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[txmn1016]

corkey sweet wrote...

word of mouth has a lot of power. Look how word of mouth ultimately destroyed DA2. it will eventually kill ME3 as well. word of mouth can drastically decrease a games sales

I can attest to this, because I specifically did not buy DA2 because of the fan response.

[Atomsk Rex Pirata]

Staying power is what will matter. Call of duty saw a big dropoff (-80%) in the first couple weeks, but after that it stabilized and on XBOX alone they continued to sell between 300,000 and 500,000 every week for the next five weeks.

If sales continue to drop, that's when an impact will be visible.

[Aznable Char]

devSin wrote...

Aznable Char wrote...

ME3 still has a large total number sold , however , the dent is still evident .
This means , at least in my interpretation , that BioWare has the money since most people pre-ordered and have more than likely recooperated , with profit , their particular sale .

A few points.

The site that states these figures is notoriously unreliable. I won't argue against using it to guess at trends, but the exact figures are useless. In particular, digital sales render the PC numbers completely irrelevant.

EA shipped 3.5 million units worldwide. They want to sell this amount of retail product (in the perfect scenario, they'd already be shipping more out).

EA does not get the full retail price of a retail sale. They sell to retailers at a much lower price, and the rest is profit for the retailer.

I agree , it's why I added in my notations to this that the only ones who truly know the economic hit of this title are the ones in those board rooms which is why I predict they will do something to address this situation . 

[AlexXIV]

I don't really want to see ME3 destroyed (at least not more than Bioware already did). But I hope it hurts Bioware enough to realize that they made a big mistake with this ending. Mind you if in the first month they sell 1 mio less than expected then that's like 50-60 million dollars. If this doesn't hurt than I don't know what.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 29 mars 2012 - 01:18 .

[DranakShadow]

J717 wrote...

It pains me to say it, but if BioWare doesn't fix the ending and they suffer a meteoric fall from grace post-ME3 - I would not feel the least bit sorry for them. In fact...it would be karma.

People actually pay attention to metacritic?
Either way, if bioware looses too much money on it, there wont be enough even to add clarity to the endings, let alone adding new ones.

[Plasma Prestige]

 If these drops in sales over the past few weeks are statistically significant (i.e., are the sales percentages of other games that are highly anticipated but do not suffer from controversy similarly effected in sales after the initial week?), then our voice has made a difference. 

[deimosmasque]

Oh and for context

BF3 dropped 68% US sales 2nd week, 69.1% 3rd week

GoW3 dropped 80% 2nd week and 69.1% 3rd week

MW3 dropped 83.7% 2nd week and 26.1% 3rd week

Skyrim dropped 74.3% 2nd week and 29.3% 3rd week

-Edit-

Average of 2nd week drop is 76.5%

Average of 3rd week drop is 48.4%

Modifié par deimosmasque, 29 mars 2012 - 01:24 .

[xMellowhype]

Atomsk Rex Pirata wrote...

Staying power is what will matter. Call of duty saw a big dropoff (-80%) in the first couple weeks, but after that it stabilized and on XBOX alone they continued to sell between 300,000 and 500,000 every week for the next five weeks.

If sales continue to drop, that's when an impact will be visible.

No non shooters can compete with Call of Duty.  We should comapre the sales to Skyrim and see what the trends are and if it's actually hurting EA.

In their first week they got 7 million sales. Anyone got what week 2 and 3 is for them?

[redundant567]

XBOX Sales Only [Global - Vgchartz for what it's worth]

ME3
Week 1: 1,631,609; Week 2: 338,672 [-79.2%]

Skyrim
Week 1: 1,859,285; Week 2: 564,506 [-69.6%]; Week 3: 409,620 [-27.4%]

CoD MW3
Week 1: 7,501,613; Week 2: 1,117,633 [-85.1%]; Week 3: 874,421 [-21.8%]

ME2
Week 1: 874,373; Week 2: 242,740 [-72.2%]; Week 3: 137,882 [-43.2%]

It seems like a fairly comparable drop to recent titles and even ME2. I don't think these are clearly going to show anything in relation to the success of ME3 at the moment. The longevity of sales is way more important.

Modifié par redundant567, 29 mars 2012 - 01:36 .

[Monochrome Wench]

In Week 3 ME3 has still managed higher sales than some titles do in the entire first month.

