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Tietj wrote...

@Tirigon I think his logic is that if Shepard can survive, then he probably does. Obviously, he can survive the red ending, so there's no reason he wouldn't survive every time, particularly because there really isn't anything different about having a higher EMS


If so, that is faulty logic however. And EMS makes a huuuge difference - below 1750, for example, the Destroy ending pulverizes the entire planet Earth......

Of course you are right that this makes no f*cking sense and shouldnt be like that. But yet it is.

We cant argue by "should or shouldnt be" because, frankly, the entire ending as well as the Crucible shouldnt be like they are.

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It is impossible to get 4000 EMS without playing multi-player. To get the "best" ending of ME3, you need 4000 EMS. Thus, when you say that you don't need to play multi-player to get the "best" ending of ME3, you are lying.

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Single player DLC.


I've got that same feeling.

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It is not possible to get the best end with out multiplayer. Flat out not possible. They really need to take that sticky down.

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They won't do anything. He'll show up here, throw a sound bite, and type LOCKDOWN!

The simple thing to do would be explain how one gets that particular extra scene without multiplayer.

The reason they don't say how, is because it's NOT POSSIBLE.

Multiplayer is the DRM handed down by their corporate master, EA. If you HAVE to MP to get that scene, wham, they assume that'll cut down on piracy. Who cares what happens in a couple years when the servers are dead/empty/shut down, and you can't get that anymore? Not EA!


Thing is it doesn't really affect pirates if you can just edit it in a game file to give yourself higher EMS.

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Excellent point

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lawp79 wrote...

This is indeed poor show bioware.

Definitely.

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thedistortedchild wrote...

They really need to take that sticky down.


It does not look like this is an option they are considering. I suppose they would prefer to lock this thread instead, if it gets too loud.

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Kub666 wrote...

thedistortedchild wrote...

They really need to take that sticky down.


It does not look like this is an option they are considering. I suppose they would prefer to lock this thread instead, if it gets too loud.


That would more than likely be the response. If they add dlc that gives you more war assets then I could see the whole "you don't need multiplayer for the best ending". As it stands now however there is no such dlc so at this point the only way to get the best ending would be to play multiplayer. They should really just say that this was either taking into account future dlc which is basically guaranteed and would be understandable in that context, or that they made a mistake when they posted it.

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Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.

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great question OP - do not expect an answer - that would require HONEST open communication

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HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


Plenty of people have made the same claim, with no evidence to back it up. Please post a picture. Otherwise, I won't believe it. Or you could have just confused EMS with TMS, which many have done.

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HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


i think mine was about the same but playing multiplayer a lot helped. This would make the statement they said more accurate then.

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HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


This should be a drinking game. lol

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KayB1991 wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


i think mine was about the same but playing multiplayer a lot helped. This would make the statement they said more accurate then.


Yeah, except that's missing the entire point of this thread and countless others. All we want is for someone to give us explicit examples to prove it's possible to get 4000 EMS without multiplayer. We know multiplayer helps. Everyone knows multiplayer helps.

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ConVito wrote...

KayB1991 wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


i think mine was about the same but playing multiplayer a lot helped. This would make the statement they said more accurate then.


Yeah, except that's missing the entire point of this thread and countless others. All we want is for someone to give us explicit examples to prove it's possible to get 4000 EMS without multiplayer. We know multiplayer helps. Everyone knows multiplayer helps.


I know, I'm just saying that if playing from an imprted game helps to get a high enough EMS for the best ending then that would explain it. Unfortunately they never stated this nor do we really know if this is what they meant.

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HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


Pics or didn't happen.

Seriously, guys, this score is so elusive without MP... just prove it with some solid evidence, and stop making claims that almost nobody believes without having pics or something tangible to back it up.

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


Pics or didn't happen.

Seriously, guys, this score is so elusive without MP... just prove it with some solid evidence, and stop making claims that almost nobody believes without having pics or something tangible to back it up.


exactly

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KayB1991 wrote...

ConVito wrote...

KayB1991 wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


i think mine was about the same but playing multiplayer a lot helped. This would make the statement they said more accurate then.


