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[Bantz]

John, do you work on DA? If you're working on DA3 please make it awesome, and don't let them give us an ending where we can either. A) Merge darkspawn and humans but destroy all elves, Control all darkspawn but destroy all elves, or C) Destroy all darkspawn but kill the elves and dwarfs.

[Stanley Woo]

Paparob wrote...

I was actually building towards that. Well I hope you don't mind me asking but did you? Just as one fan to another, I'm curious to see if you picked the game up recently or if you've been following the series for a while.

Edit: Off topic slightly but how is that a hard question? lol Also feel free to jump in with questions if you have them, its not like I'm the designated "Questioner of Stanley Woo" 

I have not played the series from start to finish, though I worked on Mass effect 2.

[Dragoonlordz]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

@masseffect's tweet (WARNING, FOUL LANGUAGE) - and for the record, they've continued to play buddybuddy with this guy:

http://www.martnet.c.../finchlynch.jpg

Well there you have it, definitive proof that all Retake detractors are vulgar and combatant.

No you have one person not all. Sarcasm is also hard to tell with the written word vs spoken just heads up if that is what you were doing. Also you quoted the wrong person.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[txmn1016]

Unrelated to the OP, but can I just say how much I love the mods right now? Thanks for keeping people level headed. You make the BSN a happy place to be.

[Stokie Stallion]

influence is more powerful than most people realise

Think of brand names and why they were the first to come to your head

Want something Scream cry attack for it

simple really

[alx119]

John Epler wrote...

I don't think name calling and personal attacks help anyone's case, regardless of who they are and who they're referring to. That's as much of a statement as you'll get from me on any articles related to any of this, sorry. It's not really my place - I'm not on the ME team. Now, if you want my opinion on DA related stuff... well, I can't say much there, either. Whoops.

Why aren't you on the ME team? You are a pretty cool guy to talk with. 

[ShepnTali]

Any comment on cute, little adorable blue children?

[Mbednar]

Geneaux486 wrote...

That's certainly... imaginative.

Not really, just going by the cards the endings lay on the table.

Good job ignoring the entire paragraph i wrote out becuase you couldn't muster up a proper repsonse.  You aren't debating, you are trolling, thus you should be ignored.

I didn't read your post because you opened with how you were ignoring something that's clearly shown in the game.  There's no point in arguing with someone who does that.

And now you are trolling one another.

Will you please stop bickering with each other.

Obviously you both choose to disagree.  Fighting won't change that.  So walk away.

It gets annoying when both people end up resorting to trolling one another >,<

[kyg_20X6]

Wasn't this originally about a congratulatory thread about our efforts and now it's devolved into a thread about how bad we are? Due in no small part to the timely intervention of BW's PR team.

Probably just a coincidence.

[WildcardCharlie]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

@masseffect's tweet (WARNING, FOUL LANGUAGE) - and for the record, they've continued to play buddybuddy with this guy:

http://www.martnet.c.../finchlynch.jpg

Well there you have it, definitive proof that all Retake detractors are vulgar and combatant.

No you have one person not all. Sarcasm is also hard to tell with the written word vs spoken just heads up if that is what you were doing. Also you misqouted the wrong person.

I was applying the "let's smear all of Retake based on the minority" logic used by some here.

[Exeider]

Paparob wrote...

Exeider wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Paparob wrote...

Thanks for responding to my questions Stanley, I appreciate it. Our of curosity, and I mean nothing by this question but I was wondering did you play Mass Effect 3 yourself?

I was moved to the franchise a couple of weeks ago and have been playing various aspects of it every day since. Very impressive.

@Paparob

no, ask the hard question. "Stanley, Have you played the mass effect series from start to finish?" 

-AE

I was actually building towards that. Well I hope you don't mind me asking but did you? Just as one fan to another, I'm curious to see if you picked the game up recently or if you've been following the series for a while.

