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[The Angry One]

Amagoi wrote...

Ugh, all this vague deflecting talk they do is wearing me down.

Know what I enjoyed before Mass Effect 3 came out? Speculating about the ending.

Know what I don't want to do after I beat Mass Effect 3? SPECULATE ABOUT THE ENDING

Too bad because LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE is now a valid storytelling tactic for a finale that's supposed to provide closure.
Apparently.

[visualkei]

Mojenator12345 wrote...

The present ending cannot be clarified away short of making it an IT dream sequence. Otherwise it must be purged.

Yeah, I believe it is a dream sequence, since one of the endings shows Shepard alive.

And since the ME3 Twitter admitted that only some people "understood" the ending.

Modifié par visualkei, 29 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[MattFini]

Kir_Prime wrote...

So....they knew that it doesn't make any sense and...released it??

Not that this makes everything all better:

But there is the possibility that they ran out of time (thanks, EA!) and had to ship it out as is, with the intention of adding/correcting/expanding down the line, and the ending that's coming is more in line with all of those infamous pre-release expectations.

Game had already been pushed back once.  I'm guessing it wasn't an option for EA to delay it agian?  That's what I think *could've* happened here.  

[UKJackMan]

Its DLC its the escape plan or plan B before the Citadel ending.

[Grimwick]

Great... my take on that comment is that they won't change the ending per se, they'll just make like 5 more cut scenes.
If the new ending comes out with the normandy still stuck on that stupid planet I will be just as disappointed as I was at the ending atm, even if the rest is explained!

[MrAtomica]

Chrishenanigans wrote...

That tweet angered me, actually. The Citadel is this flagship location that serves as a nexus for characters and stories, and Walters just says, "Oh, yeah, they're probably all dead."

I don't know anyone on Earth outside of Anderson, but there are so many connections and emotional investment in the Citadel population for players to explore. Yet it's Earth that's the big deal but the Citadel just gets purged off-screen and without concern? Ugh. 

I absolutely abhorred this tweet when I read it. To not only invalidate every side mission that we have done regarding the Citadel, but have the gall to say "They're PROBABLY all dead?!" What in the hell does that convey besides a profound lack of consideration to the fans? It only adds to the garbage pile of "Speculation for everyone!" that makes this whole ordeal so frustrating.

We had a great many characters who we have come to appreciate that were last seen on the Citadel before it gets taken over. We are never treated to any kind of warning or vision of this impending doom -- all that we get is a suprisingly deadpan statement from Admiral Anderson that "The Citadel has been moved to Earth". Okay, so what does that mean exactly? Is everyone dead? Did they evacuate, or even try and fight back? According to Mac, errybody's ded. Cool. Real classy way to write so many important people out of the story at the very last moment (Aethyta, The Council, Aria, Bailey, the entire goddamn population of civilians that we have spent a large portion of the game supposedly "preparing for war").

If this was intended as a joke, it went right over my head. Sadly, I don't believe tha t it was meant to be humorous. More likely, it was a cop-out. Pure and simple. "I don't have the time or motivation to concoct an explanation for how the Citadel takeover might have gone, so I'll just kill everyone off and leave it at that. This is war, of course, we need more sacrifice to get that point across."

Shameful. I might have been inclined to let it slide if the entire end sequence hadn't felt like a rushed repeat of KotOR 2 (yes, I am aware that Obsidian made KotOR 2, but the lack of details felt reminiscent). There were more questions posed, from the invasion of the Cerberus base to the end of the game, than there were answers to questions we already had.

[Mcfly616]

If this was all planned, has anybody thought that maybe they've had a timelime and an announcement date already set before the game was ever released?....I mean if they mapped out exact dates in which they wanted to make a true announcement then I would credit them for sticking to the plan and not breaking under the pressure from fans.....


Good things come to those that wait....and patience is a virtue....

The game has been out for 3 weeks.....take a chill pill

If you don't like what they have to say in April, by all means, Rage!

If you buy w.e dlc they release concerning the ending, and you don't like it...then RAAAGE....I may even be there with you


But until they announce something and release it, just stfu and contribute to a healthy debate rather than spewing hate at Bioware and drilling your narrow-minded negativity into everybody's heads

[philippe willaume]

Karrie788 wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

I never understood how the IT fits into the whole Normandy scene.

Why would Shepard dream of his/her crew crashing on some planet, stranded? That's not happy. Just the way the whole Normandy escape scene is shown, never really added up to me as being apart of the hallucination.

I'm not overly familiar with the IT, but the impression I got was that Shepard envisioned his/her crew in a safe place before he/she died. To have a sense of hope for the people he/she cares about. After all the first person who pops out of the Normandy after Joker is your LI.

