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[Rockworm503]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Yeah,because quitting on entire trilogy because of the last 5 minutes means being a true fan. Don't you know that people???

Why not?  Bioware obviously did.

[ObserverStatus]

Control ending was BA. Repaers: "WE ARE COMMANDER SHEPARD AND THIS IS OUR FAVORITE STORE ON THE CITADEL"

[Zemore]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...


That's not even CLOSE to true.

The OP wants to be snide and insulting if you liked it, not accepting of your opinions that differ from theirs. 

the Op posted in this topic twice the first post and one later post .... both of which was him just talking nonsense (which he admitted to in his second post) i think you might be confusing the OP with the guy youve been arguing with

[Rockworm503]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sebbe1337o wrote...

Anyone who likes the ending(s) isn't a true ME fan imho. There are so many plot holes and no closure at all. A trilogy like this needs closure. If it would be as long as the ending to The Return of The King I'd be happy as hell. That ending is looong.

Ignorant comments like that is why your side gets attacked by others so often. It has closure, the main protaganist at the end what happens to him or her, you do not get much more closed than that from a character based role playing game. Additional exposition to gain more closure is optional and merely subjective preference. As such due to some people wanting that additional exposition that is what Bioware said they are going to give in the next DLC.

Not sure if you are serious anymore. That is just plain wrong.

It's valid, you just don't agree with it. Though then again given your responses in here you shrug off anything you disagree with. I can't explain it in great detail and kept it brief/vague because look at the title of this section of the forum (no spoilers).

Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

[Icemix]

Bleh wrong OP my bad. So many topics discussing the same thing...

[xFlamexOfxHellx]

Well if all those fleets were stuck on/near earth the quarians could show them how to live on their ships (assuming they survived), geth were showing quarians how to adabt to enviorments by messing with their suits, and showing them how to farm so earth could just be the new capitol for all the races now. (Once again if get survived), still adds the problem of the planet might not be habitable anymore. But if it was the could manage with geth's super intellegence. Solves the fleets being stranded there.

Joker running away makes no sense at all, especially with your entire team that was on Earth, and the child's reason's for reapers existing is retarded and the old man telling the boy a story is also dumb. Some stuff good other stuff bad.

I also didn't like the endingbutI don't think it makes people less of a fan if they did like it.

[Dragoonlordz]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sebbe1337o wrote...

Anyone who likes the ending(s) isn't a true ME fan imho. There are so many plot holes and no closure at all. A trilogy like this needs closure. If it would be as long as the ending to The Return of The King I'd be happy as hell. That ending is looong.

Ignorant comments like that is why your side gets attacked by others so often. It has closure, the main protaganist at the end what happens to him or her, you do not get much more closed than that from a character based role playing game. Additional exposition to gain more closure is optional and merely subjective preference. As such due to some people wanting that additional exposition that is what Bioware said they are going to give in the next DLC.

Not sure if you are serious anymore. That is just plain wrong.

It's valid, you just don't agree with it. Though then again given your responses in here you shrug off anything you disagree with. I can't explain it in great detail and kept it brief/vague because look at the title of this section of the forum (no spoilers).

Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Care to point to anywhere which I said you are wrong to dislike the ending? Care to explain or show where I said was no plot holes? Neither of these two things have happened so don't sound so foolish and say or pretend I said something I did not. The one talking to is going basically trololo to everything I said and say in my thread and has not got a clue what was in it because he clearly has not read it past first few sentences in the entire 13 pages.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 mars 2012 - 08:51 .

[EvilTaxi]

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.  Contrary to what some would like to believe, the way an argument is delivered and who's delivering said argument are as important as the argument itself.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

Modifié par EvilTaxi, 29 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[Rockworm503]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Icemix wrote...


If you like cheese fries, you should be able to explain why you do.
*mind blown*

Because they're good.

But wait, that's not enough for you, is it?

Again you fail to understand basic 5 year old logic...

[Zemore]

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

we are the harbinger of your genetic destiny ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL(couldent resist)

Modifié par Zemore, 29 mars 2012 - 08:50 .

