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Tietj

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I was the one who suggested the drinking game! Anyway, the person who claimed to have just over 4000 may be telling the truth. There exists a somewhat rare bug that doubles the amount of some war assets. So some people legitimately can get over 4000 but most of us can't.

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The Devs are not lying...technically.

They said that you don't have to do multi player to get enough readiness for the best ending, and that's true. You can get more assets and readiness from the IOS game and the datapad fleet assignment game. Neither of those are multiplayer so they are technically telling the truth.

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Wow, that "lock" thing is freaking terrible on Bioware's behalf.

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Ulmo11 wrote...

The Devs are not lying...technically.

They said that you don't have to do multi player to get enough readiness for the best ending, and that's true. You can get more assets and readiness from the IOS game and the datapad fleet assignment game. Neither of those are multiplayer so they are technically telling the truth.


That would mean that they neglected to tell you that you have to pay them extra money on top of the game in order to get the best ending,  which is just as bad,  if not worse.

At this point,  I'd venture the firestorm over the endings is a blessing,  that's easier to defend against than charging extra to get the best ending.

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jreezy wrote...

Indeed. Can't remember who it was that suggested we take shots of alcohol everytime someone lies about this. You told him the amount of alcohol poisoning would be through the roof.


 
Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Image IPBYou just saved my life, jreezy. I am in your debt!

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Bioware's way of addressing this is insulting.

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Gatt9 wrote...

Ulmo11 wrote...

The Devs are not lying...technically.

They said that you don't have to do multi player to get enough readiness for the best ending, and that's true. You can get more assets and readiness from the IOS game and the datapad fleet assignment game. Neither of those are multiplayer so they are technically telling the truth.


That would mean that they neglected to tell you that you have to pay them extra money on top of the game in order to get the best ending,  which is just as bad,  if not worse.

At this point,  I'd venture the firestorm over the endings is a blessing,  that's easier to defend against than charging extra to get the best ending.


I'm not saying I like the fact that you have to do these things, I agree that it's dumb. But just to be fair, the datapad app is free, if you have an iphone or ipad.

I was just answering the OP and trying to "explain how Jarrett Lee's post is accurate." What I can't do, though, is explain how forcing you to do either the IOS game, the datapad app, or MP in order to get to 4k EMS is a good idea.

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Ulmo11 wrote...

I'm not saying I like the fact that you have to do these things, I agree that it's dumb. But just to be fair, the datapad app is free, if you have an iphone or ipad.

I was just answering the OP and trying to "explain how Jarrett Lee's post is accurate." What I can't do, though, is explain how forcing you to do either the IOS game, the datapad app, or MP in order to get to 4k EMS is a good idea.


 
It's not to be fair, though. Not everyone has an iphone or an ipad. Just as some don't have access to MP. It's surprising how many don't have gold for XBL or even internet access. I see MP on the same scale as the app. No difference, imo.


I certainly agree with you on every other point.

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Bump. I'd really like to get an answer for this.

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Bioware is too embarrassed.

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That can't really be the case, though. A simple answer and, if necessary, an easy patch would placate those of us complaining. It's not like the ending fiasco which would require a lot of time and resources.

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Gatt9 wrote...

Ulmo11 wrote...

The Devs are not lying...technically.

They said that you don't have to do multi player to get enough readiness for the best ending, and that's true. You can get more assets and readiness from the IOS game and the datapad fleet assignment game. Neither of those are multiplayer so they are technically telling the truth.


That would mean that they neglected to tell you that you have to pay them extra money on top of the game in order to get the best ending,  which is just as bad,  if not worse.

At this point,  I'd venture the firestorm over the endings is a blessing,  that's easier to defend against than charging extra to get the best ending.


The iOS game is free, unless  by pay extra money you mean buying an iOS device...which would be a crappy requisite. Without the iOS game, though, MP would be required.

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I have no doubt there'll be DLC with additional war assets, possibly enough to push you over the 4k threshold with 50% readiness. The same thing basically happened with ME2 and not having enough funds for everything, or to hit the cap in one playthrough. All of a sudden it was possible.

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Erm.. he's marketing.

