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[lasertank]

bump this.

[Venturisection]

xMellowhype wrote...

Wouldn't this be common? Millions people bought MW3 in the first week but since everyone has it the number is bound to go down in week 3.

If you can show this is truly unprecedented in the industry then it means a lot.

3.5 Mill shipped doesn't mean 3.5 mill sold as theres probably still loads on shelves. What I mean is there are 3.5 million copies available in the channel at stores.

Modifié par Venturisection, 07 avril 2012 - 10:10 .

[Samuel1323]

cant believe i payed 86 dollars for this hunk of **** game.

[Aznable Char]

Venturisection wrote...

xMellowhype wrote...

Wouldn't this be common? Millions people bought MW3 in the first week but since everyone has it the number is bound to go down in week 3.

If you can show this is truly unprecedented in the industry then it means a lot.

3.5 Mill shipped doesn't mean 3.5 mill sold as theres probably still loads on shelves. What I mean is there are 3.5 million copies available in the channel at stores.

the amazon analysis seems to support the idea that a lot of these copies are not moving in inventory which means that the word of mouth effect is significant .

[Grudge_NL]

Ofcourse there wil be drops in sales after a few days. Derp faces, there arent unlimited customers.

Modifié par Grudge_NL, 07 avril 2012 - 10:16 .

[Snout]

Big price drops in UK stores btw. The inevitable 'special offers' are just around the corner.

[Optimus J]

You know what gives me the most pleasure? is that Titles with EA brand are going to receive smaller and smaller orders from retailers. Their incoming will suffer a lot. And DLCs will not sell enough to support this loss.

Right now I'm wondering how many XBOX players still spending their points in packages for multiplayer. I bet it's a fraction of the intended number, hence the resurgence pack is being delivered free.

[Aznable Char]

Grudge_NL wrote...

Ofcourse there wil be drops in sales after a few days. Derp faces, there arent unlimited customers.

I noted this in the notes on the OP . However , you should compare with how a good 'word of mouth' game gets play as well as what I noted in earlier posts that the PRICE PER UNIT has dropped considerably making the figures a lot lower than one would think . Even by 20% .

Compare that with other triple A titles and you see a staggering comparison .

[Kilshrek]

I'd like to put total sales by week, side by side with the one title's sales Bioware was gunning for. CoD.

I'd even compare it to SC 2, what other AAA franchise releases have been launched within the last year? That should give us a rough idea of how well or poorly ME 3 is doing in comparison to existing franchises as well.

And then Diablo 3 comes out and sells 25 million copies. And people will probably sing its praises from every rooftop. And other developers will be left to rue what could have been.

[cutegigi]

ah yes... diablo 3. I mah have to pre-ordered it just out of spite to EA

[Kilshrek]

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

[Aznable Char]

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

It's true , though to be fair it's not like I ever played the Diablo series for intense story driven lore or things like that , but rather for the mind crushing dungeon crawling and the crazy OPness of pairing up a necromancer's minions with a paladin's thorns .

In fact , I would even say that Blizzard and their overlords over-emphasized the story over gameplay in SCII which is why i'd say it wasn't as much of a cult hit as SCBW because SCBW was all about the ridiculously honed mechanics .

In other words , BioWare's inability to maintain their own genre with this travesty of an ending really puts into doubt for me how much I'd want to invest anything if at all into their continued efforts at shooting themselves in the liver .

[cutegigi]

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

for today.... even activision is better than EA.

[Johanna]

BioWare really needs to free themselves from EA.

I love you guys, but you've screwed the pooch on this one.

I have personally prevented 3 sales of ME3, and caused 3 TOR accounts to be cancelled. I hate hurting you guys. I hate it. But it's the only way to get you, a company, to listen to me, a consumer.

[MaximizedAction]

cutegigi wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

for today.... even activision is better than EA.

That kind of thinking will (or might have already) lead to a cartel behavior similar to that of oil and gas companies.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 avril 2012 - 11:59 .

[nitefyre410]

pants witch wrote...

BioWare really needs to free themselves from EA.

I love you guys, but you've screwed the pooch on this one.

I have personally prevented 3 sales of ME3, and caused 3 TOR accounts to be cancelled. I hate hurting you guys. I hate it. But it's the only way to get you, a company, to listen to me, a consumer.

 

They not going to free themselves... because they don't want to free themselves... 

Funny thing about  dEAvil is that it can't get you do something that you, yourself don''t want to do already. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 07 avril 2012 - 12:03 .

[Grimskull89]

There is something troubling about the data you present OP, the prices that are present in your OP are not reflective of what Amazon is selling ME3 at, but are actually independent listings of people selling thru Amazon.

Amazon has however lowered the price on the console versions, and they are currently $49.99, where as the PC version they are selling at the original price.

Word of mouth certainly seems to have influenced independent sellers.

[FedericoV]

cutegigi wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

for today.... even activision is better than EA.

Why don't spend your money to finance some indie Kickstarter project instead?

I mean, Diablo 3 has auctions with real money. If you support that game, you support the general idea.