Yeah, except that's missing the entire point of this thread and countless others. All we want is for someone to give us explicit examples to prove it's possible to get 4000 EMS without multiplayer. We know multiplayer helps. Everyone knows multiplayer helps.


I know, I'm just saying that if playing from an imprted game helps to get a high enough EMS for the best ending then that would explain it. Unfortunately they never stated this nor do we really know if this is what they meant.


It's not true. If it was, at least someone would have figured it out and POSTED A ****ING PICTURE by now.

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The max I've gotten is;
TMS: 6661
RR: %50
EMS: 3330

NO multiplayer. didnt touch it

Modifié par Nepp, 30 mars 2012 - 01:17 .


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KayB1991 wrote...

ConVito wrote...

KayB1991 wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


i think mine was about the same but playing multiplayer a lot helped. This would make the statement they said more accurate then.


Yeah, except that's missing the entire point of this thread and countless others. All we want is for someone to give us explicit examples to prove it's possible to get 4000 EMS without multiplayer. We know multiplayer helps. Everyone knows multiplayer helps.


I know, I'm just saying that if playing from an imprted game helps to get a high enough EMS for the best ending then that would explain it. Unfortunately they never stated this nor do we really know if this is what they meant.

An ME1/ME2 save does give you more points, but it's still not enough to get 4,000 EMS without multiplayer.  The data has been mined, and there are not 8,000 assets available in the game regardless of whether you import ME1/ME2 save or not.

With completionist saves from ME1 & ME2 imported and everything done in ME3 (I have the players guide so, yes everything done), I was able to get 3,607 EMS before heading to London.

Modifié par tishyw, 30 mars 2012 - 01:23 .


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ConVito wrote...

KayB1991 wrote...

ConVito wrote...

KayB1991 wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


i think mine was about the same but playing multiplayer a lot helped. This would make the statement they said more accurate then.


Yeah, except that's missing the entire point of this thread and countless others. All we want is for someone to give us explicit examples to prove it's possible to get 4000 EMS without multiplayer. We know multiplayer helps. Everyone knows multiplayer helps.


I know, I'm just saying that if playing from an imprted game helps to get a high enough EMS for the best ending then that would explain it. Unfortunately they never stated this nor do we really know if this is what they meant.


It's not true. If it was, at least someone would have figured it out and POSTED A ****ING PICTURE by now.


Yea you're right, I ended up checking 3 of my characters and none were close to that with a 50% drop. Now I have to see a pic to remotely believe its possible. Seriously doubt we'll get one and if we do it'll more than likely be photoshopped

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KBomb wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


This should be a drinking game. lol

Indeed. Can't remember who it was that suggested we take shots of alcohol everytime someone lies about this. You told him the amount of alcohol poisoning would be through the roof.

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tishyw wrote...

KayB1991 wrote...

ConVito wrote...

KayB1991 wrote...

HOUSE MDD wrote...

Ive gotten 4125 with 50% readyness. ive imported a me1-me2 save max lvl with all normandy upgrades minerals etc.


i think mine was about the same but playing multiplayer a lot helped. This would make the statement they said more accurate then.


Yeah, except that's missing the entire point of this thread and countless others. All we want is for someone to give us explicit examples to prove it's possible to get 4000 EMS without multiplayer. We know multiplayer helps. Everyone knows multiplayer helps.


I know, I'm just saying that if playing from an imprted game helps to get a high enough EMS for the best ending then that would explain it. Unfortunately they never stated this nor do we really know if this is what they meant.

An ME1/ME2 save does give you more points, but it's still not enough to get 4,000 EMS without multiplayer.  The data has been mined, and there are not 8,000 assets available in the game regardless of whether you import ME1/ME2 save or not.

With completionist saves from ME1 & ME2 imported and everything done in ME3 (I have the players guide so, yes everything done), I was able to get 3,607 EMS before heading to London.


Must have missed the post about that, glad to know there isn't anything I missed though. Also I ended up checking mine and the numbers for all of my imports are closer to yours. So basically they are content with having inaccurate info stickied when the numbers in their own game prove them wrong, well that is very troubling to say the least.

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They forgot to mention they are selling the rest of the single player as DLC. $20 a pop.

Then you can get 4000+ EMS without MP.