He does not speak the truth, he says what most of us would like to hear.

Just like all other marketing people.

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The data pad galaxy at war is unbelievably boring and there is also a problem with it syncing.

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You know what they said could be true, if the destroy ending is the best ending and IT is true. Just saying. :D

Modifié par Talon2000uk, 30 mars 2012 - 07:01 .


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TheRealJayDee wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

It baffles me why Bioware hasn't addressed this yet. Either confirm or deny but say SOMETHING.



Chris Priestly wrote...

We are not lying and will not allow such accusations here.


LOCKDOWN!


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Yo dawg, I hear you like lying about lying...

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Ulmo11 wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

Ulmo11 wrote...

The Devs are not lying...technically.

They said that you don't have to do multi player to get enough readiness for the best ending, and that's true. You can get more assets and readiness from the IOS game and the datapad fleet assignment game. Neither of those are multiplayer so they are technically telling the truth.


That would mean that they neglected to tell you that you have to pay them extra money on top of the game in order to get the best ending,  which is just as bad,  if not worse.

At this point,  I'd venture the firestorm over the endings is a blessing,  that's easier to defend against than charging extra to get the best ending.


I'm not saying I like the fact that you have to do these things, I agree that it's dumb. But just to be fair, the datapad app is free, if you have an iphone or ipad.

I was just answering the OP and trying to "explain how Jarrett Lee's post is accurate." What I can't do, though, is explain how forcing you to do either the IOS game, the datapad app, or MP in order to get to 4k EMS is a good idea.


I don't have an iphone or ipad, and I don't like playing multiplayer. So looks like I won't be able to get the 4000EMS. Unless some lovely dev from Bioware could let me know how?

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Gtacatalina wrote...

I don't have an iphone or ipad, and I don't like playing multiplayer. So looks like I won't be able to get the 4000EMS. Unless some lovely dev from Bioware could let me know how?

Some lovely BioWare dev won't let you know how because it's not possible.

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Ulmo11 wrote...

The Devs are not lying...technically.

They said that you don't have to do multi player to get enough readiness for the best ending, and that's true. You can get more assets and readiness from the IOS game and the datapad fleet assignment game. Neither of those are multiplayer so they are technically telling the truth.


No, sorry, they are not telling the truth. This post was made before iOS apps were available, and even if they were, it still implies that you can get best ending playing SP alone. It is clearly misleading.

I don't really have time to try to get through PR bull**** like this. You want to communicate something - you do it in a clear and coherent way. You want to misinform people but still be able to say "but what I really meant was..." - you do it the way Jarrett did. 

The longer it takes and the more lockdowns are happening, the more disrespectful it is for the paying consumers. But hey, if this is the way they want to play this - I'm fine, it's their playground after all, their rules. Just don't expect your customers to be happy about being fed incorrect information.

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^ Exactly. It doesn't matter how many threads they lock, delete or just ignore. This isn't going away for them, and so long as they don't apologise/clarify on this topic it exposes them for what they are. Faith is dwindling in this company from even their most prominent supporters, and being stubborn about it is only going to hurt them in the end.

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TheNevincer wrote...

^ Exactly. It doesn't matter how many threads they lock, delete or just ignore. This isn't going away for them, and so long as they don't apologise/clarify on this topic it exposes them for what they are. Faith is dwindling in this company from even their most prominent supporters, and being stubborn about it is only going to hurt them in the end.


Yup.  There are so many issues with this game atm its laughable.   Import face issues, multiplayer store stealing credits, not rewarding people, insufficient was assets in SP etc....

They prolly working on DLC instead of fixing the game.

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I guess in the end it comes down to: "You are able to get 4000 ems without Multiplayer, we just didn't mention you would have to buy all the DLC we'll release to do so."

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Ulmo11 wrote...

The Devs are not lying...technically.

They said that you don't have to do multi player to get enough readiness for the best ending, and that's true. You can get more assets and readiness from the IOS game and the datapad fleet assignment game. Neither of those are multiplayer so they are technically telling the truth.


BioWare's face when arriving at this thought:

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Would also like to hear some answers, beats tomb-like silence anyways