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Arppis wrote...

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Maybe a crossbow, low projectile speed to bypass shields and low sound for assassination?

I mean, with enough exposition anything is possible.


I wonder what is the "speed limit" for the kinetic barriers to stop noticing.

Well, The guns seem to fire at the speed of sound, I guess since they never actually stated the minimum speed it blocks they can always add one.

Or did they, maybe in a book or codex page....

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The Codex says the swords are "Monomollecular" aka, sharpened to the thickness of one molecule.

That is unbelievably sharp. Something that sharp could slice through just about anything.

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KleinerVance wrote...

The Codex says the swords are "Monomollecular" aka, sharpened to the thickness of one molecule.

That is unbelievably sharp. Something that sharp could slice through just about anything.

riiiggghhttt.... soo they did pull some vibroblade bs then. well thats good, and here i was worried the swords didnt make sense... how silly of me

Modifié par Bedevil123, 29 mars 2012 - 05:58 .


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Read the description on the shotgun bayonet, same as the swords I'd assume.

Having an agile melee enemy, however ridiculous is fun. And smashing Kai Leng's sword? ****ing epic. If you don't agree that phantoms and Kai Leng can exist ONLY for that moment, you are a lost cause.

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Bedevil123 wrote...

KleinerVance wrote...

The Codex says the swords are "Monomollecular" aka, sharpened to the thickness of one molecule.

That is unbelievably sharp. Something that sharp could slice through just about anything.

riiiggghhttt.... soo they did pull some vibroblade bs then. well thats good, and here i was worried the swords didnt make sense... how silly of me

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Doesn't a monomollecular blade make sense?

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Anyone else want to see Krogan wielding Warhammers and Halberds?

And Elcor could be living battering rams.

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KleinerVance wrote...

The Codex says the swords are "Monomollecular" aka, sharpened to the thickness of one molecule.

That is unbelievably sharp. Something that sharp could slice through just about anything.


a bit of nigtmare to put in a scabard or a rack then.?

Modifié par philippe willaume, 29 mars 2012 - 06:03 .


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SNascimento wrote...

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KleinerVance wrote...

The Codex says the swords are "Monomollecular" aka, sharpened to the thickness of one molecule.

That is unbelievably sharp. Something that sharp could slice through just about anything.

riiiggghhttt.... soo they did pull some vibroblade bs then. well thats good, and here i was worried the swords didnt make sense... how silly of me

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Doesn't a monomollecular blade make sense?


yeah i geuss, it would be really sharp, but wouldnt it also be really brittle along the blade? and if you notched it how would yu get it resharpened to a usable thickness? idk i guess it makes more sense than the omni-blade does

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Bedevil123 wrote...

riiiggghhttt.... soo they did pull some vibroblade bs then. well thats good, and here i was worried the swords didnt make sense... how silly of me


Well, I'm only going to speak for omni-blades here, but the codex specifically omni-blades are spontaneously fabricated by the omni-tool out of silicon carbide. Long story short, it's not the sharpness of the omni-blade that makes it dangerous but rather it's 5,000 degrees fahrenheit, and due to thermal conductivity of silicon carbide dumps that heat straight into whatever you impale.

You didn't just stab Kai Leng, you cooked him from the inside out.

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humes spork wrote...

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riiiggghhttt.... soo they did pull some vibroblade bs then. well thats good, and here i was worried the swords didnt make sense... how silly of me


Well, I'm only going to speak for omni-blades here, but the codex specifically omni-blades are spontaneously fabricated by the omni-tool out of silicon carbide. Long story short, it's not the sharpness of the omni-blade that makes it dangerous but rather it's 5,000 degrees fahrenheit, and due to thermal conductivity of silicon carbide dumps that heat straight into whatever you impale.

You didn't just stab Kai Leng, you cooked him from the inside out.

oh! actually thats not bad. no more ridiculus than any of the other omni-tool powers. thx

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humes spork wrote...

Bedevil123 wrote...

riiiggghhttt.... soo they did pull some vibroblade bs then. well thats good, and here i was worried the swords didnt make sense... how silly of me


Well, I'm only going to speak for omni-blades here, but the codex specifically omni-blades are spontaneously fabricated by the omni-tool out of silicon carbide. Long story short, it's not the sharpness of the omni-blade that makes it dangerous but rather it's 5,000 degrees fahrenheit, and due to thermal conductivity of silicon carbide dumps that heat straight into whatever you impale.

You didn't just stab Kai Leng, you cooked him from the inside out.

That just made stabbing Kai Leng so much more statisfieing, thanks for the explenation.

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Bedevil123 wrote...

oh! actually thats not bad. no more ridiculus than any of the other omni-tool powers. thx


That narrative train goes all the way back to ME1, with ME2 representing the majority of the retcons when it comes to stuff like this. Omni-gel is pretty crazy stuff.

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SinerAthin wrote...

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A sword is too low velocity to trigger a kinetic barrier, while remaining capable of penetrating armor. Seems like a legit tactic to me.


