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[DoctorCrowtgamer]

So then if the ending is so perfect why did Bioware lie about it?

[Taboo]

DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...

So then if the ending is so perfect why did Bioware lie about it?

A key bit of information here.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Yeah I mean why weren't they going on about the three amazing choice every player would get no matter what instead of talking about 16 endings and how no two players would get the same ending. The only reason that makes logical sense is that they know the endings are bad and people would not preorder the game if they told the truth so they lied to boost sales. i don't believe for a minute they think these endings are good or artistic,that is just PR spin.

[Coreniro]

Taboo-XX wrote...


No.

People need to understand that we are having an effect. If people spoke up like this against all forms of BS the world wouldn't be in this shape.

If you are going, know that you have more power than Bioware does and you always will. You simply do not have the materials to create. But your opinion does buy Bioware more paintbrushes and computers though. Always remember this.

Don't give up.

I should have read this before. I wouldn't have answered you... Talking about schizo patients.
Yeah, don't give up, keep on fighting for your great cause!

[Taboo]

Coreniro wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...


No.

People need to understand that we are having an effect. If people spoke up like this against all forms of BS the world wouldn't be in this shape.

If you are going, know that you have more power than Bioware does and you always will. You simply do not have the materials to create. But your opinion does buy Bioware more paintbrushes and computers though. Always remember this.

Don't give up.

I should have read this before. I wouldn't have answered you... Talking about schizo patients.
Yeah, don't give up, keep on fighting for your great cause!

I don't believe corporations are people, nor do I believe they have a right to torment people. It's unethical. I apologize for being so liberal.

[Michael Gamble]

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Modifié par Michael Gamble, 29 mars 2012 - 11:33 .

[Taboo]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Thank you very much for your response. It means a lot to read this. My experience with producers has always been sour. By simply commenting on this thread you have alleved many of my fears. Don't think I won't give up though!

[The_Crazy_Hand]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

You're right that we've been too hard on you, I personally think Casey shut you out on the endings with everyone else.  I know you can't confirm it even if true, but that's what it looks like.

[devSin]

Michael Gamble wrote...

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

Dragon Age II set the standard by having the full cast return for their DLC.

Although I can't commit yet to purchasing any ME3 DLC, I do expect you to follow the road of excellence they paved.

[MassEffecter132]

DLC PLEASE

[ogtrplganggrl]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Thank you for your response. I hope that PAX goes well for both the fans and Bioware. I was disappointed by the endings and associated plot holes but I have hope that Bioware can salvage this situation.

[Estelindis]

Michael Gamble wrote...

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums  

Thanks, Michael!  I look forward to it.  

[Versidious]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Important and useful things.

*bump*

[Tovanus]

I have to wonder what it's like day by day at Bioware's offices. I have to imagine that many of them check the fan reaction periodically, and it's probably pretty demoralizing. I think for all Bioware employees at PAX, I'd take some time to drill in a few key terms you want to avoid using:

1. "Vocal Minority"
2. "Entitlement" or any variation of that
3. "Artistic Integrity"
4. "Clarification"

I'm not going to be there, but I'd wager not using those terms will greatly improve the chances of positive fan reaction to whatever is done. Though, if they intend to keep the Starchild around, I imagine many people will give up (I just don't see any way to "clarify" that into something that fits well into the story). I think a failed response by Bioware won't end in a bang, it'll end in a whimper, with angry forum posters becoming former-forum posters.

[wasawsolos]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Thanks for the response!  It's good to know that the team isn't ignoring the fans!

[PhoenixDove1]

So far, Mr. Gambles, posts and tweets are the one thing from Bioware that helps me get by.  I know that sounds silly and don't worry I'm here until the bitter end, but it's nice that he is still responding every now and then albeit cryptically.  Just for a few minutes while I read that I forget all the people who do no agree with us, reviewers especially (I'll never be able to watch X-Play again ).  Reality of course comes crashing down but for just a few moments I have hope.

[effortname]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

I wouldn't be proud of the ending if I were in your chair, but maybe that's just my artistic integrity talking.

[Versidious]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Ooo, nice to see! I really would like to see ME3 salvaged. I won't be at PAX, but I will be watching via 'Pulse'!

[Daedalus1773]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Mr Gamble,

Thanks for your unfiltered & direct response. Much appreciated.

I look forward to hearing some definitive news on ending changes soon.

--a ME fan

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

effortname wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

I wouldn't be proud of the ending if I were in your chair, but maybe that's just my artistic integrity talking.

Totally did not expect someone would bring artistic integrity up.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

effortname wrote...

I wouldn't be proud of the ending if I were in your chair, but maybe that's just my artistic integrity talking.

This, that the ending was Casey and Mac's fault.

[FataliTensei]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

If you really cared about Mass Effect you would have come through on the promises that were made while the game was in production and those in the advertising for it.

[TheOptimist]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Thanks for coming over and talking to us.  We really appreciate it.  I hope things are constructive at PAX, and we can start down the road toward getting this resolved.

[Taboo]

TheOptimist wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Folks,

I don't represent whether or not EA funds us for any DLC content. EA supports us, don't worry about that. I help to manage some of that budget, yes, but my primary goal is to work with Casey (the executive producer) and the other creative visionaries around BioWare and create something we are proud of.

I can understand how Producers get a bad reputation sometimes - but most of us care passionately about the product we are putting out. Of course, having a financially successful game is important - but making something we are proud of, and something that's a very high quality is even more important to me.

More soon...And see, we still do read the forums

Thanks for coming over and talking to us.  We really appreciate it.  I hope things are constructive at PAX, and we can start down the road toward getting this resolved.

This is the ultimate goal.

[Eain]

Michael Gamble wrote...

EA supports us, don't worry about that.

Mike (or Mr Gamble, if you prefer), I hope you don't mind me taking the time to highlight this specific part.

I think one thing Bioware has to take into account is that the very mention of the name EA automatically generates a lot of bad blood. So much even that I think that if pre-EA Bioware had made ME3 as it is now, you guys would've received criticism a fair bit milder.

That isn't to say that current criticism is fuelled for the most part by some sort of hatred for EA. The endings are still bad, EA or no EA (and again, I cannot stress enough how bad they are). But their presence has killed a lot of goodwill. When you say that EA supports you, what a lot of people read is that EA gives you money and then decides how you have to spend it. Most of us core fans would have played the ME trilogy through to the end even if it had never been made with additional EA funding, so for most of us there's really the question of what the added value of their presence is.

I know it's not a good idea for Bioware to come out and discuss this concern with us, since you don't generally offer a podium to people who oppose the people you're getting your funding from, but don't sweep our concerns under the rug. Much of this ending debacle comes down to fanbase goodwill as much as to the forgotten lessons of Storytelling 101.

Modifié par Eain, 29 mars 2012 - 11:53 .