IT= indoctrination Theory ie the reaper are trying to control shepard and the ending are the shepards fight to get free. A bit like the fade trip in DA:0.

well we are kind of playing shepard and this is the last instalment so the fate if our companion kind of matter, so that is kind of important, and in the story as it is i am not sure when we could have done that.
Nothing in what we are told lets me believe that the companions that are on eath are not part of the last push.

but yes may be we forgot to tell ourselves that getting the companion on the shuttle/normandy was the plan.
(i should have call my char JPP shepard so that i would have noted it somewhere.)

Phil

[Pallid]

I smell "clarification". And it smells bad.

[Gemini1179]

A complete game should never come with a "yet". Period. The games was released unfinished, I have no doubt.

[Stalker]

Ah yes, "clarification"...

I am so looking forward to how they could possibly explain this huge chain of plot-holes...

[Endersgone]

Yes, please continue to string us along; it's so enthralling...

Modifié par Endersgone, 29 mars 2012 - 05:28 .

[philippe willaume]

Mcfly616 wrote...

If this was all planned, has anybody thought that maybe they've had a timelime and an announcement date already set before the game was ever released?....I mean if they mapped out exact dates in which they wanted to make a true announcement then I would credit them for sticking to the plan and not breaking under the pressure from fans.....


Good things come to those that wait....and patience is a virtue....

The game has been out for 3 weeks.....take a chill pill

If you don't like what they have to say in April, by all means, Rage!

If you buy w.e dlc they release concerning the ending, and you don't like it...then RAAAGE....I may even be there with you


But until they announce something and release it, just stfu and contribute to a healthy debate rather than spewing hate at Bioware and drilling your narrow-minded negativity into everybody's heads

Well i think it is a tad over optimistic. to understanbd the "yet" as meaning we had a plan all along rather than wait util we finish the ending DLC.

phil

Modifié par philippe willaume, 29 mars 2012 - 05:28 .

[SaladinDheonqar]

Oh god... it really sounds like they're going to try and salvage the wreck instead of building a new boat. They're really not listening are they? T_T

[Hexley UK]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Ah yes, "clarification"...

I am so looking forward to how they could possibly explain this huge chain of plot-holes...

Lol same and also how many plotholes they create while explaining away the original plotholes....

[pablosplinter]

If it turns out that they did NOT have this planned from the start(almost certainly not), then this tweet is just appalling......the grin after 'yet' is the ultimate kick in the balls if they are only doing it due to pressure from fans.

[Amagoi]

Gemini1179 wrote...

A complete game should never come with a "yet". Period. The games was released unfinished, I have no doubt.

It's either they intentionally released an incomplete product, or they released one with a horrible ending that they thought was great. Personally, I would prefer the latter. At least then it wouldn't reek of sleezy marketing ploys and leading their fans on. It would just mean that they're out of touch and made a huge mistake.


and I agree with MrAtomica. Sums up how I feel about the Citadel a lot. I hate that tweet. It destroys about as much of ME3 as the ending. So lazy and casually wiping out half of the game's purpose.

[Hendrik.III]

This only increases my fear for a "clarification" DLC.

[The Almighty Ali]

Imagine if it's

"You know that one guy up on the bridge, you know the one that you couldn't interact with. His name is Scotty. So that explains it"

 

[Mcfly616]

@Phillipe....

I never said they planned it....I said "IF" they planned it...

It had no relation to the tweet....I'm not even gonna begin speculating on the tweet

Im just referring to the people that come on the forums to b**** to no end about something that nobody knows anything about yet....nobody will know until Bioware announces it....


Everybody needs to relax til then

[alberta]

You gotta give BW credit - they're playing us like an orchestra. We hang on to ever word, every tweet, even hint, every rumor - BW has us all exactly where they want us - completely in the palm of their hand! Who is in charge - BW!

[wright1978]

Total Biscuit wrote...


I really, really would prefer they leave the Normandy teleporting as simply not making sense, then clarify it to show exactly how the rest of the characters turned coward, abandoned Shepard, and the attempts to activate the Crucible despite it supposedly being the galaxies only hope, then running away from battle and leaving everyone to die. The fact they end up on heavy handed religios symbolism world would just be the crap icing on the dung cake after that.

Dung cake or dung cake with crap icing. Hmm no thanks, can i have some proper varied endings that make sense without the big dollop of railroading please.

[Kushan101]

Why has it taken this massive outcry to make them realise something so basic didn't make sense?

[Mcfly616]

What alberta said.....

[Dendio1]

Hi everyone;
I came back from the future...pax 2012
just wanna let everyone know
Indoctrination....Theory....was...right