[Annora]

Klencory is famously claimed by the eccentric volus billionaire Kumun Shol. He claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light." These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."

Shol has been excavating on Klencory's toxic surface for two decades, at great expense. No government has valued the world enough to evict his small army of mercenaries.

And I'm fine with the ending.

[Icemix]

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

Who the **** is raining on anyones parede? 
They say they like the ending. Fine that is great, good for them.
Now I ask, if you liked the ending, how do you justify the story inconsistences and the huge amount of plot holes?
The only answer I get is "I liked it, why should I have to justify anything".
One would asume that you should be able to defend your opinion, how am I supposed to take any of you serious if you can't do that?

Modifié par Icemix, 29 mars 2012 - 08:57 .

[Annora]

Icemix, see above.

[Dragoonlordz]

Icemix wrote...

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

Who the **** is raining on anyones parede? 
They say they like the ending. Fine that is great, good for them.
Now I ask, if you liked the ending, how do you justify the story inconsistences and the huge amount of plot holes?
The only answer I get is "I liked it, why should I have to justify anything".
One would asume that you should be able to defend your opinion, how am I supposed to take any of you serious if you can't do that?

I am not copy and pasting 13 pages of my replies of which I answered your questions already asked by others towards me (not with just because I liked x, y and z) simply because your too dam lazy to look and instead rely on vast false implications. Noone likes to talk to a brick wall and thats what it is like talking to you.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[Zemore]

Anastassia wrote...

Klencory is famously claimed by the eccentric volus billionaire Kumun Shol. He claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light." These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."

Shol has been excavating on Klencory's toxic surface for two decades, at great expense. No government has valued the world enough to evict his small army of mercenaries.

And I'm fine with the ending.

if your going to go back to ME1 for answeres ask the rachini queen about the oily shadows .... sheps dream was full of them =/ 

Just because things were mentioned in an earlier game doesnt nessicarily mean they are the same context as was orginally intended the beings of light saving us .... the oily shadows meaning indoctrination ...the game was too rushed and the end is full of plotholes to be certain about any of it in my opinion

[Rockworm503]

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.  Contrary to what some would like to believe, the way an argument is delivered and who's delivering said argument are as important as the argument itself.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

You should get off the internet right now.
Because you pretty much explained what an internet forum is.
People complain.
People talk.
People have opinions.
Suddenly my opionion means less because I talk alot.
What is funny in all of this is how you can read the emotion through my text.
Not once.
NOT once have I had a "conniption fit" or gotten really angry.  Most of my emotion has been behind closed doors where it wont affect anyone else.

What is beyond me is you enjoy the games endings right?  Why are you here getting mad at us who have specifically said that the endings not only suck but ruin possible future playthroughs?
I see it time and time again.  People who are HAPPY with the godamn endings attacking those who aren't because?../?? what your enjoyment lessoned because we exist?

[Icemix]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Icemix wrote...

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

Who the **** is raining on anyones parede? 
They say they like the ending. Fine that is great, good for them.
Now I ask, if you liked the ending, how do you justify the story inconsistences and the huge amount of plot holes?
The only answer I get is "I liked it, why should I have to justify anything".
One would asume that you should be able to defend your opinion, how am I supposed to take any of you serious if you can't do that?

I am not copy and pasting 13 pages of my replies of which I answered your questions already asked by others towards me (not with just because I liked x, y and z) simply because your too dam lazy to look and instead rely on vast false implications. Noone likes to talk to a brick wall and thats what it is like talking to you.

Yes because I am going to go dig in 13 pages for 1 or 2 replies, that may or may not have anything to do with this argument. Either PM me tose replies where you adress your stance on the plot holes or don't bother replying to me.

[Annora]

Zemore wrote...

Anastassia wrote...

Klencory is famously claimed by the eccentric volus billionaire Kumun Shol. He claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light." These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."

Shol has been excavating on Klencory's toxic surface for two decades, at great expense. No government has valued the world enough to evict his small army of mercenaries.

