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[Kanon777]

Hexoskin wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
However, it's also very likely that the Catalyst can't control/maintain his own "body" anymore.

I would burst out laughing if they go with that. What a cop out that would be.

Why? It would make sense with the concept that Reapers needed Keepers to maintain the Citadel and control it when needed. Actually, it ALREADY makes sense. In ME1 it is said that Reapers signaling the Citadel doesn't do anything. Only the Keepers can open the arms, the Citadel can't do it "itself". Therefore the conclusion is clear - Catalyst can't control his own body anymore.

But then why would the catalyst be the master of the cycle? The weak follow the powerfull, not the other way around, so i'm pretty sure thousands of machines designed for destruction would have a hard time following what could only be compared to a cripple.

The reapers are programed to listen to the catalyst, so i doubt they would just defy their master. In fact is not impossible that the reapers are VI instead of AI (who make their own decisions)...

[idunhavaname]

Speculators gonna speculate.

[omntt]

I don't want that part to make sense, i want it scrapped.
Anyway admitting it doesn't have any sense it's more then we got before.

[Jackal7713]

Kilshrek wrote...

Which doesn't help anything, means they are stranded on Gilligan's planet, and the ending is 110% bollocks, STILL.

Moving right along.

Buddy they think we are Mugs.

[The Angry One]

omntt wrote...

I don't want that part to make sense, i want it scrapped.
Anyway admitting it doesn't have any sense it's more then we got before.

Call me a pessimist, but the notion that they think that scene will ever make sense worries me.

[Total Biscuit]

IsaacShep wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
However, it's also very likely that the Catalyst can't control/maintain his own "body" anymore.

I would burst out laughing if they go with that. What a cop out that would be.

Why? It would make sense with the concept that Reapers needed Keepers to maintain the Citadel and control it when needed. Actually, it ALREADY makes sense. In ME1 it is said that Reapers signaling the Citadel doesn't do anything. Only the Keepers can open the arms, the Citadel can't do it "itself". Therefore the conclusion is clear - Catalyst can't control his own body anymore.

...that's such an amazingly retarded idea I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it ends up being canon.

I really, really would prefer they leave the Normandy teleporting as simply not making sense, then clarify it to show exactly how the rest of the characters turned coward, abandoned Shepard, and the attempts to activate the Crucible despite it supposedly being the galaxies only hope, then running away from battle and leaving everyone to die. The fact they end up on heavy handed religios symbolism world would just be the crap icing on the dung cake after that.

[Alamar2078]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

If they pull an "it was all a dream" I am done with Bioware games. Not even Bioware can get away with a plot point that poor.

Oddly enough I would feel BETTER if this was a dream than the endings that we saw are the "real" / literal endings.

YMMV.

[Kanon777]

omntt wrote...

I don't want that part to make sense, i want it scrapped.
Anyway admitting it doesn't have any sense it's more then we got before.

Why scrapped? I keep hearing people say that they dont want a happy ending they just want one that makes more sense. Well there you go, they can make those scenes make more sense AND continue with their vision for the end of the story. 

[Jackal7713]

idunhavaname wrote...

Speculators gonna speculate.

Yes and thank you for point this fact out, as if we didn't know that was in fact what we're doing.

[Gtacatalina]

This is becoming one big mess, and I'm really getting fed up with Bioware.

1) I love the Mass Effect franchise but I'm afraid I didn't like the endings in ME3. Why heve you used the 3 option ending when Casey said that there would definitely not be an A B C ending.
Bioware's answers - Artistic Integrity - You don't understand the endings, they're complex - We got 75 full score reviews. We are really hurt you don't like the endings.

2) Why didn't all my decisions throughout the ME games make any difference to the endings?
Bioware's answer - 'War Assets'

3) We can't get 4000 - 5000 EMS on single player only. You said we could get the optimal ending.
Bioware's answer -  'We did not lie'

4) Can we change the FOV -
Bioware's answer -'Get a bigger screen'

5) Will we be able to use game pad controllers for PC? (This was also asked by a few disabled gamers)
Bioware's answer - 'No'

And we are still waiting on a patch for the face imports

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 29 mars 2012 - 04:09 .

[Carlthestrange]

Its simple really - remove Star Child, suddenly game makes a lot more sense. Still doesn't make full sense, but it makes a lot more sense.

[shinobi602]

tobito113 wrote...
The reapers are programed to listen to the catalyst, so i doubt they would just defy their master. In fact is not impossible that the reapers are VI instead of AI (who make their own decisions)...

The Geth were also programmed to listen to the Quarians. EDI was also originally a "rogue VI". What makes you so sure they won't go back and go against their "master" catalyst?

