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#76
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banthracis wrote...

You guys are aware that promoting is pretty much pointless outside epeen right?
I'm only 150 because I've promoted once given the lack of incentives to promote.

However, I've played over 200 gold matches at this point and guarantee that there are players with N7 of 400 who have less experience than I do, and likewise, players with N7 lower than mine who have probably played twice as many gold games.

N7 really is meaningless unless you actively promote and like re leveling characters.



Depends, unless you get a lot of respecs card or skill every character like you want him to be in the first try, you need to promote a few times. I got to a N7 Rating of about 220 just by trying out most classe. Sometimes I had to promote because my build didn't work out like I wanted. 

I'd say after 400 or 500 it becomes pretty pointless since you'll know the best/working builds anyway. I'll still do it, just out of fun ;).   

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OniGanon wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

2 men on Gold. Nearly 200k points. Only used 1 rocket.

Get on my level.


Yes, we're all very impressed with your mad Decoy skills.


Who said anything about Decoy?

The only time we used them is when we did the team-hack objectives that we had for all 3 objectives.

Not only is Decoy overrated, but it hardly works as much as people think.

Shield Drain is 100x more useful, and no we did not stay at the bottom room the whole time.

65% of our kills were from tech bursts, and the other 35% were from phalanx & disciple.

Until most of you guys saying that I am only worried about my E-peen post a pic of 2 manning Gold, I have to say that yes, I am better than you.

The guy that did it with me was a random, and he was only N7 80 or so using the same loadout as me almost. I outscored him and he used 2 rockets.

Proving again that when you play the game more that usually means you are better.

Modifié par Drummernate, 29 mars 2012 - 01:09 .


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kieran.me wrote...

because it's all about you isn't it op?

i often leave people to die because they die in the middle of a big group of enemies!


*FACEPALM*

I don't care if it was only me that didn't get rezzed.... I've said this time and time again in this thread... but the other high level N7's WERE NOT REZZING EACH OTHER EITHER. Try and read this if you can...

EG NeoMorph wrote...

Was in several matches tonight with high ranking N7 players (400+) and OMG were they crap/selfish players.

Basically
if you went down they just didn't revive you.
I spent most of the
mission just rezzing them and when I went down they let me bleed out.
Hell the one time I went down within fingers distance of this guy and
what did he do... carried on firing and then MOVED AWAY FROM ME. In the
end I just left the game in disgust.

Now was there a "Be a Selfish Git" event I was unaware of? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]


Note I didn't say ME... I said YOU. I think in future I will just have to record stuff like this just to show what I mean because some people on here just don't read and digest.

Mind you, I should have guessed with a name that has .me in it! It's all about you isn't it kieran.me.

If you want to solo the damned level then MAKE A PRIVATE GAME and go play with yourself. This is supposed to be a team game but some players are playing it like deathmatch instead. All I can say is THANK GOD FF IS OFF.

:blink:

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Nogthwai wrote...

Depends, unless you get a lot of respecs card or skill every character like you want him to be in the first try, you need to promote a few times. I got to a N7 Rating of about 220 just by trying out most classe. Sometimes I had to promote because my build didn't work out like I wanted. 

I'd say after 400 or 500 it becomes pretty pointless since you'll know the best/working builds anyway. I'll still do it, just out of fun ;).   


Did all my build testing in beta :)

That and I've got a stack of ~15 respec cards sitting unused...

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Drummernate wrote...

Who said anything about Decoy?

The only time we used them is when we did the team-hack objectives that we had for all 3 objectives.

Not only is Decoy overrated, but it hardly works as much as people think.

Shield Drain is 100x more useful, and no we did not stay at the bottom room the whole time.

65% of our kills were from tech bursts, and the other 35% were from phalanx & disciple.

Until most of you guys saying that I am only worried about my E-peen post a pic of 2 manning Gold, I have to say that yes, I am better than you.

The guy that did it with me was a random, and he was only N7 80 or so using the same loadout as me almost. I outscored him and he used 2 rockets.

Proving again that when you play the game more that usually means you are better.