Edit: Off topic slightly but how is that a hard question? lol Also feel free to jump in with questions if you have them, its not like I'm the designated "Questioner of Stanley Woo" 

by hard, i mean to the point, not dancing around the 'real' question
-AE

[Gormane01]

Just figure it's worth mentioning a thanks to Mr Woo & Epler for speaking to the community so much. Even if you can't tell us what we want to hear it's good to just hear something

P.S.I don't include the almost automated response of the twitter account as talking to us, I'm pretty sure it's actually Glyph just screwing with us.

[commander_shepard]

Stanley Woo wrote...

though it may seem contrary, this is a testament to how much our game has affected our fans and how much they care about our game and the franchise, and we can't (and don't) blame them for that.

Totally agree with this. If anything, people are mostly disappointed because a lot of us (me included) are really invested in the story and it hurt a lot of us to see the game end like this. Is it just a game? Yes. I do think though that what has happened here demonstrates that games are a more powerful art form than some people seem to think.

I haven't given up yet as I'm really hoping that the team that brought us Jade Empire, KotOR and the Mass Effect trilogy (minus the last ~15 minutes) is going to leave a legion of frustrated, pissed-off fans hanging. That being said, I wouldn't mind if you flew me to Edmonton and showed me what you guys are working on to assuage me.

EDIT: Slightly irrelevant. To me, the most moving moment to date in the Mass Effect trilogy was having Commander Shepard order the Alliance fleet to save the council. Watching this race of upstarts rushing to the aid of the galaxy's most powerful was a pretty moving moment (the soundtrack didn't hurt there)

Modifié par commander_shepard, 29 mars 2012 - 03:44 .

[WildcardCharlie]

Opsrbest wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...


@masseffect's tweet (WARNING, FOUL LANGUAGE) - and for the record, they've continued to play buddybuddy with this guy:

http://www.martnet.c.../finchlynch.jpg

Well there you have it, definitive proof that all Retake detractors are vulgar and combatant.

On the same lines you could go through just about every retaker thread on this forum and find the same thing. So your point is moot.

Really? Go and find me one instance of a Retaker using that kind of language here.

I'll wait.

[T-Zero]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Paparob wrote...

I was actually building towards that. Well I hope you don't mind me asking but did you? Just as one fan to another, I'm curious to see if you picked the game up recently or if you've been following the series for a while.

Edit: Off topic slightly but how is that a hard question? lol Also feel free to jump in with questions if you have them, its not like I'm the designated "Questioner of Stanley Woo" 

I have not played the series from start to finish, though I worked on Mass effect 2.

Mass Effect 2 was awesome!  Thank you for it

[Bantz]

txmn1016 wrote...

Unrelated to the OP, but can I just say how much I love the mods right now? Thanks for keeping people level headed. You make the BSN a happy place to be.

agreed, wish we'd had this kind of back and forth talks before, probably would have saved these poor guys some of those hatefilled PM"s.

[Bedevil123]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Paparob wrote...

I was actually building towards that. Well I hope you don't mind me asking but did you? Just as one fan to another, I'm curious to see if you picked the game up recently or if you've been following the series for a while.

Edit: Off topic slightly but how is that a hard question? lol Also feel free to jump in with questions if you have them, its not like I'm the designated "Questioner of Stanley Woo" 

I have not played the series from start to finish, though I worked on Mass effect 2.

really? just out of simple curiosity what did you do work on/in mass effect 2?

EDIT: thank you btw! ME2 was a great game, and your talking to us here on the forums is a very nice sight for sore eyes

Modifié par Bedevil123, 29 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[The Angry One]

ShepnTali wrote...

Any comment on cute, little adorable blue children?

Not artistic enough.

[Stokie Stallion]

Opsrbest wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...


@masseffect's tweet (WARNING, FOUL LANGUAGE) - and for the record, they've continued to play buddybuddy with this guy:

http://www.martnet.c.../finchlynch.jpg

Well there you have it, definitive proof that all Retake detractors are vulgar and combatant.

