420 réponses à ce sujet

[TheRealJayDee]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

Turbotanden wrote...

Biggest problem isn't that they promised something different beforehand, stuff might have happened that changed how EMS was calculated or whatever. The biggest problem is that a bioware representative has a sticky post up there that is still lying to the fanbase.

exactly - and the longer it stays up it just further erodes ANY credibility that anyone from Bioware that posts on these forums has

Well, we told them often enough. If the stickied thread isn't gone, changed and/or properly explained by PAX I'm finally done with wanting to like them or trying to reason. Not that it will make any difference. I really start to wish that they'll just stick to their endings and their "artistic" integrity, so they have any kind left... 

[tbb033]

It's quite annoying that that sticky hasn't been removed or edited to accurately reflect the true situation still.

And why's it locked anyway? Because it's demonstrably wrong and they'd rather not take the heat, instead having it shuffled off into these other threads that can drop off the front page quickly? None of the other stickies are locked that way, what gives?

[RocketManSR2]

I've never used the "L" word towards any BioWare staff, and I never will. I'm also not oblivious to the quotes and whatnot from them, either. They're making themselves look really bad. A simple, honest explanation as to why certain things turned out the exact opposite of what was stated would be nice. I have a theory on the source of the problem, but as with many things, I have no proof. EA forced BW to rush ME3 out the door before it was ready and said "Don't worry, anything you couldn't finish can be patched in or sold as extra DLC." That kind of attitude will destroy the gaming industry.

[john-in-france]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

Synthesis is not even good. It's lazy space magic and ethically unacceptable.

exactly - AND it basically tells us we should have joined Saren in ME and called it a day...  

So true.

[Turbotanden]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I've never used the "L" word towards any BioWare staff, and I never will. I'm also not oblivious to the quotes and whatnot from them, either. They're making themselves look really bad. A simple, honest explanation as to why certain things turned out the exact opposite of what was stated would be nice. I have a theory on the source of the problem, but as with many things, I have no proof. EA forced BW to rush ME3 out the door before it was ready and said "Don't worry, anything you couldn't finish can be patched in or sold as extra DLC." That kind of attitude will destroy the gaming industry.

You should check out this link

[john-in-france]

Shelled wrote...

I beat the game on insanity, with a ME1-ME2 all dlc - (saved everyone) into ME3. 100% Paragon. Was only able to attain 3659 (or something around here).

Depending on which NPC you side with in conversations you stumble upon in the game and which decision you make in a few different missions in ME3, you can fall anywhere in the range of 3300-3700.

I was unable to achieve the breath scene. You are required to play MP in order to achieve this.

Me too. My Shepard import was a completionist Paragon, NG+ in both ME1 and ME2, with all DLC. I collected all assets in ME3. I never broke the 3700 EMS threshold. So I have to say that unless there is a bug somewhere, I can't see how the post by Jarrett is correct.

[Keltikone]

john-in-france wrote...

Shelled wrote...

I beat the game on insanity, with a ME1-ME2 all dlc - (saved everyone) into ME3. 100% Paragon. Was only able to attain 3659 (or something around here).

Depending on which NPC you side with in conversations you stumble upon in the game and which decision you make in a few different missions in ME3, you can fall anywhere in the range of 3300-3700.

I was unable to achieve the breath scene. You are required to play MP in order to achieve this.

Me too. My Shepard import was a completionist Paragon, NG+ in both ME1 and ME2, with all DLC. I collected all assets in ME3. I never broke the 3700 EMS threshold. So I have to say that unless there is a bug somewhere, I can't see how the post by Jarrett is correct.

Just because you do not UNDERSTAND the post made by Bioware staff does not mean it is incorrect. You have to allow for artistic integrity and space magic.

Also, Lots of Speculation From Everybody !

[RocketManSR2]

Turbotanden wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I've never used the "L" word towards any BioWare staff, and I never will. I'm also not oblivious to the quotes and whatnot from them, either. They're making themselves look really bad. A simple, honest explanation as to why certain things turned out the exact opposite of what was stated would be nice. I have a theory on the source of the problem, but as with many things, I have no proof. EA forced BW to rush ME3 out the door before it was ready and said "Don't worry, anything you couldn't finish can be patched in or sold as extra DLC." That kind of attitude will destroy the gaming industry.

You should check out this link

*Clears throat* Damn. Like I said, I won't attack BioWare, because EA got BioWare caught in the middle of this firestorm. Most of ME3 shows that BioWare is still a good company, but they needed more time that EA wouldn't give them. All of this crap over the endings has me very worried.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 04 avril 2012 - 09:41 .

[john-in-france]

Keltikone wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

Shelled wrote...

I beat the game on insanity, with a ME1-ME2 all dlc - (saved everyone) into ME3. 100% Paragon. Was only able to attain 3659 (or something around here).

Depending on which NPC you side with in conversations you stumble upon in the game and which decision you make in a few different missions in ME3, you can fall anywhere in the range of 3300-3700.

I was unable to achieve the breath scene. You are required to play MP in order to achieve this.

Me too. My Shepard import was a completionist Paragon, NG+ in both ME1 and ME2, with all DLC. I collected all assets in ME3. I never broke the 3700 EMS threshold. So I have to say that unless there is a bug somewhere, I can't see how the post by Jarrett is correct.

