Aller au contenu

Photo

Banning for Modding?


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
259 réponses à ce sujet

#201
Animositisomina

Animositisomina
  • Members
  • 2 699 messages

durasteel wrote...

I guess the moral of the story is that if you are going to mod the game, just give yourself a default galactic readiness of 100% and forget all about the multi-player part of the game, which you no longer need anyway.


Origin bans are a little nastier than that. If you get banned, you are completely locked out of a game. That means no singleplayer anymore, either.

#202
dgumb

dgumb
  • Members
  • 401 messages

Arokel wrote...

Name me another game where modding of the single player is banned by the EULA aside from perhaps any of the CoD games.


Starcraft 2.

On October 1, 2010, Blizzard began the unprecedented act of suspending and banning players for the use of cheats and trainers in SINGLE PLAYER games of Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty. Users found to be using cheats in SINGLE PLAYER CAMPAIGN MODE and AI SKIRMISH mode were treated the same as if they had cheated in a multiplayer online match. For some, their accounts were suspended and for others their CD keys were disabled and they were completely locked out of playing even campaign mode in their legally purchased game.

“I was mostly shocked,” Cheat Happens gm0ney said of the ban e-mail. “Although with all of the news about bans and suspensions coming up, I was somewhat prepared. Blizzard has made it very public in the few months since the game’s release that they would take immediate action against anyone found cheating in any form of StarCraft 2. “We take cheating in our games very seriously,” said a Blizzard spokesperson in a press release. “If you’re caught cheating in Starcraft 2, Blizzard, as per the terms in the EULA reserves the right to ban your battle.net account and/or CD key from ever playing again, online or off." In essence, it’s the language of the EULA that’s in question in the argument as Blizzard states that “playing anything other than an unaltered game client violates the Battle.net terms or use. “We strongly recommend that you avoid using any hacks, cheats or exploits.”


Modifié par dgumb, 30 mars 2012 - 04:24 .


#203
dreman9999

dreman9999
  • Members
  • 19 067 messages
People been Modding ME3 to hell and back already and they've done nothing. People calm down. They're not going to do anything if you mod your game. Just if you mod the Mp.

#204
Grasich

Grasich
  • Members
  • 1 671 messages
I wonder if EA will ever realize why so many people pirate their games? No one wants to deal with crap like this.

#205
dreman9999

dreman9999
  • Members
  • 19 067 messages

Animositisomina wrote...

Repossessor wrote...

Only if you mod the MP sections apparently:

http://social.biowar...7845/1#10089473


Continue reading, particularly the post from Thomas Abram. Modifying anything (since MP and SP rely on the same file) can lead to a ban. It is not MP-specific.

I think I'll take the word from a dev over your word.:whistle:

#206
Phydeaux314

Phydeaux314
  • Members
  • 1 400 messages
Wait.

Seriously?

They're banning people over single-player mods?

#207
locsphere

locsphere
  • Members
  • 422 messages
So much for counter strike type spin offs anymore. EA RUIN EVERYTHING!

#208
dreman9999

dreman9999
  • Members
  • 19 067 messages

Phydeaux314 wrote...

Wait.

Seriously?

They're banning people over single-player mods?

No...http://social.biowar...7845/1#10089473

#209
Animositisomina

Animositisomina
  • Members
  • 2 699 messages

dreman9999 wrote...

Phydeaux314 wrote...

Wait.

Seriously?

They're banning people over single-player mods?


No.. -derp-


YES.

http://social.biowar...7845/2#10648995


BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ONLY MODIFY SINGLEPLAYER, IT USES THE SAME FILE AS MULTIPLAYER. ANY CHANGE DETECTED CAN LEAD TO A BAN, PERIOD.

Modifié par Animositisomina, 30 mars 2012 - 04:28 .


#210
Animositisomina

Animositisomina
  • Members
  • 2 699 messages

dreman9999 wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

Repossessor wrote...

Only if you mod the MP sections apparently:

http://social.biowar...7845/1#10089473


Continue reading, particularly the post from Thomas Abram. Modifying anything (since MP and SP rely on the same file) can lead to a ban. It is not MP-specific.

I think I'll take the word from a dev over your word.:whistle:


You do know that Thomas Abram IS A DEV, right? This is not "my word", it's the word of someone who works at BioWare!

Modifié par Animositisomina, 30 mars 2012 - 04:30 .


#211
dgumb

dgumb
  • Members
  • 401 messages

Animositisomina wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Phydeaux314 wrote...

Wait.

Seriously?

They're banning people over single-player mods?


No.. -derp-


YES.

http://social.biowar...7845/2#10648995


BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ONLY MODIFY SINGLEPLAYER, IT USES THE SAME FILE AS MULTIPLAYER. ANY CHANGE DETECTED CAN LEAD TO A BAN, PERIOD.


It isn't as cut and dry as you make it out to be:

Tleining wrote...

i asked Thomas Abram for clarification on the different Statements in that Thread, this is his answer: 

"Scylla's statement is more accurate then mine. Refer to his for now that being said my statement was more to make people think twice before modifying the coalesced file as it can cause major problems that we really can't help people with if all goes wrong."

So as long as you restore the Original Coalesced when playing MP, you should be fine. (note: my question was only about the coalesced. I don't know what happens if you mod other files)


Scylla's statement being:

Hi HJF4,

We are only taking action against players who modify their multiplayer game to gain unfair progression, unfair advantage, or affect the experience of other players.

Examples are (but not limited to):
- Increase leaderboard rating.
- Increase amount of credits received on a match.
- Increase/modify weapon/power stats. 


Modifié par dgumb, 30 mars 2012 - 04:33 .


