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[tanuki]

ChuckNorris18 wrote...

This makes things even worse.

[Fnork]

I also don't buy the "It was just a story told by the Stargazer". It's got something to do with the collectors abducting and melting down thousands of people and how I don't think that makes for a very good story to tell to children.

[GB-Kakuzu]

sveners wrote...

J.d. Scott on the Escapist forums : 

http://www.escapistm...358206.14163378


Basic points. The games were a legend told by Stargazer to the child. Because it is set in the long distant past, some details are lost. Like was "The Shepard" male or female. Who he/she knew. Who she/he loved. Did the quarians live? Did the geth? Krogan? Rachni? None of it matters. The end is the only "sure" knowledge. The Citadel existed. The Crucible was involved. And the Reapers were stopped. By one of three methods, providing similar endings.

That doesn't make any sense since the whole story leading up to that was "told" in such fine detail.

Bioware promised a wide variety of endings.  They also said that our choices throughout the previous games would matter and that we would have closure.  Tacking something like the Stargazer on at the end does not make up for those broken promises.

sveners wrote...

Was it a good idea?

It was not a good idea.

It was far too late to change the way the story was being delivered. 
You can't just throw something like that in at the end and expect it to
work or for people to like it.  You have to set it up ahead of time. The players don't know who Stargazer is, much less care about him.  It ends up being meaningless to the player.

Modifié par GB-Kakuzu, 28 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[Necrotron]

Yes, I love to get engrossed in a 150+ hour story only to be told at the end, 'it was all fake anyways!'

*sigh* Silly me for getting connected with the characters.

[LegacyOfTheAsh]

GravityEyelids wrote...

Is it not possible the Stargeezer got the story from Liara's time capsule?

Scene still sucked.

I could see that. The planets/celstial bodies in the sky of the Stargazer's planet seem to be the same as the planet the Normandy crashed on.

[erikage]

That's a sick twisted story to tell to a child. Death, Sex, War. But on a more serious note, that scene is open to interpretation just like the current ending is. That user clearly is taking what he interpreted as 100% fact.

[AllergevKev]

I thought this was incredibly obvious. It's also a terrible idea. Once again, something that could be good for another series, just not Mass Effect.

[KingNothing125]

liesandpropaganda wrote...

I still maintain that ME3 should have been told by Zaeed

sorta like Varric and DA2

but Zaeed

that would be awesome

That would better explain all the sex. Zaeed doesn't seem like the kind of guy to shy away from that.

The only problem is that if Zaeed were telling the story, he would be the only one who survived at the end.

Modifié par KingNothing125, 28 mars 2012 - 07:36 .

[Eyelidsz]

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

GravityEyelids wrote...

Is it not possible the Stargeezer got the story from Liara's time capsule?

Scene still sucked.

I could see that. The planets/celstial bodies in the sky of the Stargazer's planet seem to be the same as the planet the Normandy crashed on.

Makes way more sense than it just being a story made up by the guy, whether the writers intended it or not.

Modifié par GravityEyelids, 28 mars 2012 - 07:37 .

[Giantdeathrobot]

Yeah, OK, but how does this solves the ending's problems, exactly?

[Craigolas]

Carlthestrange wrote...

"It was all just a dream? Isn't that like... a huge middle finger to the fans?"

Apparently it was a story coming from an old man.

[Corrik Ronis]

"I don't know man, think you'd ****** off a lot of people that way."

Hold the line.

[jlb524]

Shepard never existed and it was all a story told to a child for the lulz.

[MrAtomica]

Least Varric was a clear and present plot device from the beginning. He was unreliable as all hell, but he was no curveball.

This...this is the complete opposite. The storyteller was thrown in within the very last minute of the ENTIRE 120+ hour trilogy.

[Quintus Kessler]

From: Harby69@darkspace.glx
To: OP
Subject: Topic

THIS THREAD IS IRRELEVANT. RESISTANCE VERSUS BIOWARE IS FUTILE. WE CAN WAIT. TIME IS AN ILLUSION.

[Barbie__Boy]

I get it now
it wasn't bioware giving us a crap ending
it was bioware telling us a story about and old man giving us a crap ending

the trilogy have been building to the conclusion that the "old man telling a story" stereotype makes no sense since old men just **** **** up

clearly this ending is just great now

[a.m.p]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

Yeah, OK, but how does this solves the ending's problems, exactly?

It doesn't.
Well, it can explain the space magic.

Are they all going to die, grandpa? Please don't let them die!
All right... then... then this little brave boy takes the shepard up to his magical machine and they find a new solution that does not need the reapers. It's late now, go to bed.

Wow, that's the second ending worse than the exisiting ones I've seen in one day.

Modifié par a.m.p, 28 mars 2012 - 07:46 .

[adneate]

So tell me what's the point of a framed narrative if it adds nothing to the story and actually detracts from it?

Still trying to figure that one out from when I played Dragon Age 2, now they gone an done it again according to some guy.

[The Angry One]

Barbie__Boy wrote...

I get it now
it wasn't bioware giving us a crap ending
it was bioware telling us a story about and old man giving us a crap ending

the trilogy have been building to the conclusion that the "old man telling a story" stereotype makes no sense since old men just **** **** up

clearly this ending is just great now

I don't know I don't ever remember my grandfather ending stories with "And then the hero gave up and everybody died."

[Barbie__Boy]

The Angry One wrote...

Barbie__Boy wrote...

I get it now
it wasn't bioware giving us a crap ending
it was bioware telling us a story about and old man giving us a crap ending

the trilogy have been building to the conclusion that the "old man telling a story" stereotype makes no sense since old men just **** **** up

clearly this ending is just great now

I don't know I don't ever remember my grandfather ending stories with "And then the hero gave up and everybody died."

well then, obviously he wasn't really a grandfather then :innocent:

[Heather Cline]

The endings were a rip off of Deus Ex Machina. It isn't thought provoking and it isn't a reshaping of the first 3 games. It's a slap in the face to all the fans. They just took the ending to a different game, slapped it onto ME3, repainted it and called it theirs. Utter bull crap.

This person's explanation of the endings mean nothing to me.

[Deventh]

This is just making things worse, seriously.

[revo76]

please dont give ideas to developers.