[alberta]

What is abundantly clear BW's tactics backfired all around - ME3 has tanked - prices slashed in half, powerful word of mouth sales have crashed - in my world that's not shooting yourself in the foot that's blowing off both feet.

[GoblinSapper]

Karrie788 wrote...

Somehow that angers me even more.

[The Angry One]

tobito113 wrote...

omntt wrote...

I don't want that part to make sense, i want it scrapped.
Anyway admitting it doesn't have any sense it's more then we got before.

Why scrapped? I keep hearing people say that they dont want a happy ending they just want one that makes more sense. Well there you go, they can make those scenes make more sense AND continue with their vision for the end of the story. 

The hell with that, I want the option for a happy ending.
Also, happy ending or not, the Normandy scene makes no sense, has never made any sense and will never make any sense. It is a worthless, moronic scene that needs to be completely tossed aside.

[shepskisaac]

shinobi602 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...
Not a cop out at all, in fact that would be the reason why the reapers plan didnt work the first time. The proteans could be preparing the citadel to recieve the catalyst when they changed the keepers.

Its a very reasonable answer...

"Why didn't the Catalyst just activate the signal himself if he was on/in the Citadel this whole time?"

"Well, he couldn't use his body...."

"..................."

How old is Catalyst and the Citadel? At least 27 million years old. Not really unrealistic something would 'break' in such a long time.

[Hexoskin]

IsaacShep wrote...

Hexoskin wrote...

But then why would the catalyst be the master of the cycle? The weak follow the powerfull, not the other way around, so i'm pretty sure thousands of machines designed for destruction would have a hard time following what could only be compared to a cripple.

Not if the cripple can still control them. Losing control over his own body doesn't mean his control over the Reapers was hindered in anyway.

"I am sovereign" <-- The "I" implies Independence

"We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness" <-- Again, stating that they're independent "lifeforms" as a fact.

You have to admit that if it ends up being the catalyst that controls them all this would be a big a** plothole that can't be missed O.o

[Kanon777]

Total Biscuit wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
However, it's also very likely that the Catalyst can't control/maintain his own "body" anymore.

I would burst out laughing if they go with that. What a cop out that would be.

Why? It would make sense with the concept that Reapers needed Keepers to maintain the Citadel and control it when needed. Actually, it ALREADY makes sense. In ME1 it is said that Reapers signaling the Citadel doesn't do anything. Only the Keepers can open the arms, the Citadel can't do it "itself". Therefore the conclusion is clear - Catalyst can't control his own body anymore.

...that's such an amazingly retarded idea I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it ends up being canon.

I really, really would prefer they leave the Normandy teleporting as simply not making sense, then clarify it to show exactly how the rest of the characters turned coward, abandoned Shepard, and the attempts to activate the Crucible despite it supposedly being the galaxies only hope, then running away from battle and leaving everyone to die. The fact they end up on heavy handed religios symbolism world would just be the crap icing on the dung cake after that.

Actually it makes sense and refers to the events of ME1, its a reasonable and consistent answer. And you should stop attacking people like that, its not the right way to give contructive criticism...

[Denethar]

alberta wrote...

What is abundantly clear BW's tactics backfired all around - ME3 has tanked - prices slashed in half, powerful word of mouth sales have crashed - in my world that's not shooting yourself in the foot that's blowing off both feet.

Being quiet and hoping things go away isn't a tactic, it's what a company does when they have no idea on how to really fix something.

[meezookeewee]

Gtacatalina wrote...



3) We can't get 4000 - 5000 EMS on single player only. You said we could get the optimal ending.
Biowares answer -  'We did not lie'

If you're playing without importing a character from Mass Effect 2, then yeah, it's not possible.  But if you import a character from ME2, then it's absolutely possible.  I did it.  But then that particular ME2 character was imported from ME1.  So, yes, you can get 4,000 -5,000 EMS on single-player only.

[The Angry One]

IsaacShep wrote...

How old is Catalyst and the Citadel? At least 27 million years old. Not really unrealistic something would 'break' in such a long time.

Yeah if only they had a race of biological automatons that maintained and repaired every part of the station keeping it as new for all that time.

[FoxShadowblade]

I like to.call this covering of the ass.

Seriously BioWare? You are really going to try and clarify the terrible endings? Good luck with that.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Operation cost me money to find out WTF happened...I don't think so EA, I've done enough BS,  I won't pay for an additional or explanatory content of the ending.

[UrgentArchengel]

How intoxicated did Shep get? Lol.

[mrderp27]

why was it in the ending in the first place?