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[XXIceColdXX]

Count me in, and I'll say apart from the ending, it's the best game ive ever played.

[BobbyDylan]

Love the Game. Love the sound, love the visuals, love the story, love the charaters, hate the journal, love the emotion, hate the ending.

[Kreid]

I love the rest of the game, not that it is perfect (no Hub worlds or exploration, journal, eavesdropping etc...) but I think the good (combat, art design, cinematics, VA) outweigh the bad by a high margin.

ME3 is one of the ebst games of the generation, period, and would have probably been the best of the series with a better ending and some DLC.

[GreyLycanTrope]

love game, hate ending

[Superkenru]

I totally concur with the majority of people on here. I actually posted a "note" to Bioware on here a couple of day ago (it got no love ) in opposition to all of the venom tossed their way.

Basically, we've all seen Bioware become more commercialized over the past few years. And while it's been a bit disheartening for me personally, BW still manages to come through with amazing stories and engaging characters. Even when they slip up big (looking at you DA2), the experience only drops from truly awesome to still pretty great.

My main reason for hope and trust in BW are the DLC's that were released for DA2 & ME2. In both titles, we they started out with promising ideas, then faded off with a few money grabbers (weapons, new mission, etc), and then finally got the picture and gave us some of the best DLCs to date (Legacy & Mark of the Assassain / Shadow Broker & Stolen Memory).

[Estelindis]

I just read the TV Tropes tearjerker page for Mass Effect 3. It's a great reminder of how many powerful emotional moments the game had. I'm glad I read it. It made the emotions I felt during my playthrough feel more immediate again, restored some of what I'd lost after that ending. Anyway, many of the moments described there were brilliantly written by Bioware and they have every right to be proud of them.

[Steel Dancer]

Absolutely. I can deal with the silly things like the journal, it matters far more that the game feels emotionally true.

Which it does until...yeah, I know, blah blah.

[rgretret]

I love Bioware and appreciate 99% of the game.

[Swisspease]

Loved the game. I laughed and cried while playing. Hated the ending so much that it is not replay able.

[Unknownliquid]

[curdy]

loved 99% of the trilogy

just that 1% overshadows everything...

[rishenko]

I love the rest of the game more than enough to be playing it again, thoroughly, with another character. I'll be making more passes after that.

[Slashice]

My 2 greatest concern about this game is

1) Obviously the ending. And again: not the lack of happy ending but the fact that non of your previous choices matters (as Casey Hudson promised us) and it's completely inconsistent with the story.
2) auto dialogue and the lack of options at the dialogue wheel: seriously who thought this is a good idea? This "callofduty" way is not a way that BioWare should follow, seriously. In ME1 and ME2 I've completely had the feeling that I'm the one who controlling the conversations, now I'm just watching a movie and sometimes determines where should the conversation go. This was a very very, very bad choice from BioWare. For me it is greatly destroyed the role play value of the game.

BUT: the rest of the game is awesome: I like the drama, the story, the graphics, the music, the voice act... actually EVERYTHING! The guys at BioWare really pulled this through and they have my greatest gratitude and respect. Hell if the ending were good I could even forgive my second point since the rest of the story would compensate for it.

So salute guys! Still nothing lost, HOLD THE LINE!

[LittleTito]

The ending, it confuses me to no end - I would like that clarification. But the rest of the game is A1 grade.

[Mad-Hamlet]

Alright, I'll bite.

First. This whole 'Ending' stuff is a misnomer. The material involving the Catalyst, the choices etc is not an ending. I would like to repeat that because it is vaguely important: The Interactive and Conversational events near the end of Mass Effect 3 are NOT an ending.

Better players than I have already gone into great detail regarding how from any standpoint even closely associated with literature or storytelling the 'ending' is a not anything to do with an ending.

There has been much bitter humor heaped upon it, but a great deal of it is viciously accurate; my particular favorite is the Morpheus image with the caption 'One cannot be told how bad the ME3 Ending is, one can only experience it for themselves.'

Funny, but dead-bang accurate.

The events near the end of Mass Effect 3 are no ending- they are a ramshackled, hodge-podge of pseudo-intellectual clap trap swirling around incredibly half-assed technobabble involving futurism and philosophy with half-a-dash of Lady or The Tiger dribbling.

And IT HURT!

I cannot, after forty-years of life, recall anything that hurt me that badly (I have yet to lose a parent so I'm not comparing it to that- honestly give me some credit) but I was emotionally gutted like a fish. I've still, over two weeks later, not fully recovered. Just thinking about leaves me feeling physically ill.

Which in a backwards way is one hell of a compliment to those at Bioware as if they can create something that huge amounts of my conscious and unconscious, my emotions and values, my ideas of right and wrong all get pulled into such a degree that their one colossal monky-twonk moment could damage me so badly- they have some of the most amazing storytelling skills I have ever encountered. (And I'm a literature buff and academe in that area so I know what I'm talking about.)

Their world building skills, the dialogue, the threat generation, the characters and emotional investments in every other game besides the third (And as they well know) an enormous majority of the third itself) are better and beyond anything ever before. I would debate anyone (And happily thrash them through the Earth's core) anyone who would dare claim otherwise. Yes, there are many fine Role Playing Games but I do not find that term acceptable for the Mass Effect Series.

I long ago dubbed it: The(because it's the only one) Alternative Interactive Literary Masterpiece.