N7 score =/= you played a ton. As I mentioned, there are plenty of ppl at N7 of 120 or 150 who have played hundreds of gold games. Likewise, I ran into a N7 256 guy last night who never played a single gold game before.

N7 is no indication of experience, it's simply an indication of how many character you promoted. In fact, you could get to N7 of 4000 or more if you wanted without playing a single game just by buying packs.

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Yeah, i know what OP's talking about. I've been in games where people with n7 ratings as low as 40-50 are better players and squad-mates and outscore higher ranked n7 players (like a 45 ranked player leading in a game with 2 n7's higher than 300 )

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EG NeoMorph wrote...
N7 means diddly squat.


Well, duh.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 29 mars 2012 - 02:55 .


#83
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banthracis wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Who said anything about Decoy?

The only time we used them is when we did the team-hack objectives that we had for all 3 objectives.

Not only is Decoy overrated, but it hardly works as much as people think.

Shield Drain is 100x more useful, and no we did not stay at the bottom room the whole time.

65% of our kills were from tech bursts, and the other 35% were from phalanx & disciple.

Until most of you guys saying that I am only worried about my E-peen post a pic of 2 manning Gold, I have to say that yes, I am better than you.

The guy that did it with me was a random, and he was only N7 80 or so using the same loadout as me almost. I outscored him and he used 2 rockets.

Proving again that when you play the game more that usually means you are better.



N7 score =/= you played a ton. As I mentioned, there are plenty of ppl at N7 of 120 or 150 who have played hundreds of gold games. Likewise, I ran into a N7 256 guy last night who never played a single gold game before.

N7 is no indication of experience, it's simply an indication of how many character you promoted. In fact, you could get to N7 of 4000 or more if you wanted without playing a single game just by buying packs.


I will give you that.

Also you can kinda tell who the AFK leechers are.... when they join a match and just sit there until the end then run in the circle.

Those are some of the exceptions, but in general it means we played more.

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Drummernate wrote...

Who said anything about Decoy?

The only time we used them is when we did the team-hack objectives that we had for all 3 objectives.

Not only is Decoy overrated, but it hardly works as much as people think.

Shield Drain is 100x more useful, and no we did not stay at the bottom room the whole time.


And the fish that got away was THIS BIG.

The screenshot doesn't prove anything about how skilled you are, because anyone could produce that screenshot using the method we have described.

Decoy works nearly 100% of the time against Geth as long as you are intelligent about where you stand and where you put the Decoy.  It's not hard, and it doesn't cut into your Energy Drain spam much to refresh it twice a minute.

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Drummernate wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

The Higher N7, means nothing about the player.

I am N7 200+ and I can guarantee that I will outperform Drummernate using an equal level class and race. Solely on the fact that I know more about the game than he does, from doing things for so much longer. I know exactly where enemies spawn based on your current location, I know exactly where each enemy type likes to take cover, and I know exactly how to do objectives.

96.5% of the time this is the case.

The other 3.5% is the rarity of someone who does not promote people.

If an even level (80) with good guns joins a game I will let them play since usually that means they just don't promote.

But if a level 46 joins, or 142 or something barely above an even number, that typically means he only promotes one-two classes. Especially if he has crap guns.


Cool story bro.

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2 men on Gold. Nearly 200k points. Only used 1 rocket.

Get on my level.


thats not really impressive at all. This is a PvE game ... anybody can learn in time how to beat a couple of AI enemies with predicatbale moves, spawns, and attack patterns.

just saying.

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Drummernate wrote...

The Higher N7, the better the player.


Uhm... no.

The higher the N7, the more the player has promoted.  At best, N7 is a rough rating of how long someone's played, and due to the fact that many players don't bother to promote, it's a poor rating of even that.  Heck, I've seen an N7 500 who said he's never been able to beat Gold before. 

N7 ranking is nothing even approaching a competitive ranking system, and pretending it is is disingenuous.  You don't actually need to accomplish anything at all other than playing continuously to achieve a high N7 ranking, and literally anyone is capable of that.

Drummernate wrote...

Until most of you guys saying that I
am only worried about my E-peen post a pic of 2 manning Gold, I have to
say that yes, I am better than you.