And I'm fine with the ending.

if your going to go back to ME1 for answeres ask the rachini queen about the oily shadows .... sheps dream was full of them =/ 

Just because things were mentioned in an earlier game doesnt nessicarily mean they are the same context as was orginally intended the beings of light saving us .... the oily shadows meaning indoctrination ...the game was too rushed and the end is full of plotholes to be certain about any of it in my opinion

I could say the same about the 'evidence' from Arrival that all Mass Relays explode star systems.

And Klencory was in all three games.

[EvilTaxi]

Icemix wrote...
Who the **** is raining on anyones parede? 
They say they like the ending. Fine that is great, good for them.
Now I ask, if you liked the ending, how do you justify the story inconsistences and the huge amount of plot holes?
The only answer I get is "I liked it, why should I have to justify anything".
One would asume that you should be able to defend your opinion, how am I supposed to take any of you serious if you can't do that?

Short version: You don't have to.
Long version: Your camp and the other camp obviously have irreconcilable differences of opinion. Accept it and move on to something different. It's like trying to convince a righty that Obamacare is good or a lefty that the Keystone XL pipeline is awesome.

[Rockworm503]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Icemix wrote...

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

Who the **** is raining on anyones parede? 
They say they like the ending. Fine that is great, good for them.
Now I ask, if you liked the ending, how do you justify the story inconsistences and the huge amount of plot holes?
The only answer I get is "I liked it, why should I have to justify anything".
One would asume that you should be able to defend your opinion, how am I supposed to take any of you serious if you can't do that?

I am not copy and pasting 13 pages of my replies of which I answered your questions already asked by others towards me (not with just because I liked x, y and z) simply because your too dam lazy to look and instead rely on vast false implications. Noone likes to talk to a brick wall and thats what it is like talking to you.

I read some of that thread.
your ok with it because it doesn't follow the cliche ending of being and actual ending?

[Dragoonlordz]

Rockworm503 wrote...

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.  Contrary to what some would like to believe, the way an argument is delivered and who's delivering said argument are as important as the argument itself.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

You should get off the internet right now.
Because you pretty much explained what an internet forum is.
People complain.
People talk.
People have opinions.
Suddenly my opionion means less because I talk alot.
What is funny in all of this is how you can read the emotion through my text.
Not once.
NOT once have I had a "conniption fit" or gotten really angry.  Most of my emotion has been behind closed doors where it wont affect anyone else.

What is beyond me is you enjoy the games endings right?  Why are you here getting mad at us who have specifically said that the endings not only suck but ruin possible future playthroughs?
I see it time and time again.  People who are HAPPY with the godamn endings attacking those who aren't because?../?? what your enjoyment lessoned because we exist?

Yet you appear to be very much ignoring all those who dislike it attacking on a constant basis everytime someone says they liked something. I don't go into threads with titles "I hate the endings and here's why" and start to attack them yet they do so to the opposite 24/7 non stop (I do read them but do not feel the need to spam it against them and just accept thats why "they" disliked it). Many who ask questions who do it the right way gets answered "if" the person feels like it, there is no gun being held to their heads and it is their choice if choose to do so. However a truly vast amount like the very person I was talking to even though I have answered his question in the thread I mentioned and if was genuinely curious as to why, he would of read more then bullet points or first page. He HAS NOT but instead constantly spam responses saying false implications that I supposedly through out those 13 pages said "I like it" over and over when reality is VERY much not the case. You are no better when implied I said something I certainly did not.

[Dragoonlordz]

Icemix wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Icemix wrote...

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

Who the **** is raining on anyones parede? 
They say they like the ending. Fine that is great, good for them.
Now I ask, if you liked the ending, how do you justify the story inconsistences and the huge amount of plot holes?
The only answer I get is "I liked it, why should I have to justify anything".
One would asume that you should be able to defend your opinion, how am I supposed to take any of you serious if you can't do that?

