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[Naltair]

Does Origin share their retail numbers?

[ZodiEmish]

Persephone wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...

Persephone wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Comguard2 wrote...

Considering the huge marketing campaign this must be an absolute disappointment for EA/Bioware.

Words to mouth has destroyed the leg of ME3. The fans bought in the first week, and they told others not to do so. If this isn't an example of how word to mouth publicity influences game sales show me something better.

Keep dreaming. They sold 3+ million copies.

ME3 is still selling fine, no matter the overblown sabotage by the "fanbase".

 When will people get their facts straight...

Let me explain something to you... there is something different between units shipped and units sold.

Units shipped are the copies that go out to stores. these are the copies on shelves but have not been sold...

Units sold is how many of the units shipped that were sold to cutomsers.


Mass Effect 3 shipped 3.5 million copies to stores, and sold 800,000 the first day. Since then they have sold a total of about 1.5 million copies. not 3.5 million...

Please people GOOGLE SEARCH your facts before you post. PLEASE..

Here let me do that for you all.

It sold 2+ million copies in the US alone. Add sales from Europe and Asia. Add digital sales. Easily 3+million.

Don't need your explanation, I actually work in Sales, thank you.

If you really did work in Sales then you would understand the difference between units sold and units shipped. 3.5 million were shipped world wide. That was not sold. That was shipped. There is a major difference.

also I don't know where you are getting your numbers, but it doesn't matter if you work in sales or not. You don't have any proof, and the only proof that support what you said supports the idea that you misunderstood the data that was released.

I never mentioned 3.5 million. Anywhere.

Proof? Simple logic. will do.

There will be no definite numbers though until Bioware shares them.

No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

[FedericoV]

ZodiEmish wrote...
lol serves you right for being behind in the world. I hope you enjoy your 10,000 Floppy disks

I kid of course.. but that would be awesome to see.... 10,000 Mass Effect 3 floppys. ( of course it would be just a gag. )

For a game like ME3 you need 10'000 floppys only for one copy of the game .

Btw, no worries: kidding is good!

[Persephone]

Comguard2 wrote...

@Persephone
"I never mentioned 3.5 million. Anywhere."

"It sold 2+ million copies in the US alone. Add sales from Europe and Asia. Add digital sales. Easily 3+million."

"There will be no definite numbers though until Bioware shares them."

So you say that there are no definite numbers, but are definitely sure that you are right and others are wrong...

They are wrong in assuming it failed, yes.

And 3+ million is a fair estimate.

[Lukanp]

I guess the next few weeks will show us exacly how much harm the endings have realy done.

Modifié par Lukanp, 29 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[Persephone]

ZodiEmish wrote...

No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

So estimates are useless?

Ok, then this entire thread, based on unofficial figures just became pointless.

Oh, wait.......

[Naltair]

ZodiEmish wrote...
No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

I already posted a link that says ME3 sold 1.85 million copies in the first week.

[Persephone]

Lukanp wrote...

So much for the "vocal minority" misconception.

These estimates have nothing to do with the "cause" whatsoever.

[ZodiEmish]

Naltair wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...
No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

I already posted a link that says ME3 sold 1.85 million copies in the first week.

Allow me to go check that link..

[Persephone]

Naltair wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...
No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

I already posted a link that says ME3 sold 1.85 million copies in the first week.

In the US ALONE, mind you.

[ZodiEmish]

Persephone wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...

No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

So estimates are useless?

Ok, then this entire thread, based on unofficial figures just became pointless.

Oh, wait.......

Oh wait what? I said the same thing. Everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt... inculding this thread. speculations are okay, but should not be pushed around as fact. they are only opinion. So I fail to see what the gloating Oh Wait was seeing that I agree that it is pointless if it isn't official.

[Persephone]

ZodiEmish wrote...

Persephone wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...

No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

So estimates are useless?

Ok, then this entire thread, based on unofficial figures just became pointless.

Oh, wait.......

Oh wait what? I said the same thing. Everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt... inculding this thread. speculations are okay, but should not be pushed around as fact. they are only opinion. So I fail to see what the gloating Oh Wait was seeing that I agree that it is pointless if it isn't official.

Estimates make sense to a certain point. I agree that anything but official numbers aren't solid proof. 

[Peete]

corkey sweet wrote...

word of mouth has a lot of power. Look how word of mouth ultimately destroyed DA2. it will eventually kill ME3 as well. word of mouth can drastically decrease a games sales

If it kille ME3 after it has made a huge profit.... Who cares?

CIV 1 is dead, dosent mean it wasn't a succes.

[FedericoV]

Helmschmied wrote...


I love BioWare, but I hate what they've become.

I do not want Bioware to fail but I can understand the sentiment. Bioware is still full of talented persons who are just geeks like us. Unfortunately who is pulling the string is changing the friedly face of "our" beloved company and turning them in to some kind of corporation who would do anything to squeeze money from us. That's a still a trend, but a worrysome one and to deny the existence of that trend is not being a fan by any mean.

We should try to protect Bioware from EA as much as we can.

Modifié par FedericoV, 29 mars 2012 - 06:44 .

[dkear1]

According to VGC the total number sold to date of all versions is 2,944,144
Link: http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/Global/

Modifié par dkear1, 29 mars 2012 - 06:46 .

[Naltair]

ZodiEmish wrote...
Allow me to go check that link..

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250017/mass-effect-3-sells-185-million-units-first-week/ 

For convenience.

