying that, i have seen stranger things in my days and it is quite possible something is technically wrong, however, at this point in time all Bioware is doing is point a finger without any reasonable explanation to a system that works perfectly well for other games when it comes to collecting stats and including of promotions.

I don't feel I or any other PS3 user is unreasonable here, we paid the same price for this game as others and only look for the same thing that the others are getting for that monetary value.


At first glance corporal bureaucracy comes to my mind as logical reason. For example sony requiring separate permissions to gather data for each event. If this takes more than one week, it's pretty much impossible for BW to do it. So they are trying to reach an agreement with sony to solve the issue.

Or sony requiring payments to give out data. Wouldn't be suprised about this either.

No, you are pretty much unreasonable. If my company gives a marketing promotion for example german guests, I would pretty much laugh at your face if you start to write angry emails to me from the US for example and try to tell me how you have been wronged.

BW made no promises neither to xbox, pc or ps3 owners only about the ability to play MP or SP. Any additional content is a gift - which BW can give out any way they want.

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dingus4321 wrote...

Sypher90 wrote...

Eagerly awaiting a reply on the PS3 situation.

I still feel rather deceived. If they had all of these events planned before the game's release, they should have known that their events would not have worked on the PS3, and that would have influenced my purchase.


I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events i would not of purchased this game.


You didn't know events would happen the first place.

But I guess a post that says 'I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events which i have no idea that would happen i would not of purchased this game.' can't be taken that seriously. 

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If I get Eagle II in the pack, I'm gonna rage real hard.

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don't feel like getting in to this arguement again but i'm gonna say that i have yet to see a good reason as to what microsoft gets out this


To make sony look bad, and convince people to buy games for their system.  You already have people posting here on the forum that say they won't buy a BW/EA game for ps3 again and forums are always only a tiny subset of the real population, so if they buy it for xbox, thats more money for M$

if they did pay for exclusivity and why does pc have it then.(swear to god if you say because windows is microsof's i'm gonna explode)


Well, the PC isn't exactly a direct competitor of consoles, its sorta a different market all togther.  They're used for things besides games, they're many times more expensive, its a different type of investment.  Plus people heavily favor one control scheme over another.  Trying to sway ps3 users to xbox is much easier then trying to drag pc gamers away from their mice and keyboards. 

Edit: Plus, M$ owns windows, they have Games for windows paired with xbox live and a whole bunch of **** like that.

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golyoscsapagy wrote...

dingus4321 wrote...

Sypher90 wrote...

Eagerly awaiting a reply on the PS3 situation.

I still feel rather deceived. If they had all of these events planned before the game's release, they should have known that their events would not have worked on the PS3, and that would have influenced my purchase.


I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events i would not of purchased this game.


You didn't know events would happen the first place.

But I guess a post that says 'I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events which i have no idea that would happen i would not of purchased this game.' can't be taken that seriously. 


Yet they can run events that all console owners can play in but  they seem to run events that ps3 owners can not take part in.
So why not just run events we can all take part in,instead of just 360/pc owners.

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Message to Chris Priestly: Do you ever think, when you post these messages informing the community of free promotions that get them something for nothing, that you are in fact throwing a conversational hand grenade? I must admit, the blast yield and damage beats MP Frag Grenades quite nicely...

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dingus4321 wrote...

golyoscsapagy wrote...

dingus4321 wrote...

Sypher90 wrote...

Eagerly awaiting a reply on the PS3 situation.

I still feel rather deceived. If they had all of these events planned before the game's release, they should have known that their events would not have worked on the PS3, and that would have influenced my purchase.


I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events i would not of purchased this game.


You didn't know events would happen the first place.

But I guess a post that says 'I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events which i have no idea that would happen i would not of purchased this game.' can't be taken that seriously. 


Yet they can run events that all console owners can play in but  they seem to run events that ps3 owners can not take part in.
So why not just run events we can all take part in,instead of just 360/pc owners.


Probably because an event which gives 25% xp is utter crap compared to one that nets you new goodies. I know for one that I skipped the entire 25% xp weekend (the weather was awesome and went out). If it was about goodies you bet I would have got that out of the way first:)

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man i kinda dont wanna do this because i dont want to balloon my war assets.

itd be nice if war assets from the iphone game and multiplayer only counted the first time, and then after that it just added to galactic readiness.