No it's not, a normal human could never pierce modern body armor with a normal sword :P

Let alone the armor in Mass Effect :o


 

depend on how your body armor is made. kevlar only is not knife-proof. but military grade kevlar and 2 inches metal plate can protect you,

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Kai Leng could have gotten away with using a Sword and SMG if it was done better. Unfortunately with all the impractical anime posing he became a cartoon villain. Honestly the dude had all the tools to be bad ass (cybernetics, biotics, Alliance military background, cerebrus resources), but there is a reason people groan at the way Kai was done as opposed to Saren.

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It should have been an Omniblade or make him use dual pistols...

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I prefer guns, Thanks.

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WarpedAcorn wrote...

Unfortunately with all the impractical anime posing he became a cartoon villain.


That's to what it boils down. His highly cliched characterization, plus plot armor, just renders him a villain sue.

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humes spork wrote...

Well, I'm only going to speak for omni-blades here, but the codex specifically omni-blades are spontaneously fabricated by the omni-tool out of silicon carbide. Long story short, it's not the sharpness of the omni-blade that makes it dangerous but rather it's 5,000 degrees fahrenheit, and due to thermal conductivity of silicon carbide dumps that heat straight into whatever you impale.

You didn't just stab Kai Leng, you cooked him from the inside out.


actually that raises the question, why dont the phantoms and KL just use omni-blades? they sound way more badass and devestating than a really sharp sword

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raizathestorm wrote...

A sword is too low velocity to trigger a kinetic barrier, while remaining capable of penetrating armor. Seems like a legit tactic to me.


Isn't this why they used swords in the Dune universe? I think so but I'm not sure. If so this is not at all unprecidented.

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Bedevil123 wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

Bedevil123 wrote...

KleinerVance wrote...

The Codex says the swords are "Monomollecular" aka, sharpened to the thickness of one molecule.

That is unbelievably sharp. Something that sharp could slice through just about anything.

riiiggghhttt.... soo they did pull some vibroblade bs then. well thats good, and here i was worried the swords didnt make sense... how silly of me

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Doesn't a monomollecular blade make sense?


yeah i geuss, it would be really sharp, but wouldnt it also be really brittle along the blade? and if you notched it how would yu get it resharpened to a usable thickness? idk i guess it makes more sense than the omni-blade does


I guess that would depend on the material it's made of. I'm sure they have some fancy, super high-tech alloy that's extremely durable, even at a "monomollecular" thickness.

Also, it makes no less sense than the "infinite ammo" guns which use mini mass effect fields to shear off bits of metal and fire them at super-high velocities, or holographic drones that can shoot things, etc.

Modifié par Liber320, 29 mars 2012 - 06:42 .


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Bedevil123 wrote...

actually that raises the question, why dont the phantoms and KL just use omni-blades? they sound way more badass and devestating than a really sharp sword


Good goddamn question. The only thing I can figure is somebody on the writing staff really likes animu. That crap is "bad fanfiction" bad.

Isn't this why they used swords in the Dune universe? I think so but I'm not sure. If so this is not at all unprecidented.


Yes. That and the fact Hotzman shields made ranged combat extremely dangerous (hitting a shield with a lasweapon would cause a small-yield thermonuclear detonation) and obsolete.

Modifié par humes spork, 29 mars 2012 - 06:47 .


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Bedevil123 wrote...

humes spork wrote...

Well, I'm only going to speak for omni-blades here, but the codex specifically omni-blades are spontaneously fabricated by the omni-tool out of silicon carbide. Long story short, it's not the sharpness of the omni-blade that makes it dangerous but rather it's 5,000 degrees fahrenheit, and due to thermal conductivity of silicon carbide dumps that heat straight into whatever you impale.

You didn't just stab Kai Leng, you cooked him from the inside out.


actually that raises the question, why dont the phantoms and KL just use omni-blades? they sound way more badass and devestating than a really sharp sword


Because then you wouldn't be unique!

As far as I remember, Shepard seems to be the only one with an omni-blade, which he picked up somewhere between ME2 and 3.

Secret prototype? He invented it? Space Magic? Who knows where it came from.

Modifié par Liber320, 29 mars 2012 - 06:45 .


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Plus everyone likes swords. They're just fancy.

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Ima fairin mah LAZOOOOR !!!

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Liber320 wrote...

Bedevil123 wrote...

humes spork wrote...

Well, I'm only going to speak for omni-blades here, but the codex specifically omni-blades are spontaneously fabricated by the omni-tool out of silicon carbide. Long story short, it's not the sharpness of the omni-blade that makes it dangerous but rather it's 5,000 degrees fahrenheit, and due to thermal conductivity of silicon carbide dumps that heat straight into whatever you impale.

You didn't just stab Kai Leng, you cooked him from the inside out.


actually that raises the question, why dont the phantoms and KL just use omni-blades? they sound way more badass and devestating than a really sharp sword


Because then you wouldn't be unique!

As far as I remember, Shepard seems to be the only one with an omni-blade, which he picked up somewhere between ME2 and 3.

Secret prototype? He invented it? Space Magic? Who knows where it came from.

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The codex.