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[N7-RedFox]

Usually i play vs Reapers or Cerberus. So one guy pipes up that he wants to fight Geth and since i was host i thought sure why not. So i stick us on silver with Geth. How pissed off was i when i found Primes/rocket launchers were completely ignoring my cloak? VERY!

Please can we have this fixed in the next patch? Or shall i just paint a target on my back instead?

[KainD]

It's the geth prime drone - it sees cloacked targets. Shoot it down, and your good.

[wirelesstkd]

I've seen the Geth keep firing on the position an infiltrator was last in... but if you move position, they keep going at the old position. I think this is intended... so if you cloak, you have to move to a new spot.

At least that's what I saw last night... it could be different for you.

[wotmaniac]

what about pyros? somehow they know you're there and they just burn you a crispy salarian.

[ajburges]

Firing where you were: ok (and effective for pyros)

Heat seeking rockets: not cool man.

[BigTuna82]

completely!

[MartialArtsSurfer]

mobs will see your shimmering outline if they are too close to you or if you cloak in front of them/fire at your last known position

[teh DRUMPf!!]

As others have said, you need to move a bit after cloaking. Enemies will still fire in your general area if you cloak in front of them or are close enough to detect.

[N7-RedFox]

Not on my last position. I ran and dodged paths while cloaked. I got shot at the whole time. Tried taking down the Prime's drone, the damned toaster still fired rockets at me. Definately bs man. Bug needs fixing. I don't see Cerberus or Reapers doing that crap while im cloaked.

Also Pyros and Hunters FOLLOW me while im cloaked. Total bs

Modifié par CaptainTeabag, 28 mars 2012 - 07:28 .

[Minkyboi]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Not on my last position. I ran and dodged paths while cloaked. I got shot at the whole time. Tried taking down the Prime's drone, the damned toaster still fired rockets at me. Definately bs man. Bug needs fixing. I don't see Cerberus or Reapers doing that crap while im cloaked.

Also Pyros and Hunters FOLLOW me while im cloaked. Total bs

It's not a magical button that makes you disappear in an instant. They didn't make the AI that entirely stupid...

Modifié par Minkyboi, 28 mars 2012 - 07:33 .

[BigTuna82]

Minkyboi wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Not on my last position. I ran and dodged paths while cloaked. I got shot at the whole time. Tried taking down the Prime's drone, the damned toaster still fired rockets at me. Definately bs man. Bug needs fixing. I don't see Cerberus or Reapers doing that crap while im cloaked.

Also Pyros and Hunters FOLLOW me while im cloaked. Total bs

It's not a magical button that makes you disappear in an instant. They didn't make the AI that entirely stupid...

If it isn't an I-Win button then it's completely broken!

[N7-RedFox]

My cloak is fully leveled up and lasts 13 secs. I run the entire stretch of the noveria base around several corners and they still home straight in on me. Only the Geth do this which is why im calling it broken.

There have been times where i've been in close quarters with Brutes and they've slammed me down even while cloaked but thats my own fault. The Geth on the other hand are an entirely different story. Its like soon as i cloak i become public enemy No.1 and there's a huge red flare lit in my pants

[HippyGiJoe]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Not on my last position. I ran and dodged paths while cloaked. I got shot at the whole time. Tried taking down the Prime's drone, the damned toaster still fired rockets at me. Definately bs man. Bug needs fixing. I don't see Cerberus or Reapers doing that crap while im cloaked.

Also Pyros and Hunters FOLLOW me while im cloaked. Total bs

Maybe they follow you cause they follow the path of least resistance to the next team mate.
And to OP, cloak is fine. Sure if you go cloak in the open, they still shoot at you, but if you play smart that wont happen.
Cloak is fine, i allready think its a small god mode with Energy Drain.

[sliverofamoon]

I have the SAME problem... it seems like cloak is growing more and more useless, except for the damage bonus....

[Exodus2000]

Its the same way you can still see hunters when they are cloaked...

[N7-RedFox]

Exodus2000 wrote...

Its the same way you can still see hunters when they are cloaked...

So how come no other faction reacts like the Geth do?

[Exodus2000]

They do phantoms do, banshee's do..

[Vaneke]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

I run the entire stretch of the noveria base around several corners and they still home straight in on me. Only the Geth do this which is why im calling it broken.

First off, cloak is fine. AI isn't stupid, they did a good job on that.

But this, if i understand it right, you're the last one standing, and running to the other side to get a clean shot?
If you're at one side and fire they know you are there, offcourse they will home in on you.
If you then cloak and switch position they will know where you are when you decloak or get to close for them to see you, cause, you are not invisible.
I don't know how the AI responds to the cloak and the distance etc .., but what i do know is that it works, it isn't "broken", and doesn't need a "fix". of any kind.