[die-yng]

Even if they rake in great sale figures altogether, an unusually large drop is more than just a hint that the outrage over the ending is affecting this.

BW ,might not have to worry about the numbers of ME3 sold, but at this moment I'd start to worry for my DLC's and for my next game, if I were in their shoes,.

[Aznable Char]

die-yng wrote...

Even if they rake in great sale figures altogether, an unusually large drop is more than just a hint that the outrage over the ending is affecting this.

BW ,might not have to worry about the numbers of ME3 sold, but at this moment I'd start to worry for my DLC's and for my next game, if I were in their shoes,.

Absolutely . As I said in the notes , BioWare knows more than anyone the exact extent of this .

If we compare on the same site the USA figures for skyrim , ME3 is being outperformed

http://www.vgchartz....s-v-skyrim/USA/ 

Both in the weekly by third week in total units as well as you'll notice just as I was talking about in word-of-mouth effect how sales increased in the subsequent weeks (this same thing happened in DAO) which is why I said that although these figures are interesting now , the turning point trend is about week 3 and we'll see if ME3 compares with other titles in being able to stabilize or grow on their sales figures .

[shepskisaac]

blackangel209 wrote...

I doubt MW3's sales went down 90% in 2 weeks.

Went down 87% in UK in week 2

Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 mars 2012 - 01:37 .

[kleindropper]

Lmaoboat wrote...

What is it compared to ME2? Because I would imagine most games drop off after the initial purchases.

ME2 drop offs were 72% and 43% respectively

[M12311]

I am not sure the Skyrim and DAO comparison as relevant in this case. They both happened during the holiday season, and I wonder if the week3+ increase has to do more with Christmas sales rather than word of mouth.

However, this could make the ME3 post week 3 dropoff even more pronouced.

Any mid year release comparisons we could look at, which are not skewed by the Christmas sales peak?

[CmdrStJean]

You know, I'm not sure if this means anything but I could have sworn earlier today that I saw ME3 for the Xbox on Amazon for about 46 bucks or thereabouts and I remember thinking "wow, it's actually gone down more than Skyrim has less than a month." When I checked back tonight however the price was up to around 52 dollars. I suppose I could have been temporarily insane, but even an 8 dollar discount within a 30 day period seems pretty big to me. I wonder if that counts as any sort of commentary regarding how things are going?

[kleindropper]

I'm wondering if other titles have dropped 33% in price in 3 weeks as well? You can get a new ME3 for $40 or less right now.

[M12311]

kleindropper wrote...

I'm wondering if other titles have dropped 33% in price in 3 weeks as well? You can get a new ME3 for $40 or less right now.

Yes that is an interesting question as well.

[askanec]

VGchartz just makes up figures based on guesstimation.

It's sad only a few people in the thread look into the validity of the "statistics".It's kinda laughable when I think that some people would question everything about ME3, but blindly agree with anything else that drops by.

[heart again]

CmdrStJean wrote...

You know, I'm not sure if this means anything but I could have sworn earlier today that I saw ME3 for the Xbox on Amazon for about 46 bucks or thereabouts and I remember thinking "wow, it's actually gone down more than Skyrim has less than a month." When I checked back tonight however the price was up to around 52 dollars. I suppose I could have been temporarily insane, but even an 8 dollar discount within a 30 day period seems pretty big to me. I wonder if that counts as any sort of commentary regarding how things are going?

I doubt you were temporarily insane, amazon is contstantly changing prices like that.

[tamperous]

Really the key is what happens after PAX, if a lot of early buyers just say enough I'm done with it, and they flood the used market then there will be no staying power in new sales.

[Naltair]

So pretty much it is selling well.

[Valo_Soren]

So pretty much it is selling well and their sales aren't being hurt at all, is what you're saying, Dragon Age 2 still made a lot of money, it wasn't a financial failure, it was a critical failure to the fact that most of its reviews where 7's and 8's where Mass Effect 3 has 75 perfect scores. DA2 sold a million copies in its first few weeks which is why we got to down load Mass Effect 2 for free on PC. I think you're going about this the wrong way to be honest.

[Valo_Soren]

Say what you will think what you will but selling near 2 million copies in your first 3 weeks is not a failure it's actually a good thing.