To the people at Bioware who worked so hard at Mass Effect understand that I am so deeply impressed and grateful for your work and effort. Know that I could not ask for a better experience and know that you could not have hurt me as terribly as you did with this clusterfrakkery of a disaster if you had not been able to become so incredibly vital and vibrant.

I cannot play Mass Effect 3 again as it is- I cannot. But Goddamn, I'm glad I played the great parts of what was great and hope (And believe) that you will amend the errors and give us The Ending as it is defined in literary circles. (Which you'll note- say very little about speculation being involved)

Many, many of our hopes and dreams go with you- choose your actions well. (No pressure)

Modifié par Mad-Hamlet, 29 mars 2012 - 12:18 .

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[Kalas82]

I love the ME-Series, yes with all the unlogic plotholes ME1-2 and 3 pre ending had.
I have more then respect for every artist, writer, coder and so on who worked on this franchise, i even think this series could be the new generations Star Trek or Star Wars.
Awesome flair, sometimes great, sometimes average dialogue, consitant good gameplay , interesting story, wonderful slik design and story-coherence for the most part.
The best thing is that ME is sci-fi not fantasy again, i can`t see no more dragons and dwarfs, elves or whatever.
It`s polished sci-fi, which works and feels like people realy got invested in it`s creation.
ME3 had incredible awesome moments, like how the Krogan/Salarian/Turian-plots played out or how the Geth-Quarian-conflict played out....with all their diffrent story-strings ..all the possible ways things can go, every plot-line is executed brilliant.


If just the ending wasn`t this bad...i won`t complain bout anything form ME1 to 3 before the beam hits Shepard...but what follows then is so bad that i can understand all the nerdrage..cause i feel it too.
This is in some ways even proof how good ME is, if this was just an average game..would you realy think the nerdrage would reach this massive outburst? People loved this franchise and i think still do, that`s why they are so pissed at the way this turned out, otherwise they would`ve just gone away.

[Superkenru]

Estelindis wrote...

I just read the TV Tropes tearjerker page for Mass Effect 3. It's a great reminder of how many powerful emotional moments the game had. I'm glad I read it. It made the emotions I felt during my playthrough feel more immediate again, restored some of what I'd lost after that ending. Anyway, many of the moments described there were brilliantly written by Bioware and they have every right to be proud of them.

Whoa. GREAT FIND! The ending realy did cause me to overlook so many poignant moments that BW gave us. Thane was hard....Mordin was the hardest. In my first playthrough I jerked back when he snapped at me about him making a mistake, and I gave him the option to make it right. I decided to go back and see what the renegade option was. When my Shep pulled the trigger, I honestly could not move and was sick to my stomach. I put the controller down and walked out of the room for a good half hour.

[JeanLuc Awesome]

 Wish I could but I have more issues with it.

• the horrendous galaxy map
• the journal that never stays organized and opens up on codex
• cop-outs with squadmates who died, replaced with vanilla characters.
• cop-outs with major decisions such as the rachni queen in ME1
• an abundance of auto-dialogue
• side quests boiled down to war assets
• never actually seeing the war assets come to fruition

...It's still a good game but I don't get how critics are giving it such high scores.

I'd say I appreciate about 70% of the game.

[snakeboy86]

Game was great, till the star got confused and told me he was protecting us from synthetics..even though reapers are synthetics...still game was great

[SilencedScream]

JeanLuc Awesome wrote...

 Wish I could but I have more issues with it.

• the horrendous galaxy map
• the journal that never stays organized and opens up on codex
• cop-outs with squadmates who died, replaced with vanilla characters.
• cop-outs with major decisions such as the rachni queen in ME1
• an abundance of auto-dialogue
• side quests boiled down to war assets
• never actually seeing the war assets come to fruition

...It's still a good game but I don't get how critics are giving it such high scores.

I'd say I appreciate about 70% of the game.

This.
I enjoyed the game the first time through (until the ending, of course), but as I make an attempt at a second playthrough, I'm finding more and more issues with the game. My nostalgia glasses are off and I'm really feeling like this is a rushed, lazy product in general.

I was able to play through ME 4-5 times and ME2 6-7 times with no issue, but this second playthrough of ME3 is bugging the hell out of me.

[Shallyah]

I'm possitive that the guys at Bioware know that 90%+ of us are not spoiled kids throwing a tantrum, and that we can appreciate the incredible work they put to shape Mass Effect into the most amazing sci-fi setting of this generation, and possibly of all of them.

It's sometimes hard to say nice words about the things that lived up to standard when one part much like ruins everything, but the work, the effort, and the brilliance is there, and needs to be adressed.

I'm gald I'm seeing lately a few threads like this coming up, because Bioware staff also need some love and motivation to keep working with their usual restless passion into shaping the best experiences in videogames that we've been witness to.

So I sum myself to this sentiment. Thank you Bioware, every one of you. From the CEO to the cleaning lady in Edmonton or wherever else you work into making these great games. A mistake in understanding or foreseeing how the fanbase would perceive the endings of ME3 does not belittle in any way the rest of the great work and effort that has been put into the whole Mass Effect saga.

Keep on it, our trust in you is intact.

[-Colt-]

Posting to completely agree with the topic at hand.

Mass Effect 3 = 99% One of the best games I have ever played.
Its just the ending that has left me in despair.

I still have faith BioWare will put this right.

[Knottedredloc]

Yep! Great game with a terrible ending.