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How the Wardens Came to Be?


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Interesting, so I wasn't that far off. But it seems you were more right on this one, Lynata.

Incidentally, where do you find these things?

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 The Dragon Age P&P RPG books - this particular bit is from the Gamemaster's Guide of Set 2. I didn't spot it myself until now because I usually only read the Player's Guides included in each set, but as it turns out the GM one includes not just NPC stats and adventures but background descriptions as well. :)

The books of each Set (there have been two so far, and a third one is currently in open playtest) generally contain a lot of information on all topics disseminated throughout their contents, but let me whip up a list of those discussed in more detail:

Set 1 Player Guide:
  • Introduction (Thedan History, The Nine Ages)
  • Ferelden (History, Culture, Society)
  • Magic (The Fade, Dangers of Magic)
Set 1 GM Guide:
  • Location: Vintiver (Ferelden)
Set 2 Player Guide:
  • Grey Wardens (History, Organization, Recruitment, Methods)
  • Orzammar (History, Culture, Hierarchy)
  • Religions and Beliefs in Thedas (Andrastean and Imperial Chantry, Dwarven Beliefs, Elven Pantheon, The Qun)
  • Circle of Magi (Organization, Hierarchy, Factions, Risks, Training, Harrowing, Tranquil)
  • Order of Templars (Initiation and Training, Garrisons, Right of Annulment)
Set 2 GM Guide:
  • Blights (Origin, Progression)
  • Grey Wardens (The Joining, The Calling)
  • Location: Cumberland (Nevarra)
Now, it's still primarily a P&P game, but for people who are really into the setting, I would say it'd pay off getting them even just for the additional background information. They're available as digital downloads on DriveThruRPG now, as well!

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xTemplarxCDx wrote...

This just came to my head while reading this thread

According to Elven lore, the Old Gods "evil/bad gods" were tricked and sealed in the underworld "Black city" and the Good Gods were tricked and were sealed in the heavens "Golden city" by Fen'Heral to stop a war between the two factions and save the people of Thedas.

Dumat called out to the Tevinter mages and offered "Golden city" but lied and sent them to the "Black city" (Legacy gives evidence for this) thus releasing the Old Gods from the "Black city" and unleashing the darkspawn upon the world, meanwhile, the Good Gods are still trapped in the "Golden city".

Fen'Heral, who is possibly Flemeth, sees the Old Gods escape their prison and helps create the Grey Wardens, to save the people. This is what Fen'Heral was trying to do in the first place by sealing the gods away and stopping their war.

The Good Gods, like the Old Gods, call out from the heavens to mortals to do their biddings, thus we have Andraste (prophet of the Maker). The Good Gods wanted justice for what the mages did to the world, releasing the Old Gods, so they created or guided Andraste to create the Chantry and subjugate the mages and protect them from the Old Gods "callings"(mages are more vulnerable to the "callings" for the same reason they are vulnerable to demons and such).

You could say, but why would the Good Gods tell Andraste to tell the world that the darkspawn are a punishment for trying to reach the "Golden city"? They want people to think there are no other gods but them so they give themselves one entity, the Maker, and denounce the darkspawn as just punishment for reaching the "Golden city". The people wont believe there are any gods but the Maker, thus the people only worship the Maker (the Good Gods).

Note: in real life most gods created people to worship them so it makes sense if the Good Gods want to convince the people of Thedas that they are the only gods so they get all the worship for themselves, and the Old Gods get no one.


The golden city/black city theory is something that crossed my mind too.

The only difference in your theory to mine are your thoughts about Andraste. I replied earlier in this thread about my thoughts on her.
If Andraste went to mount Sundermount and it went down like I described she would be under influence of 1 "good god" not all of them. And there is no real evidence about what the all the gods referred to in Thedas really are. They can be entity's of any kind.
And Andraste didn't form the chantry. Followers did this after her death. These were also the ones who wrote their own interpretation of Andraste.