Just because you do not UNDERSTAND the post made by Bioware staff does not mean it is incorrect. You have to allow for artistic integrity and space magic.

Also, Lots of Speculation From Everybody !

Ah, yes, artistic integrity...we have dismissed that! Air bunnies...

[Lalalandia]

Space Magic != Artistic Integrity;
Space Magic = Last Minute Writers Block

Still that doesn't explain why they seem unaware their own game contradicts their statements that everything can be accessed from SP alone.

[Moounas]

Arsenic Touch wrote...

Rache123 wrote...

"best ending" seems to be a matter of perspective......unfortunately mine is a little different to BW's

While the best ending is a matter of perspective, when they said that multiplayer wasn't required to do and see everything single player wise, that isn't a matter of perspective. Because clearly the deep breath isn't available unless you use a third party application or play the multiplayer or alter your save file on the pc, that is the biggest concern for people.

Please ,Bioware, can we have at least an official statement?
This "silence" is really annoying

[SalsaDMA]

Moounas wrote...

Arsenic Touch wrote...

Rache123 wrote...

"best ending" seems to be a matter of perspective......unfortunately mine is a little different to BW's

While the best ending is a matter of perspective, when they said that multiplayer wasn't required to do and see everything single player wise, that isn't a matter of perspective. Because clearly the deep breath isn't available unless you use a third party application or play the multiplayer or alter your save file on the pc, that is the biggest concern for people.

Please ,Bioware, can we have at least an official statement?
This "silence" is really annoying

Stockmarket syndrome

[Lalalandia]

If we were on the stockmarket I could 'short' BW/EA to try and force the issue but as a forum poster all I can do is ask over and over again for an explanation of how JL's post and <4000 EMS in SP can both be true at the same time

[av196vad]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Turbotanden wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I've never used the "L" word towards any BioWare staff, and I never will. I'm also not oblivious to the quotes and whatnot from them, either. They're making themselves look really bad. A simple, honest explanation as to why certain things turned out the exact opposite of what was stated would be nice. I have a theory on the source of the problem, but as with many things, I have no proof. EA forced BW to rush ME3 out the door before it was ready and said "Don't worry, anything you couldn't finish can be patched in or sold as extra DLC." That kind of attitude will destroy the gaming industry.

You should check out this link

*Clears throat* Damn. Like I said, I won't attack BioWare, because EA got BioWare caught in the middle of this firestorm. Most of ME3 shows that BioWare is still a good company, but they needed more time that EA wouldn't give them. All of this crap over the endings has me very worried.

This is sadly 100% true <_<

[Lalalandia]

Now my question is will there be enough EMS with the Extended Cut DLC to actually get all of the content via SP alone

[puppy maclove]

@ OP...simple... its a lie. Just google it.

[Tietj]

I hope there is. If the clarification ends up extending the breath scene, it's even more important that we can access it in SP.

[Arsenic Touch]

Lalalandia wrote...

Now my question is will there be enough EMS with the Extended Cut DLC to actually get all of the content via SP alone

There is no gameplay, just cinematics and an epilogue (probably just a line of text)
So it's safe to assume that no there won't be more assets added by this.

[Lalalandia]

I accept there may be no new assets but that doesn't preclude them altering the EMS values necessary to achieve the extra scene to a lower level (or simply making that a standard part of all scenes <shudder>).

@jlmaclachlan I'm hoping it's not that simple and that perhaps late design changes 'broke' the ability for SP alone to unlock that scene

[Lalalandia]

hmmmm the silence is still deafening, at this rate the question posed by so many will be answered sometime around the $5 Steam sale in 2015

[Krogangreetings]

gah! wasn't addressed at Pax

[Ravennus]

Still not possible. PM Thomas Abrams, as he has told us we can actually get 5000 EMS (10000+ war assets) in Single Player without Multiplayer or other various apps.

I think we are about 2500 war assets short, at least....

[Siduri]

This is to me the most important issue that's been buried in the firestorm over the endings.

We're not allowed to use the word "lie," fine. But I don't see how the official statements can be called truthful.

If this is all just a bug, they need to acknowledge it and tell us they're working on it.

Modifié par Siduri, 06 avril 2012 - 10:26 .

[Ravennus]

Fresh from the @MassEffect Twitter:

Jason Potter ‏ @TheJasonPotter
@masseffect any more info on 4000 or 5000 ems no being possible for single player only people?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@thejasonpotter We've been told by fans who play only SP that they've achieved that score! Did you do all planet scanning and side missions?

[TheRealJayDee]

Yeah, well, I'm through with this now. The stickied thread is up there for a month now, and they have proven to be either too incompetent or too delusional to react to this - fine! Bioware has successfully convinced me they don't give a **** and that it's not worth for me to give a **** either, so for now I'm just going to advise all my friends to stay the hell away from this game and Bioware.

It's funny how besides my massive disappointment with DA2 and certain aspects of ME3 it's really for a good part the abysmal PR that is driving me away from this company. I actually can't remember much anything about ME3 right now that I'd consider handled well in terms of communication. Shame...

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 07 avril 2012 - 12:01 .