I've soloed to extraction on Gold as the following classes:
-Human Soldier (v Cerberus)
-Krogan Soldier (v Cerberus)
-Salarian Engineer (v Geth)
-Human Sentinel w/ respec card (v Reapers)
-Asari Adept (v Cerberus and Reapers)
-Asari Vanguard (v Cerberus)
-Salarian Infiltrator (v Cerberus and Geth)
-Quarian Infiltrator (v Geth)
-Human Vanguard (v All)

I'd happily post vids if I had any way to record footage from my Xbox. As is I've only heard of methods that rely on expensive cards and such. If anyone has any suggestions I will gladly do new solo runs of Gold and post videos.

Infiltrators were using Black Widow, Vanguards, Salarian Engineer, and Asari Adept were using Carnifex, Human Sentinel and Soldiers were using a Geth Plasma Shotgun.  Oh yeah, and the Asari Adept switched the Carnifex for a GPS against Reapers.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 29 mars 2012 - 03:13 .


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Drummernate wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

The Higher N7, means nothing about the player.

I am N7 200+ and I can guarantee that I will outperform Drummernate using an equal level class and race. Solely on the fact that I know more about the game than he does, from doing things for so much longer. I know exactly where enemies spawn based on your current location, I know exactly where each enemy type likes to take cover, and I know exactly how to do objectives.

96.5% of the time this is the case.

The other 3.5% is the rarity of someone who does not promote people.

If an even level (80) with good guns joins a game I will let them play since usually that means they just don't promote.

But if a level 46 joins, or 142 or something barely above an even number, that typically means he only promotes one-two classes. Especially if he has crap guns.


Cool story bro.

Posted Image

2 men on Gold. Nearly 200k points. Only used 1 rocket.

Get on my level.



Now perform that feat on random enemy and map.... thought so...

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Trix-Rabbit wrote...

Now perform that feat on random enemy and map.... thought so...


I would happily take that challenge as an Asari Adept or a Human Vanguard with only one player.  Maaaybe Salarian Infiltrator, except that I don't like to snipe vs Reapers and would want to change my weapons (and obviously can't on random).

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 29 mars 2012 - 03:15 .


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Drummernate wrote...

OniGanon wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

2 men on Gold. Nearly 200k points. Only used 1 rocket.

Get on my level.


Yes, we're all very impressed with your mad Decoy skills.


Who said anything about Decoy?

The only time we used them is when we did the team-hack objectives that we had for all 3 objectives.

Not only is Decoy overrated, but it hardly works as much as people think.

Shield Drain is 100x more useful, and no we did not stay at the bottom room the whole time.

65% of our kills were from tech bursts, and the other 35% were from phalanx & disciple.

Until most of you guys saying that I am only worried about my E-peen post a pic of 2 manning Gold, I have to say that yes, I am better than you.

The guy that did it with me was a random, and he was only N7 80 or so using the same loadout as me almost. I outscored him and he used 2 rockets.

Proving again that when you play the game more that usually means you are better.


Pfft. Come back when you're soloing gold Reapers with a non Salarian/Asari. Then we'll talk.

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N7 rating I agree doesn't mean jack. For me, it's just because I can't stand wasting exp. So I always promote when I hit 20. Well, except this week because of the event, will have 6 to promote when it launches. =D What weapons you have sometimes make a bigger difference(bronze/silver mainly) I played with like an N7 84 and MFer, had a Widow VI.

I haven't even unlocked a damn rare Sniper Rifle of any kind, and I'm N7 388!

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Goaliebot wrote...
Pfft. Come back when you're soloing gold Reapers with a non Salarian/Asari. Then we'll talk.


I soloed Gold Reapers with two separate human classes (Vanguard and Sentinel).  I actually prefer them against reapers to Asari and Salarians (which I prefer against Cerberus).

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 29 mars 2012 - 03:18 .


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Trix-Rabbit wrote...


Now perform that feat on random enemy and map.... thought so...


Actually it works on all maps, I just did it on FB: White because it takes less time since it is smaller.

I can post one on Glacier, Giant, and Dagger if you want, but then you will say those are too easy as well.

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Goaliebot wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

OniGanon wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

2 men on Gold. Nearly 200k points. Only used 1 rocket.