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Well i will wait and see if ps3 owners get to play in this event if not i am finished with bioware/ea.

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golyoscsapagy wrote...

dingus4321 wrote...

Sypher90 wrote...

Eagerly awaiting a reply on the PS3 situation.

I still feel rather deceived. If they had all of these events planned before the game's release, they should have known that their events would not have worked on the PS3, and that would have influenced my purchase.


I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events i would not of purchased this game.


You didn't know events would happen the first place.

But I guess a post that says 'I agree if i had known ps3 users were not able to play in these events which i have no idea that would happen i would not of purchased this game.' can't be taken that seriously. 


That's completely beside the point; there is absolutely no relation to what you just said and what should have happened. It doesn't matter if the consumer didn't know there were going to be events. The consumer should have been warned that certain online components may or may not be available to owners of this specific platform.

They had these events planned several weeks before the game came out (according to a Dev post in the PR analysis thread). In that time, they should've known damn well that the PS3 would encounter problems with said events, and warned potential PS3 buyers.

But nope. They keep mum and commit a lie of omission. It doesn't matter if WE didn't know events would happen. It matters that THEY knew.

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Guaritor wrote...

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don't feel like getting in to this arguement again but i'm gonna say that i have yet to see a good reason as to what microsoft gets out this


To make sony look bad, and convince people to buy games for their system.  You already have people posting here on the forum that say they won't buy a BW/EA game for ps3 again and forums are always only a tiny subset of the real population, so if they buy it for xbox, thats more money for M$

if they did pay for exclusivity and why does pc have it then.(swear to god if you say because windows is microsof's i'm gonna explode)


Well, the PC isn't exactly a direct competitor of consoles, its sorta a different market all togther.  They're used for things besides games, they're many times more expensive, its a different type of investment.  Plus people heavily favor one control scheme over another.  Trying to sway ps3 users to xbox is much easier then trying to drag pc gamers away from their mice and keyboards. 

Edit: Plus, M$ owns windows, they have Games for windows paired with xbox live and a whole bunch of **** like that.

exactly these event aren't advertised at all the only ps3 players that know about this are the forum users and your above average gamer if your gonna make someone look bad you want people to know about it and amd nowhere near enough people know about this to make any actual profit from the people that actually switch over and if it where between two companies with one trying to make the other look bad a small community event is certainly not enough to make anyone switch. also most pc gamers use steam and despise windows live so no money for MS. oh and ME3 isn't on windows live.

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Did you just say something about apple!

Don't even get me started!

Android 4 life! Custom ROMS+ kernels FTW!

I'm not even gonna argue with you about that!

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bloodDragon80 wrote...

Guaritor wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...
don't feel like getting in to this arguement again but i'm gonna say that i have yet to see a good reason as to what microsoft gets out this


To make sony look bad, and convince people to buy games for their system.  You already have people posting here on the forum that say they won't buy a BW/EA game for ps3 again and forums are always only a tiny subset of the real population, so if they buy it for xbox, thats more money for M$

if they did pay for exclusivity and why does pc have it then.(swear to god if you say because windows is microsof's i'm gonna explode)


Well, the PC isn't exactly a direct competitor of consoles, its sorta a different market all togther.  They're used for things besides games, they're many times more expensive, its a different type of investment.  Plus people heavily favor one control scheme over another.  Trying to sway ps3 users to xbox is much easier then trying to drag pc gamers away from their mice and keyboards. 

Edit: Plus, M$ owns windows, they have Games for windows paired with xbox live and a whole bunch of **** like that.

exactly these event aren't advertised at all the only ps3 players that know about this are the forum users and your above average gamer if your gonna make someone look bad you want people to know about it and amd nowhere near enough people know about this to make any actual profit from the people that actually switch over and if it where between two companies with one trying to make the other look bad a small community event is certainly not enough to make anyone switch. also most pc gamers use steam and despise windows live so no money for MS. oh and ME3 isn't on windows live.



Jesus christ dude, wake up. Take a business class at your local ****hole comminity college. BW/EA is not going to come out and say "hey ps3 owners, we are ****ing you." Nor is M$ going to come out and say "Hey PS3 owners, we are paying BW/EA to **** you." Sony is not going to come out and say "hey ps3 owners, EA/BW is ****ing you because we don't like x." You logic reminds me of the ending to this game. Flawed, insular, circular and not worth educating. Are you CHudson?