[alienatedflea]

Aznable Char wrote...

source: 
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/ 

USA retail figures
Does not include returns
Does not include online sales

week 1
xbox 1066947
ps3 289941
pc 114492
--
1471380

week 2
xbox 200521
ps3 57596
pc 24580
--
282697
80.8% drop

week 3
xbox 94675
ps3 28249
pc (ranked 33rd no figure given)
--
122924
56.5% drop

week 4
xbox 57894
ps3 15671
pc ranked 696 no data
--
73565

helpful to compare with: 
http://www.escapistm...gon-Age-2-Sales 


Other relevant information:

Amazon hard copy prices
of ME3 seem to be sinking faster than a lead weight in water. Atm, on 
Amazon ME3 PC is at 31.75, XB is at 40.75, and PS3 is at 39.75. Those 
are huge dives for their respective $59.99 price tags 4 weeks ago. Price
drops like this are usually viewed as significant given they indicate 
retail sales are slowing significantly and that distributors are more 
interested in dumping inventory than weathering the storm. I’m guessing 
that retailers at this point are figuring that new customers at best 
won’t be rushing out to purchase the game until the fix in June so until
then ME3 is just a downgraded/incomplete product. 

^ from 
http://social.biowar.../index/11121763 


WEEK 4 OBSERVATIONS: Trend is downward as predicted . Week 3 observations still hold for now . Agree with quoted section above .

WEEK 3 OBSERVATIONS observations on my part:

the decrease in initial sales was staggering , but not unexpected considering the huge amount of pre-order .
The numbers do show a dip in percentage larger than even DA2
week 3 was when the dip for DA:O occurred as well before word of mouth brought it to the rise

ME3 still has a large total number sold , however , the dent is still evident .
This means , at least in my interpretation , that BioWare has the money since most people pre-ordered and have more than likely recooperated , with profit , their particular sale .

I personally am offended if they run with the money and not address the dislike for the ending . Pro-enders will point to this as "who cares if the percentage is dropping , it's still selling more than DA2" . Whether or not it will sell as many as DA:O which did not benefit from the hype of being the end of a series , is yet to be seen .

Let's not also forget the massive ad campaign that cost them a lot of money .

This also doesn't include return sales which would be interesting to see and only counts units bought so many could have also been bought second hand .

The true economic impact of this can only be seen by BioWare as they are receiving the money being put in . As much as any side may wish to spin the following data , BioWare will know the truth including what percentage they expect to lose in DLC and new game money (imagine , are you really sure that SO many people will pre-order from BioWare again ?) . This is why I personally suspect they'll address the ending in order to attempt to recover consumer confidence . We'll have to see whether or not they're successful .

As much as pro-enders might say that they're winning a victory despite cataclysmic drop in percentage value , their victory is at the cost of future BioWare capital . Their schadenfreude is misplaced considering a better ending will not affect them at all . They can simply refuse to download the DLC if they like the ending so much . Which is exactly why I find their opposition to helping the Retake individuals have a better resolution to be misguided and unfortunate . We are not enemies , but it will hurt BioWare if this initiative does not convince them that they cannot afford to lose a "minority" of avid fans who also referred them to others .

If pro-enders are claiming a victory right now , it will further alienate the Retakers who are already betrayed by this horror of an ending , won't be buying DLCs , won't be pre-ordering , and will be forever suspicious of BioWare's tactics . Help us ensure a quality product from release by banding together on this issue .

Now what does this have to do with the story or campaign of Mass Effect 3? STOP CLITTERING THESE FORUMS WITH THIS CRAP!!! Thanks, have a good day!

[Ridwan]

cutegigi wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

for today.... even activision is better than EA.

ACTIVISION DOES NOT OWN BLIZZARD!

Sorry for the caps, but I wanted to make my point across. Why do so many still believe this?

Vivendi owns Blizzard and Blizzard got merged with Activision, but they act as two seperate entities.

If Kotick came to Blizzard and demanded that Blizzard charge players money for respeccing, Blizzard can tell him to take a hike, and there wouldn't be a thing Kotick can do about it.

[PSUHammer]

RE: OP,

THIS is how you tell developers and publishers that you dislike their products and practices. Not whining on internet forums and making ridiculous demands.

Speak with your wallets and spread the word. Yay Capitalism!

[cutegigi]

FedericoV wrote...

cutegigi wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

for today.... even activision is better than EA.

Why don't spend your money to finance some indie Kickstarter project instead?

I mean, Diablo 3 has auctions with real money. If you support that game, you support the general idea.

because initally i want to be part og the sales number that EA and Bioware will be having wet dream of.
But you are right.
will see if anything in kickstarter interest me.

[Johanna]

nitefyre410 wrote...

pants witch wrote...

BioWare really needs to free themselves from EA.

I love you guys, but you've screwed the pooch on this one.

I have personally prevented 3 sales of ME3, and caused 3 TOR accounts to be cancelled. I hate hurting you guys. I hate it. But it's the only way to get you, a company, to listen to me, a consumer.

 

They not going to free themselves... because they don't want to free themselves... 

Funny thing about  dEAvil is that it can't get you do something that you, yourself don''t want to do already. 

I bet they do, though.  If you look around there's a lot of information from EA employees who are... ah... mad.  I mean, real mad.

[Deventh]

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

At least they make good games with good endings and actually listen to fans. Can't wait for Diablo 3 so i can get my mind off ME3.

[Johanna]

Deventh wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

Sadly, Diablo 3 is published by EA's significant other in the douche department. So... I'm SOL.

At least they make good games with good endings and actually listen to fans. Can't wait for Diablo 3 so i can get my mind off ME3.

Same.  I was watching Angry Joe play through the character classes and drooling like crazy.  I love the way the colors, while incredibly beautiful, seem to really be there to make the darkness even deeper and more frightening.

AHHH can't wait