[N7-RedFox]

HippyGiJoe wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Not on my last position. I ran and dodged paths while cloaked. I got shot at the whole time. Tried taking down the Prime's drone, the damned toaster still fired rockets at me. Definately bs man. Bug needs fixing. I don't see Cerberus or Reapers doing that crap while im cloaked.

Also Pyros and Hunters FOLLOW me while im cloaked. Total bs

Maybe they follow you cause they follow the path of least resistance to the next team mate.
And to OP, cloak is fine. Sure if you go cloak in the open, they still shoot at you, but if you play smart that wont happen.
Cloak is fine, i allready think its a small god mode with Energy Drain.

Can't say im a fan of energy drain. Unless ur enemy is using barriers or shields then there's nothing there to be stolen. I'd rather fire a fully upgraded proxy mine at the enemy's feet and take down the thing thats shooting at me.

[N7-RedFox]

Vaneke wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

I run the entire stretch of the noveria base around several corners and they still home straight in on me. Only the Geth do this which is why im calling it broken.

First off, cloak is fine. AI isn't stupid, they did a good job on that.

But this, if i understand it right, you're the last one standing, and running to the other side to get a clean shot?
If you're at one side and fire they know you are there, offcourse they will home in on you.
If you then cloak and switch position they will know where you are when you decloak or get to close for them to see you, cause, you are not invisible.
I don't know how the AI responds to the cloak and the distance etc .., but what i do know is that it works, it isn't "broken", and doesn't need a "fix". of any kind.

Still only happens when fighting Geth.

If it isn't broken then all factions should react like the Geth or else the Geth should react like the others. Unless Bioware has made them a special case and they can follow u using heat trackers. But that was never affirmed. Maybe it should be.

[Vaneke]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Still only happens when fighting Geth.

Is that so?

Have you ever been last man standing vs a phatom(s) or banshee(s)?

If you are at a distance and cloak the phatom still "pew pew's" you with that friggin laser, and you can dodge or change paths, it won't work.

same for the banshee, it will still hit you with that bolt. even if you cloak, run, then it shoots, it still traces you like a heat seeking bolt and hits you.
got shot down lots of time by that thinking i could escape with no shields, to cocky to pop a survival pack and get hit in the back.
you're not invisible, it's pro AI at times (sentinels fail abit at that tho  ).
If it is really broken i'm sure someone from BW will confirm it.

[Nasu no Yoichi]

I have to concur with the OP that Geth do seem to do this more than other factions.

I've never seen Banshees or Brutes know where you are unless you're right on top of them, and even then they don't follow you around the map while you're stealthed (I've had Pyros and Hunters pursue me all over the place while I've been stealthed and been the only one still alive, with no Prime drone around...). Although Banshees will know where you are as soon as the cloak wears off, even on the other side of the map. Phantoms... again, I've never been pursued around the map by a Phantom while cloaked, but then I usually take them down ASAP, so I can't really be sure they won't do it.

However, the only thing I'd like changed is that if you cloak in view of a Rocket Trooper, and move away, and then it fires, his rocket should target where you were, swerve in mid air and head to where you are, provided you are not up in his face (in which case it should be able to see your outline and aim at it).

Modifié par Nasu no Yoichi, 28 mars 2012 - 08:01 .

[Nasu no Yoichi]

Vaneke wrote...


Is that so?

Have you ever been last man standing vs a phatom(s) or banshee(s)?

If you are at a distance and cloak the phatom still "pew pew's" you with that friggin laser, and you can dodge or change paths, it won't work.

same for the banshee, it will still hit you with that bolt. even if you cloak, run, then it shoots, it still traces you like a heat seeking bolt and hits you.
got shot down lots of time by that thinking i could escape with no shields, to cocky to pop a survival pack and get hit in the back.
you're not invisible, it's pro AI at times (sentinels fail abit at that tho  ).
If it is really broken i'm sure someone from BW will confirm it.

Now that you mention it, this is exactly like the Rocket trooper thing. I wonder if it's lag related, or actually implemented like that (intentionally or otherwise). The targeting could be processed before the server receives the event for you cloaking, and it keeps the lock on your position or something.

Modifié par Nasu no Yoichi, 28 mars 2012 - 08:05 .

[squidney2k1]

It's not just the Geth.


All enemies seem to target a cloaked Host. It's very apparent with against the Prime, Atlas, and Phantoms, as they seem to auto-target the wall you're behind, regardless if you were in their line of sight before you cloaked.

[Horacio Zhao]

actually, I found the same problem with Banshees and Brutes, it seems they have some kind of sensor or something. Cloak is completely useless.