@Fenderbaum cheers for the list! So the peak TMS = 7515 so EMS = 3757.5. Well that's the most comprehensive list I've seen so far, still I can't wait for the flood of 'But I easily got > 6000 first time through!' from those who easily confuse the letters T & E
Please explain Jarrett Lee's post
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#302
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 03:42
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lala..
You're welcome, most comprehensive list I've found so far, and pretty much sums everything up really, even without supposed bugs.
You're welcome, most comprehensive list I've found so far, and pretty much sums everything up really, even without supposed bugs.
#303
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:17
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Interesting, no dev reply? Because the situation is really simple: Devs said you won't need to play multiplayer in order to get the "best" "ending". Not true. A lie.
That's false advertising. And no reply?
That's false advertising. And no reply?
#304
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:20
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Jarret Lee's post is likely accurate if the "Clarification DLC" will reveal the true endings to the trilogy which likely require a different amount of EMS to be viable.
I always felt the green bar on your War Assets indicated your progress towards a "ideal" amount of effective assets.
A full bar can be reached with, what, around 3000 EMS?
I always felt the green bar on your War Assets indicated your progress towards a "ideal" amount of effective assets.
A full bar can be reached with, what, around 3000 EMS?
#305
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:22
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Synthesis is the best ending officially. I remember seeing it on twitter. It was the best ending because you needed some amount of points for it according to one of the devs.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:25
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Synthesis is not even good. It's lazy space magic and ethically unacceptable.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:29
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vallore wrote...
Interestingly enough, this suggests why the endings are so disliked by so many players:
The green ending, like the other two, focus on a specific fate of the galaxy, and apparently this was what Bioware felt was important. But, for many players, the good ending focus on the personal fate of Shepard, regardless of getting a red, blue or green ending. Apparently, Bioware got wrong what many players felt to be the most relevant issue: it should have been Shepard’s fate and that of her companions.
IMO that's pretty accurate. But that's what happens with every epic story. The emotional involvement is about the characters, the people and the worlds we know, not about the big concepts.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:34
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Alex_SM wrote...
Synthesis is not even good. It's lazy space magic and ethically unacceptable.
exactly - AND it basicallt tells us we should have joined Saren in ME and called it a day...
#309
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:35
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Three words New Game Plus, thats how you get past 7515 TMS/3758 EMS
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:37
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A little off topic but I will not be happy if the "clarification" for the synthesis ending is some trite nonsense about how now everyone is happy and there were no more wars ever. Thereby cementing the most atrocious ending as the "best."
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:40
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Also, @13commander: No. You are wrong. Absolutely wrong, and are obviously posting here without any real knowledge of the subject. War assets do not carry over in New Game + and the extra assets you get are inconsequential.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:41
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13commander wrote...
Three words New Game Plus, thats how you get past 7515 TMS/3758 EMS
Three words: You are wrong.
EMS points do not carry over.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Tietj!
And I had the whole three word thing going too! 
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:41
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If they just patch the necessary EMS down to like 3000 or so, that would do the trick.
3000 is still a lot of work to get, so it wouldn't be a breeze.
But you wouldn't need to play a second of MP to get it, or buy any future DLC that possibly includes added War Assets.
I really think the MP is great guns, and I'm interested in future DLC, but it should also freely be a choice for the players rather than feeling they have to pay out for online membership and/or DLC to get the ending they want.
3000 is still a lot of work to get, so it wouldn't be a breeze.
But you wouldn't need to play a second of MP to get it, or buy any future DLC that possibly includes added War Assets.
I really think the MP is great guns, and I'm interested in future DLC, but it should also freely be a choice for the players rather than feeling they have to pay out for online membership and/or DLC to get the ending they want.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 04:57
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Has anyone ever calculated what would be possible for a PS3 player to achieve? I know they miss out on a lot of chances to get the same EMS as those who played the entire trilogy on PC and Xbox 360. If it's impossible for us to get over 3,700 and some change, I wonder what the possible number for their EMS is.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:01
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I beat the game on insanity, with a ME1-ME2 all dlc - (saved everyone) into ME3. 100% Paragon. Was only able to attain 3659 (or something around here).
Depending on which NPC you side with in conversations you stumble upon in the game and which decision you make in a few different missions in ME3, you can fall anywhere in the range of 3300-3700.
I was unable to achieve the breath scene. You are required to play MP in order to achieve this.