#212
Bfler

Bfler
  • Members
  • 2 991 messages
With the links of dreman9999 and Animositisomina it seems like in case of Bioware the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

#213
Jackal7713

Jackal7713
  • Members
  • 1 661 messages
Looks like only cheaters are getting banned. So don't worry about SP friends.

"We are only taking action against players who modify their multiplayer game to gain unfair progression, unfair advantage, or affect the experience of other players.

Examples are (but not limited to):
- Increase leaderboard rating.
- Increase amount of credits received on a match.
- Increase/modify weapon/power stats."

#214
Animositisomina

Animositisomina
  • Members
  • 2 699 messages
Image IPB

#215
ElectronicPostingInterface

ElectronicPostingInterface
  • Members
  • 3 789 messages
Wow. This is stupid.

#216
Asepsis

Asepsis
  • Members
  • 468 messages
Wow...that stinks.

#217
Isichar

Isichar
  • Members
  • 10 125 messages
This is because you cant own art. And videogames are art right? We should feel privileged that they even let us play the game we payed for in the first place.

#218
Guest_forsaken gamer_*

Guest_forsaken gamer_*
  • Guests

dgumb wrote...

Tleining wrote...

i asked Thomas Abram for clarification on the different Statements in that Thread, this is his answer: 

"Scylla's statement is more accurate then mine. Refer to his for now that being said my statement was more to make people think twice before modifying the coalesced file as it can cause major problems that we really can't help people with if all goes wrong."

So as long as you restore the Original Coalesced when playing MP, you should be fine. (note: my question was only about the coalesced. I don't know what happens if you mod other files)


Scylla's statement being:

Hi HJF4,

We are only taking action against players who modify their multiplayer game to gain unfair progression, unfair advantage, or affect the experience of other players.

Examples are (but not limited to):
- Increase leaderboard rating.
- Increase amount of credits received on a match.
- Increase/modify weapon/power stats. 

There you go.

/thread

#219
dreman9999

dreman9999
  • Members
  • 19 067 messages

Animositisomina wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Phydeaux314 wrote...

Wait.

Seriously?

They're banning people over single-player mods?


No.. -derp-


YES.

http://social.biowar...7845/2#10648995


BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ONLY MODIFY SINGLEPLAYER, IT USES THE SAME FILE AS MULTIPLAYER. ANY CHANGE DETECTED CAN LEAD TO A BAN, PERIOD.

I'll take the word from a dev over yours....A dev said  they arn't banning for modding the sp then they arn't baning for modding the sp. Heck, ME3 already has been modded to hell and back, yet no one has been banned. They will only ban mp modding, which is resonable.

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 mars 2012 - 04:47 .


#220
Bloody_Hypocrite

Bloody_Hypocrite
  • Members
  • 70 messages
I miss the days when studios/publishers embraced modding. I remember playing the crap out of Team Fortress when it came out for Quake, downloading countless users maps and player models for the Unreal Tournament series at a whopping 56k, All those games had so much more value due to mods.

#221
Animositisomina

Animositisomina
  • Members
  • 2 699 messages

dreman9999 wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Phydeaux314 wrote...

Wait.

Seriously?

They're banning people over single-player mods?


No.. -derp-


YES.

http://social.biowar...7845/2#10648995


BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ONLY MODIFY SINGLEPLAYER, IT USES THE SAME FILE AS MULTIPLAYER. ANY CHANGE DETECTED CAN LEAD TO A BAN, PERIOD.

I'll take the word from a dev over yours....A dev said  they arn't banning for modding the sp then they arn't baning for modding the sp. Heck, ME3 already has been modded to hell and back, yet no one has been banned. They will only ban mp modding, which is resonable.


Hey, genius: Thomas Abram *is* a dev, he is a BioWare employee. Are you just ignoring this fact on purpose, or what?

Modifié par Animositisomina, 30 mars 2012 - 04:53 .


#222
dreman9999

dreman9999
  • Members
  • 19 067 messages

forsaken gamer wrote...

dgumb wrote...

Tleining wrote...

i asked Thomas Abram for clarification on the different Statements in that Thread, this is his answer: 

"Scylla's statement is more accurate then mine. Refer to his for now that being said my statement was more to make people think twice before modifying the coalesced file as it can cause major problems that we really can't help people with if all goes wrong."

So as long as you restore the Original Coalesced when playing MP, you should be fine. (note: my question was only about the coalesced. I don't know what happens if you mod other files)


Scylla's statement being:

Hi HJF4,

We are only taking action against players who modify their multiplayer game to gain unfair progression, unfair advantage, or affect the experience of other players.

Examples are (but not limited to):
- Increase leaderboard rating.
- Increase amount of credits received on a match.
- Increase/modify weapon/power stats. 

There you go.

/thread

Yep. Guess all the over reacting people can stop over reacting.=]

#223
dgumb

dgumb
  • Members
  • 401 messages

Animositisomina wrote...

Hey, genius: Thomas Abram *is* a dev, he is a BioWare employee. Are you just ignoring this fact on purpose, or what?


Yeah, and he specifically deferred to a post from another dev that goes against what you're saying. Which you seem to be ignoring on purpose.

Just saying.

#224
Animositisomina

Animositisomina
  • Members
  • 2 699 messages

dreman9999 wrote...

-derp-


Image IPB

#225
Animositisomina

Animositisomina
  • Members
  • 2 699 messages

dgumb wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

Hey, genius: Thomas Abram *is* a dev, he is a BioWare employee. Are you just ignoring this fact on purpose, or what?


Yeah, and he specifically deferred to a post from another dev that goes against what you're saying. Which you seem to be ignoring on purpose.

Just saying.


lol... Yeah, okay guys. Do as you will, then.