[ZodiEmish]

ZodiEmish wrote...

Naltair wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...
No.. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. It is not simple logic. Your pulling out fake inaccurate numbers to support your opinion. that is not logic. that is just making numbers up..  Offical sources are important. Even the link in this thread can only be taken with a grain of salt.


the only offical numbers we have is 3.5 million units shipped, and 890,000 sold. ( One of the many souces ) Those are the only offical numbers we have. anything else is inaccurate and speculation. Simple as that.

I already posted a link that says ME3 sold 1.85 million copies in the first week.

Allow me to go check that link..

 First off. sorry about missing your link. multi tasking is a pain. ( try posting on the BSN, and playing skyrim at the same time.. Yeah I am just that awesome.  o-Z-<  ) that ofcouse was a job..

But I am going to have to stick by the same thing I said. even for the link in the Opening Post. You have to take these numbers with a grain of salt. The link you linked me has no source. it is not an official press release from Bioware or EA, and so it has to be taken as a guess or and estimate.  Before anything can be taken as fact you need to know how they get their numbers. It's important for info to be a fact, and not an estimate if your going to state it as a fact.

So while that is a good article, and I hope it is true too. I don't want mass effect 3 to fail. I want it to do go, and I want them to fix the ending. But until I know their sources, or if Bioware comes out and says that it is true. It has to be taken with a grain of salt.

[hoorayforicecream]

Comguard2 wrote...

@hoorayforicecream

We compared it in this very thread with DA2. But lets take a look at other games (I'll take the numbers from vgchartz for ease of comparison):

Mass Effect 2 Xbox: -72% after week 1, - 43% after week 2.
Skyrim Xbox: - 70% after week 1, - 30 after week 2
Fallout 3: - 65% after week 1, - 26 after week 2
Witcher 2 PC: -61% after week 1, - 43 after week 2.

I could collect more examples. Now, why are the numbers of ME3 worse, although the marketing campaign was so large?

I'd actually say that it seems like people just aren't buying as many games overall. Mass Effect 3 maintained the #1 sales spot two weeks in a row, whereas none of the othe games you've listed has been able to do so. This suggests to me that the overall market is depressed and buying fewer games in general, rather than some failing specific to ME3. If it were a failing specific to ME3, it most likely would have been unseated by another game.

[MrnDpty161]

I would like to point out that it just wasn't a meager " 5 " minutes. It was much more than that.

[Naltair]

ZodiEmish wrote...
 First off. sorry about missing your link. multi tasking is a pain. ( try posting on the BSN, and playing skyrim at the same time.. Yeah I am just that awesome.  o-Z-<  ) that ofcouse was a job..

But I am going to have to stick by the same thing I said. even for the link in the Opening Post. You have to take these numbers with a grain of salt. The link you linked me has no source. it is not an official press release from Bioware or EA, and so it has to be taken as a guess or and estimate.  Before anything can be taken as fact you need to know how they get their numbers. It's important for info to be a fact, and not an estimate if your going to state it as a fact.

So while that is a good article, and I hope it is true too. I don't want mass effect 3 to fail. I want it to do go, and I want them to fix the ending. But until I know their sources, or if Bioware comes out and says that it is true. It has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Of course information without context and sources is not overly compelling but the evidence is there to support the claim that ME3 is not tanking.

Basically all evidence points to the conclusion that the game is selling as well as a game of it's type should be selling.  It might be down some due to word of mouth, but it seems to be selling faster than it's predecessors.

[Persephone]

dkear1 wrote...

According to VGC the total number sold to date of all versions is 2,944,144
Link: http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/Global/

NOT including DIGITAL copies however.

Still, what are their sources?

[AtreiyaN7]

cyric085 wrote...

good very good

hope their next project fails so hard that ea will just bury them alive

god i miss the old bioware, new bioware just needs to die already

Pathetic.

[Captain Arty]

FedericoV wrote...

Helmschmied wrote...


I love BioWare, but I hate what they've become.

I do not want Bioware to fail but I can understand the sentiment. Bioware is still full of talented persons who are just geeks like us. Unfortunately who is pulling the string is changing the friedly face of "our" beloved company and turning them in to some kind of corporation who would do anything to squeeze money from us. That's a still a trend, but a worrysome one and to deny the existence of that trend is not being a fan by any mean.

We should try to protect Bioware from EA as much as we can.

I'll even defend Bioware a little further.  I think they're talented geeks like us that just made a really bad artistic and production choice. They have the opportunity to fix it, and I hope they will.

I AM worried that they're living in denial, that they are clinging to the delusion that their ending was good and that the fans are just stupid kids.  They constantly cite 75 perfect critic scores in defense, but most of those critics didn't finish the game, and some of them have reversed or pulled their reviews after finishing it.

If you spent years working on something near and dear to your heart, and you release it to great critical appeal and catastrophic fan response, the defensve, human instinct is to retreat to the critics. "See, the smart professional people say the game is great! We must be right! All that work we put into it can't be for nothing!"

I hope they'll be reflective, that their inner geeks will think objectively, and that they'll take a long editorial look at that epic disaster of an ending. They still have the opportunity to fix it.

[Naltair]

I think there is a case where both the critics and the fans can both be right and wrong.

This is the problem with feedback from the masses, it can be conflicted.

[RedShft]

Aznable Char wrote...
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Does not include online sales
...

So this isn't even anywhere near accurate for a general view of retail sales considering how strong and important digital salese are on the PC.