Depending on which NPC you side with in conversations you stumble upon in the game and which decision you make in a few different missions in ME3, you can fall anywhere in the range of 3300-3700.
I was unable to achieve the breath scene. You are required to play MP in order to achieve this.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:03
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No idea...but a very good question.
But having said that, if you use the comic for ME1 to import into ME2 on the PS3, then you're pretty much not actually too far away, as all major decisions impacting War Asset points have been allocated to you.
Also, even as a standalone game, you can get enough SP War Assets in ME3 alone (I believe) to get 'Biowares best ending'....
But having said that, if you use the comic for ME1 to import into ME2 on the PS3, then you're pretty much not actually too far away, as all major decisions impacting War Asset points have been allocated to you.
Also, even as a standalone game, you can get enough SP War Assets in ME3 alone (I believe) to get 'Biowares best ending'....
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:39
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I feel the need to repeat myself. Synthesis is not considered the best ending. The best ending is considered the one where you have synthesis available. It's a major difference.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:41
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Prismvg wrote...
I feel the need to repeat myself. Synthesis is not considered the best ending. The best ending is considered the one where you have synthesis available. It's a major difference.
I consider the best ending the one where the protagonist lives. It is not possible without MP / iOS apps.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:47
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That's another issue. Just wanted to end the "synthesis best ending" lines.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:48
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Pris...no need to repeat yourself...
Quite frankly, what you think is irrelevent, as far as Bioware is concerned, they have a canon and 'best' ending...
What we think doesn't matter.
Quite frankly, what you think is irrelevent, as far as Bioware is concerned, they have a canon and 'best' ending...
What we think doesn't matter.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:53
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Fenderbaum wrote...
Pris...no need to repeat yourself...
Quite frankly, what you think is irrelevent, as far as Bioware is concerned, they have a canon and 'best' ending...
What we think doesn't matter.
Well seeing you write that down makes me think I did need to repeat myself. What I said is what I interpreted from that BioWare tweet (more exactly Mike Gamble's). So there's no canon best ending. Not yet anyway.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:18
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Fenderbaum wrote...
No idea...but a very good question.
But having said that, if you use the comic for ME1 to import into ME2 on the PS3, then you're pretty much not actually too far away, as all major decisions impacting War Asset points have been allocated to you.
Also, even as a standalone game, you can get enough SP War Assets in ME3 alone (I believe) to get 'Biowares best ending'....
True, but they miss Conrad Verner and the comic skips Feros all together. Do they still get the colonist and the assets from Exogeni? There are a couple of others but I can't think of them atm.
“Bioware's best ending” We have dismissed those claims.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:36
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Prismvg wrote...
Well seeing you write that down makes me think I did need to repeat myself. What I said is what I interpreted from that BioWare tweet (more exactly Mike Gamble's). So there's no canon best ending. Not yet anyway.
You need around 2,800 EMS to get the Synthesis ending. Besides the impossible to get Destroy/Deep Breath ending, it's the one that takes the most EMS points to achieve. Bioware stated you can get enough EMS in SP to get the best ending.
So, by that logic, it is considered their best ending. It would have to be because you can't get Destroy/Deep Breath in SP. Sythesis is the ending behind that one, which would take the most EMS points.
It makes no sense otherwise. What Bioware says and what the facts seem to not be mingling. Fact is, logic dictates by their own standard that Sythesis is the best ending. Of course, they aren't going to come out and say that because they know how mucked up the EMS system is and to admit that >insert ending< is the best, they would then have to answer “Well, then why is Destroy/Deep Breath not achievable in SP? You said all endings would be achievable in SP alone?" Know what I mean? I mean, there be some contradiction up in herr.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:45
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Considering all that synthesis involves, both in theory and execution I don´t get how it can be considered the best ending. It can even be considered the Reapers win ending.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 06:47
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Turning everyone you love into a husk is the "best" ending? HAHAHAHAHA
- I usually don't say things like this, but a lack of dev response isn't looking too good for BioWare. I suspect they re-did the math a went "Oops." I think I saw a Twitter post that hinted that a fix for this is coming. I hope, anyway. For now, I'm tolerating the red ending I'm getting minus the "breathe" moment.
- I usually don't say things like this, but a lack of dev response isn't looking too good for BioWare. I suspect they re-did the math a went "Oops." I think I saw a Twitter post that hinted that a fix for this is coming. I hope, anyway. For now, I'm tolerating the red ending I'm getting minus the "breathe" moment.
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