Get on my level.


Yes, we're all very impressed with your mad Decoy skills.


Who said anything about Decoy?

The only time we used them is when we did the team-hack objectives that we had for all 3 objectives.

Not only is Decoy overrated, but it hardly works as much as people think.

Shield Drain is 100x more useful, and no we did not stay at the bottom room the whole time.

65% of our kills were from tech bursts, and the other 35% were from phalanx & disciple.

Until most of you guys saying that I am only worried about my E-peen post a pic of 2 manning Gold, I have to say that yes, I am better than you.

The guy that did it with me was a random, and he was only N7 80 or so using the same loadout as me almost. I outscored him and he used 2 rockets.

Proving again that when you play the game more that usually means you are better.


Pfft. Come back when you're soloing gold Reapers with a non Salarian/Asari. Then we'll talk.


Im calling BS right now.  You used Decoy alot.
Also Lol at the ED abuse aswell. With stuff like this you can bet salarians will end up nerfed.(even tho id rather everyone else get buffed.)

Modifié par Trix-Rabbit, 29 mars 2012 - 03:20 .


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Trix-Rabbit wrote...

Goaliebot wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

OniGanon wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

2 men on Gold. Nearly 200k points. Only used 1 rocket.

Get on my level.


Yes, we're all very impressed with your mad Decoy skills.


Who said anything about Decoy?

The only time we used them is when we did the team-hack objectives that we had for all 3 objectives.

Not only is Decoy overrated, but it hardly works as much as people think.

Shield Drain is 100x more useful, and no we did not stay at the bottom room the whole time.

65% of our kills were from tech bursts, and the other 35% were from phalanx & disciple.

Until most of you guys saying that I am only worried about my E-peen post a pic of 2 manning Gold, I have to say that yes, I am better than you.

The guy that did it with me was a random, and he was only N7 80 or so using the same loadout as me almost. I outscored him and he used 2 rockets.

Proving again that when you play the game more that usually means you are better.


Pfft. Come back when you're soloing gold Reapers with a non Salarian/Asari. Then we'll talk.


Im calling BS right now.  You used Decoy alot.
Also Lol at the ED abuse aswell. With stuff like this you can bet salarians will end up nerfed.(even tho id rather everyone else get buffed.)


Actually my fastest time was with a Turian Soldier. (And we all know his other 2 abilities are not OP....)

Some people don't need Salarians and Asari to do well.

The only reason I used the Salarian is because when you only have 2 people and a very low equipment reserve it is nice to have a way to get shields back for free. (I only had 1 rocket, and 2 survival packs at the time.)

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I plan on sitting on 120, as I see no point in promoting. I don't need the extra war assets, and I'd rather not customize 4 characters all over again. And N7 rank is meaningless.

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Jesus, look at the one-upmanship going on this thread. What a mess.

I'm at 150. I'm a competent gold player. I would never judge anyone based on their N7 (as long as it was above around 90ish), but would instead play with them first.

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jaydubs67 wrote...

-High N7 means you play the game a lot and you like to promote.

-Low N7 (less than 100) means you haven't played the game as much.

-An N7 equal to your character level means this is your first ever character.

-N7 120 is someone who has maxed their characters and never promoted.

-N7 150 is someone who maxed their characters and promoted once.

We can make some educated guesses about a person's skill level based on this information. It is not a reliable indicator of skill, but there is correlation (since experience tends to be positively related to skill).


Bullcrap

My N7 is under a 100 and I dont have any problems completing gold runs with highest score, and i revive players when its safe to do so. I just dont promote characters and i play mostly my SI or SE.

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Bring on all players. I've carried teams and have been carried. You can be good, bad, or Hanar for all I care. Every player can do good or bad for a mulitude of reasons. Enough whining about revives, strategies, and leveling. Play the game or switch it off.

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there is no point in promoting a character at all, unless you want to show off your N7 rank, or boost your SP score. If you recieved a credit incentive, then maybe i'd more more keep to do it, but as things stand now, my lvel 20 Engineers and Infiltrators are never getting promoted

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Well, isn't it convenient that there's a promotion weekend coming up then?