On the same lines you could go through just about every retaker thread on this forum and find the same thing. So your point is moot.

Lol proud of whoever is behind the @masseffect. not a single fu*k is given, best way to handle kids!

The only way they know to get atttnetion is voilence and abuse once they meet someone that doesnt care they begin to feel hey this isnt working what do i do now? yep they listen

or you can troll always the more better option

[Aznable Char]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...


@masseffect's tweet (WARNING, FOUL LANGUAGE) - and for the record, they've continued to play buddybuddy with this guy:

http://www.martnet.c.../finchlynch.jpg

Well there you have it, definitive proof that all Retake detractors are vulgar and combatant.

BioWare has not defended its loyal fanbase against slanderous and vulgar attacks . And no I'm not saying poor Stan or anyone on this forum but I meant in general .

Not to mention highlighting every post about  "sorry we can't talk to you about how we're going to address your concerns because some people are shouting rudely" is just wagging the dog so that they have a "proper excuse" to continue to ignore the vast vast ultravast majority of us that want answers .

But again , we don't deserve any answers . I'm not saying we do . We don't deserve empathy or even to be on this forum . This is all graciously provided by BioWare .

In the same way that we graciously provide them with our money .

Quid pro quo . If someone pulls out of an agreement , then we can do the same . And it will resound louder when company profits are down and they have to come up with a better strategy with dealing with people and products.

The only way companies understand if a strategy does not work is if it affects profits . No amount of reasoning with representatives will change that . It can facilitate hitting the mark , better , sure ! And that's why I was here for a while looking for ways to tell them what I want out of the DLC , but in the end if they just stonewall , then it's time for the customer to buy their art from a different artist .

If michelangelo refuses to remove the dog feces stuck on teh mona lisa's nose , then go to raphael and buy his stuff instead .

Modifié par Aznable Char, 29 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[VigilancePress]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

John Epler wrote...

I can't talk to specifics, but it is not as easy as saying 'well, people want Y, let's tell them what we're doing!'. I know it can be frustrating, but once again I counsel patience.

Surely there's a middleground between "Let's tell them what we're doing!" and "Your call is very important to us, please hold." You can counsel patience all you'd like, but asking people to wait on hold for a month is just ridiculous...

To be fair, the open letter from Dr. Ray on his blog essentially said "We're working on something." It wasn't definitive what that something is, but he said they were working on an initiative. Does that mean they'll have DLC ready next week? Nope. But it means they're putting their heads together and trying to decide what they can do. Once that decision is made, approved, and the money is allocated, they can start telling us what their plans are.

I did not particularly *like* the wording he used in his letter, as I felt it was 2 parts defensive and 1 part concilliatory, but I can't really expect *more* from them until they figure out what they can do.

From everything I've seen, I genuinely believe they are as surprised and dismayed by our reactions as we were by the ending of the game. Until they settle how and what they intend to do, we can only wait and see.

As far as middle ground goes, there's not much more they can do but repeat "we're going to do something." We've pushed them as far as they can go right now. We just keep the pressure on (politely) and wait for them to "come to the table with an offer."

[John Epler]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Wasn't this originally about a congratulatory thread about our efforts and now it's devolved into a thread about how bad we are? Due in no small part to the timely intervention of BW's PR team.

Probably just a coincidence.

Well, there's that interpretation, or there's the interpretation that, whatever one's opinion on the ending, we can all agree that personal insults and attacks have no place in online discourse. Personally, I'm going with the latter - I'm far more likely to engage with someone who disagrees with me but is polite than someone who agrees with me but is hostile and vulgar. It's somewhat fashionable to quote the Greater Internet.. well, let's say Crapwad Theory, but I don't think that it excuses anything. And, hey, most of the people in the Retake movement? They're good people. They're passionate, sure, and they're unhappy about a particular aspect of ME3, but they're civil and polite. Personally, I'd rather see more of that on the forums.

[KelaSaar]

That's awesome. We haven't let you down yet Marauder Shields!