I am not copy and pasting 13 pages of my replies of which I answered your questions already asked by others towards me (not with just because I liked x, y and z) simply because your too dam lazy to look and instead rely on vast false implications. Noone likes to talk to a brick wall and thats what it is like talking to you.

Yes because I am going to go dig in 13 pages for 1 or 2 replies, that may or may not have anything to do with this argument. Either PM me tose replies where you adress your stance on the plot holes or don't bother replying to me.

No for the simple reason almost everyone of your side has relied on those plot holes to attack my stance so almost every other reply in that thread talks about those plot holes hence not copying thirteen pages. There is not just 'one' reply and answer in the thread about your issue, in fact most of it is about it so it is not the case of copy and pasting a "couple" of answers as almost every other answer in it relates to your problem.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 mars 2012 - 09:17 .

[Rockworm503]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

EvilTaxi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Just like you shrug off what we say because we're the vocal minority?

There's a lot of shrugging off on both sides.
Simple point is the ending not only ruins it it ruins the entire series for some of us.  Who are you who get to enjoy the damn game despite all its plot holes get to tell us we're wrong?

Because any validity to the arguments gets thrown out the window because the most vocal of you are the ones who are either "DO X OR ELSE I WON'T BUY ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN" or are "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU'VE LOST MY MONEY FOREVER."  Now I don't like the endings either, but at least I'm not screaming and having a conniption over it.  Contrary to what some would like to believe, the way an argument is delivered and who's delivering said argument are as important as the argument itself.

To turn the tables, who are you to rain on the parades of those who did enjoy it?

You should get off the internet right now.
Because you pretty much explained what an internet forum is.
People complain.
People talk.
People have opinions.
Suddenly my opionion means less because I talk alot.
What is funny in all of this is how you can read the emotion through my text.
Not once.
NOT once have I had a "conniption fit" or gotten really angry.  Most of my emotion has been behind closed doors where it wont affect anyone else.

What is beyond me is you enjoy the games endings right?  Why are you here getting mad at us who have specifically said that the endings not only suck but ruin possible future playthroughs?
I see it time and time again.  People who are HAPPY with the godamn endings attacking those who aren't because?../?? what your enjoyment lessoned because we exist?

Yet you appear to be very much ignoring all those who dislike it attacking on a constant basis everytime someone says they liked something. I don't go into threads with titles "I hate the endings and here's why" and start to attack them yet they do so to the opposite 24/7 non stop (I do read them but do not feel the need to spam it against them and just accept thats why "they" disliked it). Many who ask questions who do it the right way gets answered "if" the person feels like it, there is no gun being held to their heads and it is their choice if choose to do so. However a truly vast amount like the very person I was talking to even though I have answered his question in the thread I mentioned and if was genuinely curious as to why, he would of read more then bullet points or first page. He HAS NOT but instead constantly spam responses saying false implications that I supposedly through out those 13 pages said "I like it" over and over when reality is VERY much not the case. You are no better when implied I said something I certainly did not.

AND here comes the generalizing again.
Some people on my side attack you so therefore we all are.
I been called a child stealer because of what I thought of the endings.
I been dismissed because I'm the vocal minority.
I've had people troll me just to try and get me banned yet I'm still here.

Yet I haven't attacked anyone.

[Icemix]

EvilTaxi wrote...

Icemix wrote...
Who the **** is raining on anyones parede? 
They say they like the ending. Fine that is great, good for them.
Now I ask, if you liked the ending, how do you justify the story inconsistences and the huge amount of plot holes?
The only answer I get is "I liked it, why should I have to justify anything".
One would asume that you should be able to defend your opinion, how am I supposed to take any of you serious if you can't do that?

Short version: You don't have to.
Long version: Your camp and the other camp obviously have irreconcilable differences of opinion. Accept it and move on to something different. It's like trying to convince a righty that Obamacare is good or a lefty that the Keystone XL pipeline is awesome.

There shouldn't be camps. We should all be discussing this in a civilized matter, instead both sides are just baiting each other into flame wars. Its disgusting.